Re: [PSES] Trusted resources for RoHS/Reach

[Monrad Monsen]

Hi Chaz,

John Woodgate and Lauren Crane provided some good links, but you may be wanting 
to do some real research on RoHS and need additional information.  For example, 
the RoHS Directive 2011/65/EU has been amended to restrict ten substances 
instead of the original six now.  Reading the links provided earlier would not 
catch that.  Also, there are some guidance documents released that would help 
you on cable labeling requirements, etc.  My list below is definitely not 
all-inclusive, but it will at least get you closer to the information you need 
in researching the requirements.

 

RoHS Directive 2011/65/EU:  
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:32011L0065 

 

Delegated Directive (EU) 2015/863: 
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?qid=1565389428384=CELEX:32015L0863
 This amendment adds the four restricted phthalates which became mandatory on 
22 July 2019.

 

Europe attempt to give a plain language update on the RoHS Directive updates: 
https://ec.europa.eu/environment/waste/rohs_eee/index_en.htm  This page has a 
link to the below link on the status of exemptions and the expirations.

https://ec.europa.eu/environment/waste/rohs_eee/adaptation_en.htm The key 
sentence on this page for me is: "A table providing an overview of Annex III 
and IV exemptions, including their validity status and submitted exemption 
requests, is available HYPERLINK 
"https://ec.europa.eu/environment/waste/rohs_eee/pdf/Exemptions%20list%20-%20validity%20and%20rolling%20plan_7Feb%2019_public.xlsx"here.;
 This gives a spreadsheet with the current expiration dates.  This spreadsheet 
is the best quick reference I have seen from the EU on the exemptions.

 

Harmonized Standards for RoHS Directive 2011/65/EU: 
https://ec.europa.eu/growth/single-market/european-standards/harmonised-standards/restriction-of-hazardous-substances_en
 

 

RoHS 2 FAQ:  https://ec.europa.eu/environment/waste/rohs_eee/pdf/faq.pdf  Very 
helpful!!!

 

All inclusive search for delegated directives amending the RoHS directive: 
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/search.html?textScope1=ti=ti=1565389857331_LAW_SUMMARY=false_DOM=ALL=advanced=proposal_LAW_JURE_SUMMARY=false=en=Directive%202011/65/EU_INIT=ALL_ALL_SUBDOM=ALL_ALL
  This includes amendments to descriptions of exemptions and expiration dates 
for exemptions.  126 entries to read. Sorry. Read these only as a last resort 
or you have difficulty sleeping at night.

 

Hope this helps.


Monrad

 

From: Grasso, Charles [mailto:charles.gra...@dish.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 2:03 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] Trusted resources for RoHS/Reach

 

Hello experts,

 

I am (trying!) to put together a list of trusted resources that cover the 
various 
the RoHS and REACH standards in the EU. Regretfully a search on Google provides 
an
overabundance of material carrying with it all the concerns of the validity of 
the
information.

 

Would someone please point me to a rock-solid source of information?

 

Thanks!

 

Charles Grasso 

W: 303-706-5467

 

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Re: [PSES] Conducted emissions AMN/AAN layout

[John Woodgate]

I'm afraid that this is what happens when people (mostly in National 
Committees) accept circulated documents 'because the WG members are 
bound to have done a good job', without actually assuming the opposite 
and go looking for problems. It's all to easy to do.


I /hope I'm wrong in this case/ and someone on CISPR/I WG1 will soon 
explain all, but is certainly seems that, even if the standard is in 
fact totally correct and practicable, it needs clarification.


You say CISPR 32:2012, but the current edition is 2015: 
https://webstore.iec.ch/searchform=CISPR%2032 There were a lot of 
proposals for change when the 2012 edition was published.



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On 2019-08-09 20:17, Andrew Perry wrote:

My friends,

I am preparing to drill new threaded holes in our chamber floor, where 
we will perform our CISPR32 (2012) conducted emissions tests.  Looking 
at Table D.1 and figure D.2, I am trying to figure out where to place 
our two AMNs and single AAN to meet all of the distance and length 
requirements.


Our setups will look very much like figure D.2, but shape and number 
of AE will vary (naturally).  What boggles my mind is how to have 
fixed positions for the AMNs and AAN (I don't want to turn my chamber 
floor into Swiss cheese), and avoid having to rearrange the EUT on the 
test table when switching from AC port measurement to let's say, 
network port measurement. Figure D.2 seems to suggest that its layout 
permits exactly what I'm looking for.  However, reading the note of 
the figure (no longer a note in version 2015, by the way) and looking 
at the distance requirements in table D.1, I don't understand how 
figure D.2 permits EUTs to become AEs, without rearrangement.


For example, let's say you are measuring the middle EUT using the AAN, 
then how can the PSU at the left be >= 0.8m from the active AAN?  The 
note says that if the device is AE, then it shall be at a >= 0.8 m 
distance.  So this PSU now being AE, shouldn't it be at more than 0.8 
m from the AAN?  Is the figure misleading in indicating that each 
device can be EUT or AE at its current position?  Keep in mind that 
Table D.1 also states that all cables must be kept at 0.4 m from the 
vertical plane.  CISPR22 had figures that showed AMNs all over the 
place, even bonded to the vertical plane.  CISPR32 now shows all 
AMN/AAN at the 40 cm line.  D.2.2 text still allows AMN/AAN to be 
bonded to the vertical plane, but then how do you maintain the 40 cm 
distance for the cables if their endpoint is essentially at a few 
centimeters from the plane?


Another question is about this "new" insulation pad underneath the 
table.  There is a maximum thickness of 0.15m specified for this 
insulation, but no minimum.  Are the cable outer sleeves enough?  Is a 
coat of enamel paint on a metal turntable enough?  I understand that 
bare wires shouldn't make contact with ground if they're not supposed 
to, but is an insulation pad really necessary when cables are not bare?


Please let me know what your thoughts are, there must be something I'm 
not seeing here.


AP
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[PSES] Conducted emissions AMN/AAN layout

[Andrew Perry]

My friends,

I am preparing to drill new threaded holes in our chamber floor, where we
will perform our CISPR32 (2012) conducted emissions tests.  Looking at
Table D.1 and figure D.2, I am trying to figure out where to place our two
AMNs and single AAN to meet all of the distance and length requirements.

Our setups will look very much like figure D.2, but shape and number of AE
will vary (naturally).  What boggles my mind is how to have fixed positions
for the AMNs and AAN (I don't want to turn my chamber floor into Swiss
cheese), and avoid having to rearrange the EUT on the test table when
switching from AC port measurement to let's say, network port measurement.
Figure D.2 seems to suggest that its layout permits exactly what I'm
looking for.  However, reading the note of the figure (no longer a note in
version 2015, by the way) and looking at the distance requirements in table
D.1, I don't understand how figure D.2 permits EUTs to become AEs, without
rearrangement.

For example, let's say you are measuring the middle EUT using the AAN, then
how can the PSU at the left be >= 0.8m from the active AAN?  The note says
that if the device is AE, then it shall be at a >= 0.8 m distance.  So this
PSU now being AE, shouldn't it be at more than 0.8 m from the AAN?  Is the
figure misleading in indicating that each device can be EUT or AE at its
current position?  Keep in mind that Table D.1 also states that all cables
must be kept at 0.4 m from the vertical plane.  CISPR22 had figures that
showed AMNs all over the place, even bonded to the vertical plane.  CISPR32
now shows all AMN/AAN at the 40 cm line.  D.2.2 text still allows AMN/AAN
to be bonded to the vertical plane, but then how do you maintain the 40 cm
distance for the cables if their endpoint is essentially at a few
centimeters from the plane?

Another question is about this "new" insulation pad underneath the table.
There is a maximum thickness of 0.15m specified for this insulation, but no
minimum.  Are the cable outer sleeves enough?  Is a coat of enamel paint on
a metal turntable enough?  I understand that bare wires shouldn't make
contact with ground if they're not supposed to, but is an insulation pad
really necessary when cables are not bare?

Please let me know what your thoughts are, there must be something I'm not
seeing here.

AP

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