Re: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] [PSES] Electrical safety testing US and Canada ... Mandatory ?

2020-05-25 Thread Pete Perkins
Amund,Ted does a nice job of summarizing the US situation with regard to the legality of the NRTL certification for products installed during construction, including remodeling, which is inspected in the US. There is also the issue for retail products here in the

[PSES] correct URLs for Canada product certification rules

2020-05-25 Thread Richard Nute
In my earlier message, the URLs got split by my e-mail program. Here are the un-split URLs: https://canada.ul.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2018/05/Acceptance-of-Elec trical-Products-in-Canada-1.pdf http://www.scc.ca/en/accreditation/product-process-and-service-certification /directory-of-acc

Re: [PSES] Low power FM or Am transmitter

2020-05-25 Thread IBM Ken
Part 15 provides for AM Broadcast band 'micropower' transmissions as well, though it uses final input power and antenna size restriction (as opposed to field strength, as in FM BCB). There are different requirements for carrier-current and 'leaky coax' installations, and IIRC, schools have differe

Re: [PSES] Low power FM or Am transmitter

2020-05-25 Thread Ken Wyatt
Dieter, the “Part 15” FM transmitters are OK to use and generally have a range of 200 feet, or so. Legally, they must have a fixed antenna, so mounting one up high is problematic. There are many illegally-sold and imported higher-power (up to 25W, or more) FM transmitters sold on Amazon and oth

[PSES] Low power FM or Am transmitter

2020-05-25 Thread Paasche, Dieter
Hi group, Can I operate an AM or FM very low power transmitter without a license and or authorization? I mean that the transmitting power would be below 15.209. Sincerely, Dieter Paasche - This message is from the IEEE Product Sa

Re: [PSES] Electrical safety testing US and Canada ... Mandatory ?

2020-05-25 Thread Douglas Nix
Hi Amund, Here in Canada an electrical safety certification mark or a field evaluation law is required to legally operate electrical equipment. Some electricians here won’t connect power to a panel or piece of equipment that doesn’t bear a recognized Canadian mark. Others will connect the equip

Re: [PSES] Electrical safety testing US and Canada ... Mandatory ?

2020-05-25 Thread Richard Nute
Hi Amund: In the USA, the federal government workplace rules and most other jurisdictions require certification by a NRTL. Most certification houses are NRTL. Here is the current list of NRTLs: https://www.osha.gov/dts/otpca/nrtl/nrtllist.html All NRTLs are "approved" for the standards specifi

Re: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] [PSES] Electrical safety testing US and Canada ... Mandatory ?

2020-05-25 Thread Ted Eckert
Hello Amund, This is an oversimplification, but here is how I understand the laws and regulations of the United States. I'll leave the discussion of Canadian regulations to somebody who better knows those rules. The Occupational Safety & Health Administration (OSHA) is a division of the U.

[PSES] Electrical safety testing US and Canada ... Mandatory ?

2020-05-25 Thread Amund Westin
Sorry for bringing up this issue again, but I have lost my history for all previous IEEE mails ... I know (assume ...) that UL, CSA, FM and others are voluntary for showing compliance. But that is actually required by law in US and C? Thanks! Best regards Amund - -