RE: BS EN 55022
Ghery, Could you in short resume the links between de dated versions of : CISPR 22 : dated and their corresponding edition numbers EN 55022 dated versions versus CISPR 22 edition numbers they were based on And if there were any (common) modifications between CISPR 22 and the corresponding EN 55022 I’d love to have this information from the 1998 version off. One of the reason is that I cannot find an edition 5 for CISPR 22. Thanks for helping me (us) out. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen ce-test, qualified testing bv Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens Price, Andrew (SELEX GALILEO, UK) Verzonden: Friday, October 31, 2008 8:07 AM Aan: emc-p...@ieee.org Onderwerp: BS EN 55022 all Have just checked the BS EN document page for BS EN 55022, the version listed 30-11-2006 which is listed as active is version BS EN 55022:2006 +A1:2007. This document includes limits for Radiated Emissions above 1GHz in Section 6.2 Tables 8 and 9. Regards Andy Andrew P. Price Principle Hardware Engineer, EMC Specialist SELEX GALILEO, Sensors Airborne Systems Christopher Martin Road Basildon Essex SS14 3EL Mail Ref : K160 ( Tel Direct : +44 (0)1268 887271 ( Tel EMC LAB : +44 (0)1268 883308 )Mobile: +44 (0)7507 854888 P Please consider the environment before printing this email. SELEX Sensors and Airborne Systems Limited Registered Office: Sigma House, Christopher Martin Road, Basildon, Essex SS14 3EL A company registered in England Wales. Company no. 02426132 This email and any attachments are confidential to the intended recipient and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it from your system and notify the sender. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose or distribute its contents to any other person. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: BS EN 55022
In message baaffc88eeb3c541b27f567064251ef905045...@desmdswms202.des.grplnk.net, dated Fri, 31 Oct 2008, Price, Andrew (SELEX GALILEO, UK) andrew.p.pr...@selexgalileo.com writes: Have just checked the BS EN document page for BS EN 55022, the version listed 30-11-2006 which is listed as active is version BS EN 55022:2006 +A1:2007. This document includes limits for Radiated Emissions above 1GHz in Section 6.2 Tables 8 and 9. But you have to look at the Endorsement Notice in the standard itself. Amendment 1 does not come into mandatory effect until 2010-10-01 -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk Either we are causing global warming, in which case we may be able to stop it, or natural variation is causing it, and we probably can't stop it. You choose! John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: BS EN 55022
I thought id might help if I’d resume the information I have on hand: CISPR 22 : 1985 (ed1) -- EN 55022:1987 (mod) (listed OJ C99:2000) CISPR 22:1993 (ed2) -- EN 55022:1994(mod) (listed in OJ C99:2000 +A1+A2) CISPR 22:1997 (ed3) -- EN 55022:1998 (mod) (listed in OJ C99:2000 +A1+A2) CURRENT CISPR 22: 2005? (ed4) -- not published as EN ? CISPR 22: 200? (ed5.2) -- EN 55022:2006 (mod) listed in OJ C314:2006) MANDATORY per 2009 CISPR 22: 2008 (ed6) -- approved in sept 2008 Please correct and add as appropriate …. for the lists benefit ! Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen ce-test, qualified testing bv Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens Gert Gremmen Verzonden: Friday, October 31, 2008 8:18 AM Aan: emc-p...@ieee.org; Pettit, Ghery Onderwerp: RE: BS EN 55022 Ghery, Could you in short resume the links between de dated versions of : CISPR 22 : dated and their corresponding edition numbers EN 55022 dated versions versus CISPR 22 edition numbers they were based on And if there were any (common) modifications between CISPR 22 and the corresponding EN 55022 I’d love to have this information from the 1998 version off. One of the reason is that I cannot find an edition 5 for CISPR 22. Thanks for helping me (us) out. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen ce-test, qualified testing bv Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens Price, Andrew (SELEX GALILEO, UK) Verzonden: Friday, October 31, 2008 8:07 AM Aan: emc-p...@ieee.org Onderwerp: BS EN 55022 all Have just checked the BS EN document page for BS EN 55022, the version listed 30-11-2006 which is listed as active is version BS EN 55022:2006 +A1:2007. This document includes limits for Radiated Emissions above 1GHz in Section 6.2 Tables 8 and 9. Regards Andy Andrew P. Price Principle Hardware Engineer, EMC Specialist SELEX GALILEO, Sensors Airborne Systems Christopher Martin Road Basildon Essex SS14 3EL Mail Ref : K160 ( Tel Direct : +44 (0)1268 887271 ( Tel EMC LAB : +44 (0)1268 883308 )Mobile: +44 (0)7507 854888 P Please consider the environment before printing this email. SELEX Sensors and Airborne Systems Limited Registered Office: Sigma House, Christopher Martin Road, Basildon, Essex SS14 3EL A company registered in England Wales. Company no. 02426132 This email and any attachments are confidential to the intended recipient and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it from your system and notify the sender. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose or distribute its contents to any other person. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: BS EN 55022
But unless A1 is published in the OJ, it is not a harmonized standard under the EMC Directive, correct? Jim Hulbert, Group Leader TSO Competitive Compliance Engineering Pitney Bowes, 35 Waterview Drive, Shelton, CT 06484 Tel: 203-924-3621 (Internal 442-3621) Fax: 203-924-3352 (Internal 442-3352) From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of John Woodgate Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 3:32 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: BS EN 55022 In message baaffc88eeb3c541b27f567064251ef905045...@desmdswms202.des.grplnk.net, dated Fri, 31 Oct 2008, Price, Andrew (SELEX GALILEO, UK) andrew.p.pr...@selexgalileo.com writes: Have just checked the BS EN document page for BS EN 55022, the version listed 30-11-2006 which is listed as active is version BS EN 55022:2006 +A1:2007. This document includes limits for Radiated Emissions above 1GHz in Section 6.2 Tables 8 and 9. But you have to look at the Endorsement Notice in the standard itself. Amendment 1 does not come into mandatory effect until 2010-10-01 -- - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: BS EN 55022
In message 72b8947772cf0948adaa9853631663fb20c833e...@pbi-namsg-02.mgdpbi.global.pv t, dated Fri, 31 Oct 2008, Jim Hulbert jim.hulb...@pb.com writes: But unless A1 is published in the OJ, it is not a harmonized standard under the EMC Directive, correct? Your point is correct but since the dow date 2010-10-01 appears in the standard, and the docopocoss very rarely differs from the dow, ... -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk Either we are causing global warming, in which case we may be able to stop it, or natural variation is causing it, and we probably can't stop it. You choose! John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: BS EN 55022:1996
You are correct. It is not. And rumor has it that CENELEC got it (the amendment) out too late to make the next list for the OJ, but we’ll have to see when that is finally published. Are we having fun yet? :-) Ghery Pettit From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Jim Hulbert Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 8:37 AM To: EMC-PSTC (emc-p...@ieee.org) Subject: FW: BS EN 55022:1996 Below is a response I received today from BSI regarding the subject standard. I guess the missing link (for me anyway) was that I never received corrigendum 1-16829 which removed section 6.2 from the standard. Regarding A1:2007, 6.2 is back in. However, since A1:2007 is not yet published in the OJ (I don't think), then it's not yet applicable under the EMC Directive. Please correct me if I am misunderstanding anything. Jim Hulbert, Group Leader TSO Competitive Compliance Engineering Pitney Bowes, 35 Waterview Drive, Shelton, CT 06484 Tel: 203-924-3621 (Internal 442-3621) Fax: 203-924-3352 (Internal 442-3352) From: Library [mailto:library.libr...@bsigroup.com] Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 11:07 AM To: Jim Hulbert Subject: RE: BS EN 55022:1996 Dear Mr Hulbert Thank you for your email. I have looked at the various amended versions of that standard and that table has changed over time. The original issue in 2006 had section 6.2, including table 8 and 9. In the first amended version (corrigendum 1- 16829) section 6.2 appears not to be in the standard. However in the current version of the standard BS EN 55022:2006+A1:2007 https://www.bsi-global.com/en/My-BSI/M -Subscriptions/BSOL/Search/Item-Detail/?pid=0030003843 this section has been inserted by IEC Amendment 1 (see the foreword). This is indicated by the A1 tags. Therefore the current version of this standard does have a section 6.2. If you believe that there is an error in the standard then please let us know. Kind regards Kind regards Bethan Carter Resource Centre Manager BSI Resource Centre _ BSI British Standards BSI Group Headquarters, 389 Chiswick High Road, London, W4 4AL, UK T: +44 (0)20 8996 7004 F: +44 (0)20 8996 7005 E: libr...@bsigroup.com mailto:libr...@bsigroup.com W: www.bsigroup.com http://www.bsigroup.com/ (Please note change of email and web address to bsigroup.com, and update your records accordingly) P Please consider the environment before printing this email From: Jim Hulbert [mailto:jim.hulb...@pb.com] Sent: 30 October 2008 20:33 To: cservices Cc: jay.winin...@ihs.com Subject: BS EN 55022:1996 My company purchases BSI standards through IHS (formerly Global Engineering Documents). One of the standards we have purchased is BS EN 55022:2006, which is listed in the Official Journal under the EMC Directive. It has recently come to my attention that the initial issue of this standard was withdrawn by BSI due to an error. I've been told that section 6.2 (radiated emissions above 1 GHz) should not have been included in the standard and that there was a subsequent re-issue of the standard which deleted that section. The standard that we purchased does include section 6.2. Please confirm whether or not EN 55022:2006 was in fact re-issued with section 6.2 (radiated emissions above 1 GHz) removed. IHS is unable to confirm this for me. Best regards, Jim Hulbert, Group Leader TSO Competitive Compliance Engineering Pitney Bowes, 35 Waterview Drive, Shelton, CT 06484 Tel: 203-924-3621 (Internal 442-3621) Fax: 203-924-3352 (Internal 442-3352) Visit the BSI website at www.bsigroup.com This email may contain confidential information and/or copyright material. This email is intended for the use of the addressee only. Any unauthorised use may be unlawful. If you receive this email by mistake, please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your email software. Thank you for your cooperation. This e-mail has been scanned for all known viruses. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc
