Re: [PSES] hot laptop

2018-08-16 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
No that you mention it I think I remember that story too. -Dave From: Doug Smith [mailto:d...@emcesd.com] Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 7:44 PM To: Nyffenegger, Dave; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] hot laptop Hi Everyone, This "hot laptop" problem has been going on for many

Re: [PSES] hot laptop

2018-08-16 Thread Doug Smith
Hi Everyone, This "hot laptop" problem has been going on for many years now. I remember a story in the tech mags out of Silicon Valley about Apple laptops burning, really leaving an injury, on the order of ten years ago. Apple said the machines were not intended to be used on one's

Re: [PSES] hot laptop

2018-08-16 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
We agree I need a new laptop due to this issue alone. It’s not hot enough that it can’t be moved away quickly enough to prevent a permanent burn. But it is hot enough to leave sun-burn like splotches on skin if left to long over a thin layer of clothing. Hot enough to discolor some other

Re: [PSES] CB Certificate For Samsung Tablet - Need Contact

2018-08-16 Thread Carl Newton
Erick, I've used it before but I completely overlooked the IECEE site. This is a big help.  At least I now know that the safety report exists in CB format as well as report number and NCB.  Now it's a matter of getting them into my inbox.  A big step in the right direction. We've made some

Re: [PSES] hot laptop

2018-08-16 Thread Richard Nute
Its not the temperature, but the thermal energy that is transferred to a body part. Consider aluminum foil versus cast aluminum at the same temperature, say 140 F. The foil won’t burn you, but the cast aluminum sure will! The thermal resistance of plastic will give you the time to

Re: [PSES] hot laptop

2018-08-16 Thread IBM Ken
Aren't we supposed to call them "notebook" computers now, so it can be claimed they're not intended for use on a lap? For what it's worth, I've measured up to 140F on the surface of my computer... On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 2:47 PM, Nyffenegger, Dave < dave.nyffeneg...@bhemail.com> wrote: > That’s

[PSES] Looking for RF/EMC Engineer

2018-08-16 Thread Stephen Whalen
Greeting all,SGS North America is looking for RF/EMC Engineer in Suwanee Georgia. Please apply using the link below. Regards,Stephen Whalen Link is  Test Engineer - RF/EMC - Suwanee, GA in United States, Georgia, Suwanee | | | | || | | | | | Test Engineer - RF/EMC -

Re: [PSES] hot laptop

2018-08-16 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
That’s in the plan. This one slows down apparently when it’s not too busy. If it’s just the OS running with no programs it’s cool as can be. But if I wanted a laptop to only do one thing at a time I’d use MS-DOS. With several programs running and multiple browsers with multiple windows it

[PSES] hot laptop

2018-08-16 Thread Richard Nute
Get a new laptop. Intel devices now slow down if they get too hot. My new laptop barely gets warm. Rich From: Nyffenegger, Dave Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 7:35 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] CB Certificate For Samsung Tablet - Need Contact I’d like

Re: [PSES] CB Certificate For Samsung Tablet - Need Contact

2018-08-16 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
I’d like to ask the same question of my “name brand” laptop with the same circumstances. The CPU runs just under 100 degrees F according to Intel diagnostics and the case bottom runs hot enough it can’t actually sit on a lap. -Dave From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sent:

Re: [PSES] CB Certificate For Samsung Tablet - Need Contact

2018-08-16 Thread Erick Latvala
Hello Carl, There appears to be a CB Test Report and Test Certificate for this tablet. You can check by going to the following link and search in the “Free Text” box for SM-T820. http://certificates.iecee.org/ods/cb_hm.xsp This doesn’t give you the Certificate, but should confirm one exists

Re: [PSES] CB Certificate For Samsung Tablet - Need Contact

2018-08-16 Thread Jim Hulbert
I’ve had a similar situation where we use a tablet as a product’s user interface module. Our NRTL required the tablet to have an NRTL listing. I think that’s because there are specific safety testing requirements not just for the battery but for its charge/discharge circuits and the tablet

Re: [PSES] CB Certificate For Samsung Tablet - Need Contact

2018-08-16 Thread Carl Newton
Brian, Li batteries and battery packs have conditions of acceptability that must be confirmed within the end-use application.  That is the hook in this application.  Our NRTL understandably must confirm this.   I consider our NRTL's willingness to accept the CB Cert and Report rather

Re: [PSES] CB Certificate For Samsung Tablet - Need Contact

2018-08-16 Thread Charlie Blackham
Carl Information for a suitable contact in the public domain could be found from: * Signatory on the EU DoC https://www.samsung.com/mobile_doc/ * Technical contact and/or applicant for the FCC ID, https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm Regards Charlie Charlie

Re: [PSES] CB Certificate For Samsung Tablet - Need Contact

2018-08-16 Thread Kunde, Brian
The power supply is NRTL certified and the battery is NRTL certified. The rest of the tablet I assume is limited energy circuit. Does the tablet require NRTL certification? Brian Kunde Manager • Compliance Engineering LECO Corp • Compliance Testing Center From: Carl Newton

Re: [PSES] CB Certificate For Samsung Tablet - Need Contact

2018-08-16 Thread John Woodgate
I'll pass you request to someone in Samsung UK, but it may not help. John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk Rayleigh, Essex UK On 2018-08-16 13:43, Carl Newton wrote: Group, I'm working with a company that manufacturers exercise equipment. They use a

[PSES] CB Certificate For Samsung Tablet - Need Contact

2018-08-16 Thread Carl Newton
Group, I'm working with a company that manufacturers exercise equipment. They use a Samsung S3 tablet model SM-T820 as a user interface console.  The machine is being investigated at a USA NRTL for North American marks and they need a safety mark or report to validate the tablet.  The tablet