Re: [PSES] UL Standards - Old School Spacings

2022-01-25 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
Doug -- Joe Musso, staff engineer at UL, might be worth contacting. About 10 years ago I was is a similar position with what I considered an outdated spacings table in UL 1450. Joe was the staff engineer supporting 1450 at the time. What Joe suggested, and what ended up working out well, was

Re: [PSES] UL Standards - Old School Spacings

2022-01-25 Thread Douglas E Powell
Hi Rich, Yes, I obtained a copy of Mr. Stimper's book in 1995 and after learning it is no longer published in English, I obtained permission from him to use it in my own work; with proper attribution. This book is an excellent the resource. I first learned my compliance with IEC, DIN-VDE and EN

Re: [PSES] UL Standards - Old School Spacings

2022-01-25 Thread Richard Nute
Hi Doug: I don’t have any history. But I do have data for how air behaves as an insulator and protection methods for creepage distances. The data for air insulation as a function of distance (2000 meters altitude) and field shape was given in IEC 664, first edition, 1980. The

Re: [PSES] UL Standards - Old School Spacings

2022-01-25 Thread Douglas E Powell
Sorry all, I knew the listserv would not support images, but since it regularly sends me HTML email, I had thought it would allow tables in the body of the email . Hopefully you'll still get the gist of the email. ~Doug On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 11:26 AM Douglas E Powell wrote: > All, > > I'm

[PSES] UL Standards - Old School Spacings

2022-01-25 Thread Douglas E Powell
All, I'm interested in learning the history behind what I call old school spacings found in UL standards. In recent years there has been considerable progress toward harmonizing UL spacings to international standards, derived from IEC 60664-x. However, still today I encounter many UL standards

Re: [PSES] Notice about LVD compliance in a DoC for machinery?

2022-01-25 Thread scott . xe
Regarding your second statement, did you mean EMF that is part of LVD? EMC and LVD are two independent directives. Regards, Scott -Original Message- From: Paasche, Dieter Sent: Tuesday, 25 January 2022 3:45 am To: 'scott...@gmail.com' ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: