Re: [PSES] Multiple electrical power sources

2023-04-06 Thread Kevin Robinson
You might want to take a look at UL/IEC/EN 60950-1 which I know definitely has requirements for multiple power sources. 62368 may have guidance as well Get Outlook for iOS From: Richard Nute Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 8:15:02 PM To:

Re: [PSES] Maintaining UL Label when Modifying Electrical Enclosures in the Field

2023-03-17 Thread Kevin Robinson
Ronan, OSHA published a Safety and Health Information Bulletin on this topic. It is available here https://www.osha.gov/sites/default/files/publications/shib021610.pdf Get Outlook for iOS From: Ronan Shanley

Re: [PSES] To NRTL or not NRTL, that is the question

2022-09-27 Thread Kevin Robinson
to the difference between “Kleenex” and “facial tissue” Kevin Robinson Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> From: Dürrer Bernd Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2022 7:56:08 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] AW: [PSES] To NRTL or no

[PSES] Engineering Position - OSHA NRTL Program

2022-06-13 Thread Kevin Robinson
Kevin Robinson - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http

[PSES] Electrical Engineer for OSHA NRTL Program

2022-01-10 Thread Kevin Robinson
Hello Everyone, I wanted to share a vacancy announcement for an Electrical Engineer in OSHA's Nationally Recognized Testing Laboratory program. Interested candidates may apply at https://go.usa.gov/xt2QM - This message is from the

[PSES] Follow-Up Questions October IEEE PSES Virtual Chapter - OSHA NRTL

2020-10-20 Thread Kevin Robinson
ions/inspections are typically non-destructive investigations that address only a portion of the requirements in a specific test standard. The work is typically done at the location of the end installation and is often done on unique or one of a kind pieces of equipment. Kevin Robi

Re: [PSES] Mandatory certification

2020-02-21 Thread Kevin Robinson
ity fall on the purchaser/end-user or on the manufacturer? > > > > Best regards, > > > > *Mark Stultz* | CMSE® | Sealed Air | Automated Packaging Systems | > Streetsboro, OH | 330-342-2402 > > > > *From:* Kevin Robinson > *Sent:* Friday, February 21, 2020 11:49 AM > *

Re: [PSES] Mandatory certification

2020-02-21 Thread Kevin Robinson
. It > is focused on ‘extremely’ bespoke equipment essentially designed by the > workplace owner. > > > > Are those roughly correct? (any further clarifications welcome). > > > > Regards, > > -Lauren Crane > > > > *From:* Kevin Robinson > *Sent:*

Re: [PSES] Mandatory certification

2020-02-21 Thread Kevin Robinson
where does the line get drawn? Kevin Robinson On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 10:35 AM Brian Kunde wrote: > Not all companies manufacturers high volume consumer goods. Our company > designs and builds analytical test equipment (laboratory equipment) which > is very expensive (relatively spea

Re: [PSES] Mandatory certification

2020-02-20 Thread Kevin Robinson
be used to meet the definition of “acceptable”. https://www.osha.gov/laws-regs/standardinterpretations/publicationdate/currentyear Disclaimer: My positions posted here are my own and do not represent the official positions of my employer the US Department of Labor or OSHA. Kevin Robinson Get

[PSES] Safety Engineer position

2019-08-01 Thread Kevin Robinson
and apply at https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/541417400 Kevin Robinson - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc

Re: [PSES] Class 1 Div 2 in a pressurized enclosure requires NTRL?

2019-05-09 Thread Kevin Robinson
ethods, and installations of equipment in hazardous (classified) locations shall be intrinsically safe, approved for the hazardous (classified) location, or safe or for the hazardous (classified) location. Thank you for your answer Kind Regards Daniel Rodríguez From: Kevin Robinson Sent: Monday, May 06,

Re: [PSES] Class 1 Div 2 in a pressurized enclosure requires NTRL?

2019-05-06 Thread Kevin Robinson
to meet normal location requirements. If you have any questions about the NRTL program, feel free to reach out to me at my office robinson.ke...@dol.gov or 202-693-1911 as I manage the NTRL program for OSHA. Kevin Robinson From: Rodriguez, Daniel (ESP) Sent

Re: [PSES] NRTL approval

2018-11-13 Thread Kevin Robinson
"acceptable" as defined in 29 CFR 1910.399. If the product is going into a workplace it requires NRTL approval. Kevin Robinson (Unofficially here) Director OSHA NRTL Program 202-693-1911 robinson.ke...@dol.gov Kevin From: McBurney, Ian Sent: Tuesday, November

Re: [PSES] CE non-conformity statistics

2018-11-02 Thread Kevin Robinson
Here are a few more resources that attempt to compare rates of compliance between SDoC and 3rd party conformity assessment. http://www.ifia-federation.org/content/wp-content/uploads/IFIA_CIPC_239_2014-2016_Market_survey_report.pdf https://www.regulations.gov/document?D=OSHA-2008-0032-0099

Re: [PSES] Resource for info on cities which require field labeling/certification?

2018-10-18 Thread Kevin Robinson
certification, but they apply only to custom made equipment and equipment that no NRTL can certify. Kevin Robinson Kevin From: Lauren Crane Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 11:15:10 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Resource for info on cities which require

Re: [PSES] Product Standards for Aircon Systems

2018-07-19 Thread Kevin Robinson
For the US safety standards UL 1995 or UL 60335 & UL 60335-2-40 If it is a room air conditioner UL484 Kevin Robinson On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 10:16 AM, Vincent Lee < 08e6c8d35910-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org> wrote: > Hi John > > Good afternoon, > > The countries of in

Re: [PSES] What are the OSHA requirements for a NRTL Mark for the following items

2018-07-19 Thread Kevin Robinson
efinitions for "Acceptable" and "Approved" https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-2017-title29-vol5/pdf/CFR-2017-title29-vol5-sec1910-399.pdf The definition for "Acceptable" is where the NRTL approval requirements are mentioned If you need any more information, feel free to contact m

Re: [PSES] Temp rise measurement

2017-12-20 Thread Kevin Robinson
ducing the damage of enamel insulation of wire in the winding. Thanks and regards, Scott From: Kevin Robinson <kevinrobinso...@gmail.com> Reply-To: Kevin Robinson <kevinrobinso...@gmail.com> Date: Wednesday, 20 December 2017 at 3:40 AM To: <EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSE

Re: [PSES] Temp rise measurement

2017-12-19 Thread Kevin Robinson
I have used a Biddle 57J Energized Winding Resistance Meter. Connect the motor or transformer and you can take measurements while the device is powered. Kevin From: John Woodgate Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 1:18:02 PM To:

Re: [PSES] Hosedown test

2017-05-03 Thread Kevin Robinson
Ralph is correct, if the lab is NRTL recognized, the work can be done at any of the recognized sites listed on the OSHA website (provided they have the equipment). If you have any questions, contact me at my work address. Kevin Robinson Director- OSHA NRTL Program robinson.ke...@dol.gov

Re: [PSES] Which Safety Test Agency Reports are accepted by City of LA Test Lab (please provide text of requirement or code)

2016-11-23 Thread Kevin Robinson
Hi Leo, The City of LA maintains an online list of laboratories that can be viewed here http://www.ladbs.org/services/core-services/plan-check-permit/product-approval/electrical-test-lab . Kevin Robinson On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 2:21 AM, Leo Eisner <l...@eisnersafety.com> wrote: > Hi A

[PSES] Job opening - OSHA NRTL Program

2016-09-21 Thread Kevin Robinson
have any questions about what the position entails, please let me know, however, DO NOT send resumes or salary inquiries to me as it can disqualify you from consideration. Kevin Robinson - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety

[PSES] Measurement Accuracy

2016-09-20 Thread Kevin Robinson
individuals using the same test equipment, and the delta in some instances was nearly 12 degrees C (53.3 - 64.8) for the same component. Just looking for some additional guidance documents or standards that would help me convince the powers that be that such errors are unacceptable. Kevin Robinson

Re: [PSES] Spark Ignition Source

2016-08-16 Thread Kevin Robinson
A common source used for calibration of the spark test chamber for intrinsic safety testing is a 95 mH air core inductor connected to a 24vDC source with current limiting that is adjusted based on the gas group you are using.   Kevin Robinson On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 7:57 PM -0400, "

Re: [PSES] Safety requirements in US

2016-07-24 Thread Kevin Robinson
want NRTL approval even though legally NRTL approval may not be required. Kevin Robinson On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 1:18 AM, Scott Xe <scott...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Rich, > > > > Thanks for your advice! For consumer and household products, compliance > with CPSC requireme

Re: [PSES] Safety requirements in US

2016-07-23 Thread Kevin Robinson
then FDA regs apply Most products fall under multiple regulators as for example, a hospital is both a medical space as well as a workplace.  Thankfully, most us regulations reference voluntary consensus standards so one round of testing will often satisfy all safety regulators.  Kevin Robinson

[PSES] Job announcement

2016-07-22 Thread Kevin Robinson
Hello all I wanted to make you aware of a job opening at OSHA in the NRTL program office for an electrical engineer and auditor.   The announcement can be found here.  https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/445451700.  Kevin Robinson Get Outlook for iOS

Re: [PSES] For Your Information NRTL Directive Draft and Comment

2016-06-09 Thread Kevin Robinson
finition to write. Kevin if you (or anyone) has any questions, feel free to contact me through my "Official" channels: Kevin Robinson Director - Office of Technical Programs and Coordination Activities NRTL Program 202-693-1911 robinson.ke...@dol.gov or nrtlprog...@dol.gov On Thu, J

[PSES] For Your Information NRTL Directive Draft and Comment

2016-06-09 Thread Kevin Robinson
Hello All, I wanted to advise you that the Draft NRTL Program Directive has been published on the OSHA website for public comment. We encourage you all to review the draft directive and to submit any questions, comments, revisions or concerns you may have to OSHA. In previous communications

Re: [PSES] Meet some of the list admins at the PSES Symposium next week

2016-05-10 Thread Kevin Robinson
-0099 Many other commenters provided data, most of it from memory was similar. The above are just comments that I recall as specifically having data. Kevin Robinson On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Jim Bacher <j.bac...@ieee.org> wrote: > John, for EMC (and safety) most of the labs do

Re: [PSES] UL Certification status of a re-sold UPS

2016-03-19 Thread Kevin Robinson
deficiencies in the standard or updated the standard to comply with the applicable electric code, so it may be best to replace the device completely. Kevin Robinson robinson.ke...@dol.gov 202-693-1911 On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Crane, Lauren <lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com> wrote: >

Re: [PSES] Acceptance of CB EMC Test Reports and Certificates

2015-11-02 Thread Kevin Robinson
report. Kevin Robinson > On Nov 2, 2015, at 7:59 PM, Grace Lin <graceli...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear Members, > > I am curious to learn the acceptance (value) of CB EMC test reports and > certificates by the (government) regulatory agencies. > > Is there any reg

Re: [PSES] OSHA and UL60974-1 Engine Driven Arc Welders

2015-10-08 Thread Kevin Robinson
Hi John, My name is Kevin Robinson, and I am the Director of the office that administers the NRTL Program for OSHA. While this response is not an "official" response from OSHA (as I am sending it from my personal account), I would say the same thing if you were to contact

Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track

2015-08-24 Thread Kevin Robinson
he designed and he walked through sensing the current, experiencing pain, and let go current. I would love to see that video again. Kevin Robinson On Aug 24, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Pete Perkins 0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org wrote: John, et al, Well, no demonstration

Re: [PSES] CB Philosophy Questions

2015-04-30 Thread Kevin Robinson
in the workplace, but over the years, some predominantly component standards were added to the list, and OSHA is in the process of removing those standards. That said, NRTLs will still be allowed to accept component certifications from others when evaluating end products. Kevin Robinson a.k.a The OSHA NRTL

Re: [PSES] Is NRTL listing mandatory for consumer-grade telephone terminal equipment?

2015-02-20 Thread Kevin Robinson
estimate, adopting an SDoC system would increase OSHA's entire current budget by more than 150%. Kevin Robinson On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 5:36 PM, McDiarmid, Ralph ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com wrote: I'm drifting ever so slightly off topic now but . . . legislation certainly keeps

Re: [PSES] OSHA NRTL lists

2015-02-04 Thread Kevin Robinson
free to contact me at: robinson.ke...@dol.gov or 202-693-1911 Kevin Robinson On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Brian Oconnell oconne...@tamuracorp.com wrote: Can the Recognized Testing Standards lists on the OSHA (NRTL) web site be considered current ? If not, what is the canonical

Re: [PSES] Certification of Unique Equipment

2014-12-14 Thread Kevin Robinson
with option 1 above (certified by an NRTL). Of course, the requirements imposed by a local AHJ may be different, and my responses do not consider any liability risks. If you have nay further questions, feel free to contact me at my OSHA account: Kevin Robinson OSHA NRTL Program robinson.ke

Re: [PSES] NRTL marks

2014-09-29 Thread Kevin Robinson
/. If you have any questions about this, or any NRTL related matter, please contact me directly at: robinson.ke...@dol.gov or send an e-mail to the general NRTL Program mail box at: nrtlprog...@dol.gov Kevin Robinson (Unofficially in this e-mail) Acting Director OSHA NRTL Program 202-693-1911 On Mon

Re: [PSES] Battery certification issue

2014-09-04 Thread Kevin Robinson
me. Kevin Robinson Electrical Engineer Senior Assessor OSHA NRTL Program robinson.ke...@dol.gov 202-693-1911 On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 1:15 PM, jral...@productsafetyinc.com jral...@productsafetyinc.com wrote: Hi Rich, Yes, I would agree. Not sure how or if we'll ever get

Re: [PSES] Battery certification issue

2014-09-04 Thread Kevin Robinson
standards that could be considered component only standards do apply in some instances to end products (ex. motors, transformers etc.). Internally, it is a discussion that we have all the time, and we do receive comments that recommend the addition or deletion of test standards. Kevin Robinson

[PSES] Job Announcement - Electrical Engineer/Assessor

2014-03-27 Thread Kevin Robinson
the position, but please DO NOT send me any resumes, summary of your experience or applications as it can disqualify you from the application process. Kevin Robinson Electrical Engineer/Senior Assessor OSHA NRTL Program robinson.ke...@dol.gov 202-693-1911

Re: [PSES] 3rd party labs due-diligence

2013-08-30 Thread Kevin Robinson
by ANSI, A2LA, IAS, NIST/NVLAP, FCC, FDA, OSHA/NRTL, Standards Council of Canada, Industry Canada, Verizon, ATT, EPA, IECEE/CB Scheme and many others, chances are, you will not find any significant issues, especially if the lab has been with the same accreditors for many years. Kevin Robinson On Fri

[PSES] Position Opening in OSHA's NRTL Program

2012-12-17 Thread Kevin Robinson
OSHA is currently seeking two experienced electrical engineers to work in its Nationally Recognized Testing Laboratory (NRTL) program. The incumbent would conduct in-depth onsite assessments of national and foreign laboratories seeking recognition as NRTLs, conduct in-depth audits of labs

Re: [PSES] Product safety requirements

2012-11-16 Thread Kevin Robinson
requirements based on the voltage/current from an external power supply. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me directly. Kevin Robinson Engineer Senior Auditor OSHA NRTL Program 202-693-1911 robinson.ke...@dol.gov On Nov 16, 2012, at 7:21 PM, Chuck McDowell chu...@meyersound.com

Re: [PSES] CE Marking Provoqium

2012-08-18 Thread Kevin Robinson
that electrical products be certified by an NRTL. Most major retailers also want NRTL approval on products they sell. While these are not law, if you want to sell your product to consumers through major retail outlets, you are almost required to have your product certified by an NRTL. Kevin

Re: [PSES] OSHA - NRTL audit question

2012-07-03 Thread Kevin Robinson
OSHA only uses OSHA employees to conduct NRTLaudits and assessments. The NRTL program does not operate on a peer assessment type of system. Kevin Robinson Lead Auditor - OSHA NRTL Program On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Doug Powell doug...@gmail.com wrote: Brian, NRTLs are under to oversight

[PSES] Interview Questions

2012-07-03 Thread Kevin Robinson
appreciate it. Kevin Robinson - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived

Re: [PSES] Compliance costs too much.

2012-03-30 Thread Kevin Robinson
not care as compliance costs came from a different budget and were not considered in the total product cost. Kevin Robinson On Mar 30, 2012, at 4:26 PM, Barron, Manny (IS) manny.bar...@ngc.com wrote: I used to manage an outside EMI test lab. About 15 years ago I remember one well known client

[PSES] Job Opening - Electrical Engineer/NRTL Auditor

2012-03-20 Thread Kevin Robinson
have any questions about the position, please feel free to contact me at robinson.ke...@dol.gov Kevin Robinson NRTL Program Engineer Lead Auditor 202-693-1911 - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc

[PSES] Job Opening - Electrical Engineer - OSHA NRTL Program

2012-03-14 Thread Kevin Robinson
, DC. The position announcement can be found at http://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/311868000 While I can not directly accept resumes or applications, if you do have any questions about the position, please feel free to contact me at robinson.ke...@dol.gov Kevin Robinson

Re: [PSES] Is this common knowledge - Electrical Ratings

2012-01-29 Thread Kevin Robinson
on the product were ___. Most consumers don't know a Volt from an Amp or how they relate, but they do know they are important and will seek out the answer when it is important. Kevin Robinson On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Richard Nute ri...@ieee.org wrote: The ratings could just

[PSES] Is this common knowledge - Electrical Ratings

2012-01-27 Thread Kevin Robinson
/240 V and another product with a marked rating of 120-240V, what would be the difference between these two products? Would a user or operator need to do anything special with one or both of these products to use it at 120V or 240V? Thanks, Kevin Robinson OSHA

Re: [PSES] Is this common knowledge - Electrical Ratings

2012-01-27 Thread Kevin Robinson
Thanks everyone for your response. Everyone who responded to me on the forum and privately was correct that 120-240V indicates a range, and the product can operate at any voltage over that range. 120/240V indicates that the product can only operate at those specific voltages (plus tolerances).

Re: [PSES] Mandatory NRTL certification

2012-01-06 Thread Kevin Robinson
requirements. If you have any additional questions, please feel free to contact me directly. Kevin Robinson Department of Labor – OSHA NRTL Program Engineer Lead Auditor Office of Technical Programs Coordination Activities 200 Constitution Ave, NW, Room N-3655 Washington DC 20210 Phone: 202

Re: CCC processes

2008-07-02 Thread Kevin Robinson
did not immediately see information on the CCC process, but I think that the background information will help fill in some of the gaps when people reply specifically to the CCC process issue. Kevin Robinson On 7/1/08, Rich Nute rn...@san.rr.com wrote: Is there a good document

RE: Haz Loc Testing

2002-02-04 Thread Kevin Robinson
conducted are drop tests from 1m on to concrete (for portable apparatus) and temperature tests to determine the maximum temperature in the product. If you are looking for more detail than that, please contact me off line and I will be happy to discuss further. Kevin Robinson Senior Project Engineer

RE: CFR requirements for the workplace

2001-09-14 Thread Kevin Robinson
29 CFR 1910 is the section that requires products be listed by an NRTL. Kevin Robinson Senior Project Engineer/QA Safety Laboratory MET Laboratories Phone: (410) 354-3300 x 361 Fax: (410) 354-3313 -Original Message- From: Patricia Knudsen (EWU) [SMTP:ewup...@am1.ericsson.se] Sent

RE: Class I Division 1 versus Class I Division 2

2001-03-15 Thread Kevin Robinson
require some rather severe product modifications. Kevin Robinson Senior Project Engineer/QA Safety Laboratory MET Laboratories The Nation's FIRST NRTL Phone: (410) 354-3300 x 361 Fax: (410) 354-3313 -Original Message- From: Loop, Robert [SMTP:rl...@hnt.wylelabs.com] Sent: Thursday

RE: Conversion program

2000-06-16 Thread Kevin Robinson
Here is the original E-mail from November 1999: For those of you interested, there is a free conversion program located at the following address: http://www.joshmadison.com/software http://www.joshmadison.com/software http://www.joshmadison.com/software

RE: Network Card Certification

2000-05-11 Thread Kevin Robinson
and will be harmonized with IEC60950 3rd edition Kevin Robinson Project Engineer/QA MET Laboratories Phone: (410) 354-3300x361 Fax: (410) 354-3313 E-Mail: krobin...@metlabs.com mailto:krobin...@metlabs.com

RE: Network Card Certification

2000-05-11 Thread Kevin Robinson
The final version is not yet out, but you can apparently purchase a proposed copy of UL60950 from Global http://global.ihs.com/cgi-bin/detdoc.cgi?FRITTER=130536DOCID=7335720 http://global.ihs.com/cgi-bin/detdoc.cgi?FRITTER=130536DOCID=7335720 Kevin

RE: NRTL acceptance

1999-11-23 Thread Kevin Robinson
C22.2 No 950, among others) that from the legal aspect are equal. Hope this helps to answer your question. Kevin Robinson Project Engineer/QA MET Laboratories Phone: (410) 354-3300x361 Fax: (410) 354-3313

RE: NRTL acceptance

1999-11-23 Thread Kevin Robinson
for laboratories but it did not tun up all of the laboratories that I knew were CO's, I had better luck searching for specific laboratories. Kevin Robinson Project Engineer/QA MET Laboratories Phone: (410) 354-3300x361 Fax

RE: Argentina Approval/Certification

1999-07-23 Thread Kevin Robinson
E-mail: lfr...@metlabs.com mailto:lfr...@metlabs.com Web: www.metlabs.com http://www.metlabs.com He should be able to give you all the information that you need. Hope this helps. Kevin Robinson Project Engineer/QA

RE: Enclosure ratings IP vs NEMA

1999-04-08 Thread Kevin Robinson
NEMA 250 , appendix A has a chart that makes the comparison between NEMA and IP ratings, although it can only be used to convert NEMA type numbers to IEC Classifications. Hope this helps. Kevin Robinson MET Laboratories