Re: [PSES] CCC on Cooling Fans?
Brian -- Our experience is that CCC applies to various products according to their harmonized tariff code. The Chinese maintain a list of products, with their harmonized tariff codes, that fall under the scope of CCC. Additionally in our experience, those same components, when shipped as part of a finished end product, do not fall under the scope of CCC. Lastly, there is an exception for repair parts, but it seems to take some talking with local officials to implement this exception. Their stated concern seems to be wanting to ensure that calling them "repair parts" is simply not an excuse to import non-CCC parts and sell then to the broader market as component parts for new products. Our local employees in China had to work with local officials to implement this exception for some repair parts that we wanted to stock in China. Mike Sherman Graco Inc. > On March 5, 2019 at 10:43 AM Brian Kunde wrote: > > We received a strange request today from Hong Kong supposedly initiated > from Customs. > > We were asked to provide CCC supporting documents for about a dozen > cooling fans used in some of our instruments (laboratory equipment). I knew > CCC is required on household electrical fans but not small internal cooling > fans. The list of fans is a mixture of 230Vac fans and 24Vdc fans. > > Some of these fans were used in products that went obsolete 10 years ago > or longer. We may still ship them as repair replacement parts, but I thought > service parts were exempt. > > Is this a new requirement or do you think there is some kind of confusion > going on? > > Regards, > > The Other Brian > > PS: How many active EMC-PSTC members do you think there are? > - > > > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc > discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to > mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org > > > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: > http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html > > Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site > at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in > well-used formats), large files, etc. > > Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ > Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to > unsubscribe) http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html > List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html > > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > Scott Douglas mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org > > Mike Cantwell mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org > > > For policy questions, send mail to: > Jim Bacher mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org > > David Heald mailto:dhe...@gmail.com > > - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
Re: [PSES] CCC on Cooling Fans?
Probably a keen new officer with insufficient training. Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk Rayleigh, Essex UK On 2019-03-05 16:43, Brian Kunde wrote: We received a strange request today from Hong Kong supposedly initiated from Customs. We were asked to provide CCC supporting documents for about a dozen cooling fans used in some of our instruments (laboratory equipment). I knew CCC is required on household electrical fans but not small internal cooling fans. The list of fans is a mixture of 230Vac fans and 24Vdc fans. Some of these fans were used in products that went obsolete 10 years ago or longer. We may still ship them as repair replacement parts, but I thought service parts were exempt. Is this a new requirement or do you think there is some kind of confusion going on? Regards, The Other Brian PS: How many active EMC-PSTC members do you think there are? - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org>> Mike Cantwell mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org>> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org>> David Heald mailto:dhe...@gmail.com>> - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
[PSES] CCC on Cooling Fans?
We received a strange request today from Hong Kong supposedly initiated from Customs. We were asked to provide CCC supporting documents for about a dozen cooling fans used in some of our instruments (laboratory equipment). I knew CCC is required on household electrical fans but not small internal cooling fans. The list of fans is a mixture of 230Vac fans and 24Vdc fans. Some of these fans were used in products that went obsolete 10 years ago or longer. We may still ship them as repair replacement parts, but I thought service parts were exempt. Is this a new requirement or do you think there is some kind of confusion going on? Regards, The Other Brian PS: How many active EMC-PSTC members do you think there are? - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
