Re: [PSES] Assess risk of electric shock from charged capacitors

2022-10-18 Thread Ken Javor
; <http://doug...@gmail.com> > > Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2022 10:06:20 -0600 > To: Ken Javor <http://ken.ja...@emccompliance.com> > > Cc: http://EMC-PSTC@listserv.ieee.org> > > Subject: Re: [PSES] Assess risk of electric shock from charged capacitors > > Ken,

Re: [PSES] Assess risk of electric shock from charged capacitors

2022-10-18 Thread Douglas E Powell
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Re: [PSES] Assess risk of electric shock from charged capacitors

2022-10-18 Thread Ken Javor
should not even be a subject of debate. Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 From: "doug...@gmail.com" Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2022 10:06:20 -0600 To: Ken Javor Cc: Subject: Re: [PSES] Assess risk of electric shock from charged capacitors Ken, I may be wrong but I believe the reluctance to accep

Re: [PSES] Assess risk of electric shock from charged capacitors

2022-10-18 Thread Douglas E Powell
> > Ken Javor > Phone: (256) 650-5261 > > > -- > *From: *"doug...@gmail.com" > *Reply-To: *"doug...@gmail.com" > *Date: *Mon, 17 Oct 2022 17:37:21 -0600 > *To: * > *Subject: *Re: [PSES] Assess risk of electric shoc

Re: [PSES] Assess risk of electric shock from charged capacitors

2022-10-17 Thread Dan Roman
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Assess risk of electric shock from charged capacitors I'm curious as to the rationale behind that. It should be obvious that the power was turned off at the appropriate time. That would be demonstrated using an o'scope, just as in the hit or miss

Re: [PSES] Assess risk of electric shock from charged capacitors

2022-10-17 Thread Ken Javor
-To: "doug...@gmail.com" Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 17:37:21 -0600 To: Subject: Re: [PSES] Assess risk of electric shock from charged capacitors Ken, Yes, but I have had certification engineers hesitate or disallow using any home-brew solid state circuits to control safety testing. -Dou

Re: [PSES] Assess risk of electric shock from charged capacitors

2022-10-17 Thread Douglas E Powell
*"doug...@gmail.com" > *Date: *Mon, 17 Oct 2022 13:08:17 -0600 > *To: * > *Subject: *Re: [PSES] Assess risk of electric shock from charged > capacitors > > On the question of probe resistance, I always recommend 100:1 probes which > will have a negligible effect o

Re: [PSES] Assess risk of electric shock from charged capacitors

2022-10-17 Thread Ken Javor
A simple circuit can provide disconnect at the peak of the ac waveform. Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 From: "doug...@gmail.com" Reply-To: "doug...@gmail.com" Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 13:08:17 -0600 To: Subject: Re: [PSES] Assess risk of electric shock fro

Re: [PSES] Assess risk of electric shock from charged capacitors

2022-10-17 Thread Douglas E Powell
ogies > > > > > > > > *From:* Scott Xe > *Sent:* Monday, October 17, 2022 8:18 AM > *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > *Subject:* Re: [PSES] Assess risk of electric shock from charged > capacitors > > > > In order to judge if there is no risk of electri

Re: [PSES] Assess risk of electric shock from charged capacitors

2022-10-17 Thread Brian Kunde
Another way to go is to buy a Capacitor Discharge Tester that is made to perform the test you want. Just plug it in and press a couple buttons. There may be more on the market but the only one I know of is made by Compliance West USA, model CDT-240. We have the 15 amp version. The nice thing

Re: [PSES] Assess risk of electric shock from charged capacitors

2022-10-17 Thread Richard Nute
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Assess risk of electric shock from charged capacitors In order to judge if there is no risk of electric shock from charged capacitors, it is required to measure the voltage across L and N of mains plug after the removal of power input. To avoid

Re: [PSES] Assess risk of electric shock from charged capacitors

2022-10-17 Thread Douglas E Powell
Scott, I very much prefer the two-channel o'scope dual-probe method using the A-B function. Alternatively a differential o'scope probe is an option, although they tend to be rather pricey. It is usually not necessary to get high speed probes as this is only line frequency. It is inadvisable to

Re: [PSES] Assess risk of electric shock from charged capacitors

2022-10-17 Thread Scott Xe
In order to judge if there is no risk of electric shock from charged capacitors, it is required to measure the voltage across L and N of mains plug after the removal of power input. To avoid grounding loop between test equipment and the unit under test, an isolating transformer is strongly