Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

[Jim Bacher]

There is a community site for discussions on compliance, which is listed in
the footer as a place for large attachments.  However the bulk of the users
preferred email,  so it has never had a lot of activity.

The Online Communities site is at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/

The archive for the email list is at:
http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html

As others mentioned there are several LinkedIn groups as well. Some of
those are focused on specific TC (technical committee) subjects. Just
search for PSES on LinkedIn.

The best and fastest responses will be on this email list.

Jim

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Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

[Kortas, Jamison]

Understood. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something - like the 
php board mentioned in an earlier email. 

Thanks,

Jamison

-Original Message-
From: dward [mailto:dw...@pctestlab.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 10:38 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

It has served the community well.  As the old saying goes - if it aint broke, 
don't fix it.

​
Dennis Ward
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-Original Message-
From: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen [mailto:g.grem...@cetest.nl]
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 7:14 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

Well there is LinkedIn , this group has some representation there.

IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society (PSES) 
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.linkedin.com_groups_75652=DQIDaQ=clRTYxLjfWTYQkksq4Trqw=SuXR4v_cWDGps50Ob7OgG3eGvjdtolb5h84QBM8NxmY=mPdbAmMzOTuyvxLqKdnY0pst_WqMyhkvKx9YHlunCTQ=SUD-pLNRd6Prorglgi1fsLxjERyPBegB3hXxCcuXZSc=
But it's not covering these discussions  (of course).

For those of use interested in an EMC LinkedIn group...
EMC Experts
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.linkedin.com_groups_1784463=DQIDaQ=clRTYxLjfWTYQkksq4Trqw=SuXR4v_cWDGps50Ob7OgG3eGvjdtolb5h84QBM8NxmY=mPdbAmMzOTuyvxLqKdnY0pst_WqMyhkvKx9YHlunCTQ=2wCi0jLp2FazRl3SzGkLyrdIv1yTC6z8jk-ZM5JHbn4=
 

I happen to be the owner, so this is a flagrant pub
But this group is virtually spam / promotion free.

Regards,

Ing. Gert Gremmen
Approvals manager



+ ce marking of electrical/electronic equipment Independent Consultancy 
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-Original Message-
From: Kortas, Jamison [mailto:jamison.kor...@ecolab.com]
Sent: Wednesday 28 September 2016 15:21
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

On an unrelated note - is there another way to interact with this community 
other than through emails? Is there a board, or something somewhere? 

Thanks,

Jamison

-Original Message-
From: Brian O'Connell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 8:30 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

There have been some consistency problems with this service, probably from 
usage of direct CSS url links and/or my stupid brute-force script, so my 
simple-minded approach is to have my crawler run the login(which has changed 
several times), then resolve the href-tagged links, then go from there to each 
notification page. Could be done manually, but all hail the power of 
beautifulsoup.

Have not used for very long time, but so far does seem to be a decent source of 
global regulatory information.

Brian

-Original Message-
From: Kortas, Jamison [mailto:jamison.kor...@ecolab.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 4:23 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

Hopefully - I am doing this right - this is my first post.

I recently found Notify U.S. 
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tsapps.nist.gov_notifyus_data_home_home.cfm=DQIDaQ=clRTYxLjfWTYQkksq4

Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

[dward]

It has served the community well.  As the old saying goes - if it aint broke, 
don't fix it.

​
Dennis Ward
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Engineering Laboratory, Inc., and is intended for the exclusive use of the 
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and/or legally privileged.  Any unauthorized use that may compromise that 
confidentiality via distribution or disclosure is prohibited.  Please notify 
the sender immediately if you receive this communication in error, and delete 
it from your computer system.  Usage of PCTEST email addresses for non-business 
related activities is strictly prohibited.  No warranty is made that the e-mail 
or attachments(s) are free from computer virus or other defect.  Thank you.

-Original Message-
From: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen [mailto:g.grem...@cetest.nl] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 7:14 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

Well there is LinkedIn , this group has some representation there.

IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society (PSES)
https://www.linkedin.com/groups/75652
But it's not covering these discussions  (of course).

For those of use interested in an EMC LinkedIn group...
EMC Experts
https://www.linkedin.com/groups/1784463

I happen to be the owner, so this is a flagrant pub
But this group is virtually spam / promotion free.

Regards,

Ing. Gert Gremmen
Approvals manager



+ ce marking of electrical/electronic equipment Independent Consultancy 
+ Services Compliance Testing and Design for CE marking
 according to EC-directives:
- Electro Magnetic Compatibility 2004/108/EC
- Electrical Safety 2006/95/EC
- Medical Devices 93/42/EC
- Radio & Telecommunication Terminal Equipment 99/5/EC
+ Improvement of Product Quality and Reliability testing Education

Web:www.cetest.nl (English) 
Phone :  +31 10 415 24 26
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for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. 
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-Original Message-
From: Kortas, Jamison [mailto:jamison.kor...@ecolab.com]
Sent: Wednesday 28 September 2016 15:21
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

On an unrelated note - is there another way to interact with this community 
other than through emails? Is there a board, or something somewhere? 

Thanks,

Jamison

-Original Message-
From: Brian O'Connell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 8:30 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

There have been some consistency problems with this service, probably from 
usage of direct CSS url links and/or my stupid brute-force script, so my 
simple-minded approach is to have my crawler run the login(which has changed 
several times), then resolve the href-tagged links, then go from there to each 
notification page. Could be done manually, but all hail the power of 
beautifulsoup.

Have not used for very long time, but so far does seem to be a decent source of 
global regulatory information.

Brian

-Original Message-
From: Kortas, Jamison [mailto:jamison.kor...@ecolab.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 4:23 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

Hopefully - I am doing this right - this is my first post.

I recently found Notify U.S. 
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tsapps.nist.gov_notifyus_data_home_home.cfm=DQIDaQ=clRTYxLjfWTYQkksq4Trqw=SuXR4v_cWDGps50Ob7OgG3eGvjdtolb5h84QBM8NxmY=IReRG-UxkmrJ8pyfltBE4hphRlWOTXCfdP53vklA2x4=urX8Yhg2scOT-Og6yRG5v1sZ5EbS7Klt5JP3l2bKbBU=
   which is run by the NIST in the Dept. Of Commerce and it notifies me of 
anything published by the WTO an others. You can filter it by field of interest 
and country. It is quite informative and free.

Here are the "fields of interest":

65  Agriculture
 49  Aircraft and Space Vehicle Engineering
 71  Chemical Technology
 93  Civil Engineering
 61  Clothing Industry
 CA  Conformity Assessment Procedures
 91  Construction Materials and Building
 97  Domestic and Commercial Equipment. Entertainment. Sports
 29  Electrical Engineering
 31  Electronics
 27  Energy and Heat Transfer Engineering
 13  Envir

Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

[Doug Powell]

What you see is what you get.  This is ListServ software and has been in use 
since the 1990s or before.  It has served us well.   

If you are looking for something like a phpBB, I don't think this is available. 
 Of course you can always talk to one of the good people listed at the bottom 
of every email.  

All the best,  Doug


  Original Message  
From: jamison.kor...@ecolab.com
Sent: September 28, 2016 7:24 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Reply-to: jamison.kor...@ecolab.com
Subject: Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

On an unrelated note - is there another way to interact with this community 
other than through emails? Is there a board, or something somewhere? 

Thanks,

Jamison

-Original Message-
From: Brian O'Connell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 8:30 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

There have been some consistency problems with this service, probably from 
usage of direct CSS url links and/or my stupid brute-force script, so my 
simple-minded approach is to have my crawler run the login(which has changed 
several times), then resolve the href-tagged links, then go from there to each 
notification page. Could be done manually, but all hail the power of 
beautifulsoup.

Have not used for very long time, but so far does seem to be a decent source of 
global regulatory information.

Brian

-Original Message-
From: Kortas, Jamison [mailto:jamison.kor...@ecolab.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 4:23 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

Hopefully - I am doing this right - this is my first post.

I recently found Notify U.S. 
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tsapps.nist.gov_notifyus_data_home_home.cfm=DQIDaQ=clRTYxLjfWTYQkksq4Trqw=SuXR4v_cWDGps50Ob7OgG3eGvjdtolb5h84QBM8NxmY=IReRG-UxkmrJ8pyfltBE4hphRlWOTXCfdP53vklA2x4=urX8Yhg2scOT-Og6yRG5v1sZ5EbS7Klt5JP3l2bKbBU=
   which is run by the NIST in the Dept. Of Commerce and it notifies me of 
anything published by the WTO an others. You can filter it by field of interest 
and country. It is quite informative and free.

Here are the "fields of interest":

65  Agriculture
49  Aircraft and Space Vehicle Engineering
71  Chemical Technology
93  Civil Engineering
61  Clothing Industry
CA  Conformity Assessment Procedures
91  Construction Materials and Building
97  Domestic and Commercial Equipment. Entertainment. Sports
29  Electrical Engineering
31  Electronics
27  Energy and Heat Transfer Engineering
13  Environment. Health Protection. Safety
23  Fluid Systems and Components for General Use Measurement of fluid flow, see 
17.120
67  Food Technology
01  Generalities. Terminology. Standardization. Documentation
81  Glass and Ceramics Industries
11  Health Care Technology
37  Image Technology
35  Information Technology. Office Machines
25  Manufacturing Engineering
This field includes standards for general use
53  Materials Handling Equipment
07  Mathematics. Natural Sciences
21  Mechanical Systems and Components for General Use
77  Metallurgy
95  Military Engineering
73  Mining and Minerals
55  Packaging and Distribution of Goods
87  Paint and Colour Industries
85  Paper Technology
75  Petroleum and Related Technologies
17  Physical Metrology and Measurement. Physical Phenomena
39  Precision Mechanics. Jewellery
45  Railway Engineering
43  Road Vehicle Engineering
83  Rubber and Plastics Industries
47  Shipbuilding and Marine Structures
03  Sociology. Services. Company Organization and Management. Administration. 
Transport
33  Telecommunications. Audio and Video Engineering
19  Testing
This field includes standards for general use only Analytical chemistry, see 
71.040
59  Textile and Leather Technology
79  Wood Technology

Thanks,

-Jamison

-Original Message-
From: Doug Powell [mailto:doug...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 2:53 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

Thanks, I'll check out DuckDuckGo, it sounds like it may have possibilities.  

I have looked at rss aggregators in the past.  It's kind of hard to find one 
that consolidates similar postings in multiple locations.  This also may be 
worth another look.

All the best. Doug. 


  Original Message
From: oconne...@tamuracorp.com
Sent: September 27, 2016 1:39 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Reply-to: oconne...@tamuracorp.com
Subject: Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

Distill will monitor selected pages, but is not very selective. And indiscrete 
browser plugins are not good for a corporate computer. You still need something 
to traverse the web and find new/alternate regulatory information. Related - 
there are commercial aggregation services for compliance engineers for $$$. And 
as for 'keywords' much of the SEO gaming will not allow a simplistic parsing 
for words or phrases to return reliable data sets.

Prefer the API for DuckDuckGo (duckduckgo.com/api) for sear

Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

[alfred1520list]

What do you mean by interacting? If you mean mostly one way, i.e. reading of 
the same posts without using emails, there's is the archive server. The link is 
in the banner at the end put in by the list server.

On September 28, 2016 6:21:13 AM PDT, "Kortas, Jamison" 
<jamison.kor...@ecolab.com> wrote:
>On an unrelated note - is there another way to interact with this
>community other than through emails? Is there a board, or something
>somewhere? 
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jamison
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Brian O'Connell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] 
>Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 8:30 PM
>To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>Subject: Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking
>
>There have been some consistency problems with this service, probably
>from usage of direct CSS url links and/or my stupid brute-force script,
>so my simple-minded approach is to have my crawler run the login(which
>has changed several times), then resolve the href-tagged links, then go
>from there to each notification page. Could be done manually, but all
>hail the power of beautifulsoup.
>
>Have not used for very long time, but so far does seem to be a decent
>source of global regulatory information.
>
>Brian
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Kortas, Jamison [mailto:jamison.kor...@ecolab.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 4:23 PM
>To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>Subject: Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking
>
>Hopefully - I am doing this right - this is my first post.
>
>I recently found Notify U.S.
>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tsapps.nist.gov_notifyus_data_home_home.cfm=DQIDaQ=clRTYxLjfWTYQkksq4Trqw=SuXR4v_cWDGps50Ob7OgG3eGvjdtolb5h84QBM8NxmY=IReRG-UxkmrJ8pyfltBE4hphRlWOTXCfdP53vklA2x4=urX8Yhg2scOT-Og6yRG5v1sZ5EbS7Klt5JP3l2bKbBU=
>which is run by the NIST in the Dept. Of Commerce and it notifies me of
>anything published by the WTO an others. You can filter it by field of
>interest and country. It is quite informative and free.
>
>Here are the "fields of interest":
>
>65  Agriculture
> 49  Aircraft and Space Vehicle Engineering
> 71  Chemical Technology
> 93  Civil Engineering
> 61  Clothing Industry
> CA  Conformity Assessment Procedures
> 91  Construction Materials and Building
> 97  Domestic and Commercial Equipment. Entertainment. Sports
> 29  Electrical Engineering
> 31  Electronics
> 27  Energy and Heat Transfer Engineering
> 13  Environment. Health Protection. Safety
>23  Fluid Systems and Components for General Use Measurement of fluid
>flow, see 17.120
> 67  Food Technology
> 01  Generalities. Terminology. Standardization. Documentation
> 81  Glass and Ceramics Industries
> 11  Health Care Technology
> 37  Image Technology
> 35  Information Technology. Office Machines
> 25  Manufacturing Engineering
>This field includes standards for general use
> 53  Materials Handling Equipment
> 07  Mathematics. Natural Sciences
> 21  Mechanical Systems and Components for General Use
> 77  Metallurgy
> 95  Military Engineering
> 73  Mining and Minerals
> 55  Packaging and Distribution of Goods
> 87  Paint and Colour Industries
> 85  Paper Technology
> 75  Petroleum and Related Technologies
> 17  Physical Metrology and Measurement. Physical Phenomena
> 39  Precision Mechanics. Jewellery
> 45  Railway Engineering
> 43  Road Vehicle Engineering
> 83  Rubber and Plastics Industries
> 47  Shipbuilding and Marine Structures
>03  Sociology. Services. Company Organization and Management.
>Administration. Transport
> 33  Telecommunications. Audio and Video Engineering
> 19  Testing
>This field includes standards for general use only Analytical
>chemistry, see 71.040
> 59  Textile and Leather Technology
> 79  Wood Technology
>
>Thanks,
>
>-Jamison
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Doug Powell [mailto:doug...@gmail.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 2:53 PM
>To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>Subject: Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking
>
>Thanks, I'll check out DuckDuckGo, it sounds like it may have
>possibilities.  
>
>I have looked at rss aggregators in the past.  It's kind of hard to
>find one that consolidates similar postings in multiple locations. 
>This also may be worth another look.
>
>All the best. Doug. 
>
>
>  Original Message
>From: oconne...@tamuracorp.com
>Sent: September 27, 2016 1:39 PM
>To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>Reply-to: oconne...@tamuracorp.com
>Subject: Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking
>
>Distill will monitor selected pages, but is not very selective. And
>indiscrete browser plugins are not good for a corporate computer. You
>still need something to traverse the web and find new/alternate
>regulatory information. 

Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

[ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen]

Well there is LinkedIn , this group has some
representation there.

IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society (PSES)
https://www.linkedin.com/groups/75652
But it's not covering these discussions  (of course).

For those of use interested in an EMC LinkedIn group...
EMC Experts
https://www.linkedin.com/groups/1784463

I happen to be the owner, so this is a flagrant pub
But this group is virtually spam / promotion free.

Regards,

Ing. Gert Gremmen
Approvals manager



+ ce marking of electrical/electronic equipment
+ Independent Consultancy Services
+ Compliance Testing and Design for CE marking
 according to EC-directives:
    - Electro Magnetic Compatibility 2004/108/EC
    - Electrical Safety 2006/95/EC
    - Medical Devices 93/42/EC
    - Radio & Telecommunication Terminal Equipment 99/5/EC
+ Improvement of Product Quality and Reliability testing
+ Education

Web:    www.cetest.nl (English) 
Phone :  +31 10 415 24 26
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that is confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights 
and are intended for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. 
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limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or 
distribution in any form) by persons other than the designated 
recipient(s) is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, 
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delete the material from any computer. 
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-Original Message-
From: Kortas, Jamison [mailto:jamison.kor...@ecolab.com] 
Sent: Wednesday 28 September 2016 15:21
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

On an unrelated note - is there another way to interact with this community 
other than through emails? Is there a board, or something somewhere? 

Thanks,

Jamison

-Original Message-
From: Brian O'Connell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 8:30 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

There have been some consistency problems with this service, probably from 
usage of direct CSS url links and/or my stupid brute-force script, so my 
simple-minded approach is to have my crawler run the login(which has changed 
several times), then resolve the href-tagged links, then go from there to each 
notification page. Could be done manually, but all hail the power of 
beautifulsoup.

Have not used for very long time, but so far does seem to be a decent source of 
global regulatory information.

Brian

-Original Message-
From: Kortas, Jamison [mailto:jamison.kor...@ecolab.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 4:23 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

Hopefully - I am doing this right - this is my first post.

I recently found Notify U.S. 
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tsapps.nist.gov_notifyus_data_home_home.cfm=DQIDaQ=clRTYxLjfWTYQkksq4Trqw=SuXR4v_cWDGps50Ob7OgG3eGvjdtolb5h84QBM8NxmY=IReRG-UxkmrJ8pyfltBE4hphRlWOTXCfdP53vklA2x4=urX8Yhg2scOT-Og6yRG5v1sZ5EbS7Klt5JP3l2bKbBU=
   which is run by the NIST in the Dept. Of Commerce and it notifies me of 
anything published by the WTO an others. You can filter it by field of interest 
and country. It is quite informative and free.

Here are the "fields of interest":

65  Agriculture
 49  Aircraft and Space Vehicle Engineering
 71  Chemical Technology
 93  Civil Engineering
 61  Clothing Industry
 CA  Conformity Assessment Procedures
 91  Construction Materials and Building
 97  Domestic and Commercial Equipment. Entertainment. Sports
 29  Electrical Engineering
 31  Electronics
 27  Energy and Heat Transfer Engineering
 13  Environment. Health Protection. Safety
 23  Fluid Systems and Components for General Use Measurement of fluid flow, 
see 17.120
 67  Food Technology
 01  Generalities. Terminology. Standardization. Documentation
 81  Glass and Ceramics Industries
 11  Health Care Technology
 37  Image Technology
 35  Information Technology. Office Machines
 25  Manufacturing Engineering
This field includes standards for general use
 53  Materials Handling Equipment
 07  Mathematics. Natural Sciences
 21  Mechanical Systems and Components for General Use
 77  Metallurgy
 95  Military Engineering
 73  Mining and Minerals
 55  Packaging and Distribution of Goods
 87  Paint and Colour Industries
 85  Paper Technology
 75  Petroleum and Related Technologies
 17  Physical Metrology and Measurement. Physical Phenomena
 39  Precision Mechanics. Jewellery
 45  Railway Engineering
 43  Road Vehicle Engineering
 83  Rubber and Plastics Industries
 47  Shipbuilding and Marine Structures
 03  Sociology. Services. Company Organization and Management. 

Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

[Kortas, Jamison]

On an unrelated note - is there another way to interact with this community 
other than through emails? Is there a board, or something somewhere? 

Thanks,

Jamison

-Original Message-
From: Brian O'Connell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 8:30 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

There have been some consistency problems with this service, probably from 
usage of direct CSS url links and/or my stupid brute-force script, so my 
simple-minded approach is to have my crawler run the login(which has changed 
several times), then resolve the href-tagged links, then go from there to each 
notification page. Could be done manually, but all hail the power of 
beautifulsoup.

Have not used for very long time, but so far does seem to be a decent source of 
global regulatory information.

Brian

-Original Message-
From: Kortas, Jamison [mailto:jamison.kor...@ecolab.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 4:23 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

Hopefully - I am doing this right - this is my first post.

I recently found Notify U.S. 
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tsapps.nist.gov_notifyus_data_home_home.cfm=DQIDaQ=clRTYxLjfWTYQkksq4Trqw=SuXR4v_cWDGps50Ob7OgG3eGvjdtolb5h84QBM8NxmY=IReRG-UxkmrJ8pyfltBE4hphRlWOTXCfdP53vklA2x4=urX8Yhg2scOT-Og6yRG5v1sZ5EbS7Klt5JP3l2bKbBU=
   which is run by the NIST in the Dept. Of Commerce and it notifies me of 
anything published by the WTO an others. You can filter it by field of interest 
and country. It is quite informative and free.

Here are the "fields of interest":

65  Agriculture
 49  Aircraft and Space Vehicle Engineering
 71  Chemical Technology
 93  Civil Engineering
 61  Clothing Industry
 CA  Conformity Assessment Procedures
 91  Construction Materials and Building
 97  Domestic and Commercial Equipment. Entertainment. Sports
 29  Electrical Engineering
 31  Electronics
 27  Energy and Heat Transfer Engineering
 13  Environment. Health Protection. Safety
 23  Fluid Systems and Components for General Use Measurement of fluid flow, 
see 17.120
 67  Food Technology
 01  Generalities. Terminology. Standardization. Documentation
 81  Glass and Ceramics Industries
 11  Health Care Technology
 37  Image Technology
 35  Information Technology. Office Machines
 25  Manufacturing Engineering
This field includes standards for general use
 53  Materials Handling Equipment
 07  Mathematics. Natural Sciences
 21  Mechanical Systems and Components for General Use
 77  Metallurgy
 95  Military Engineering
 73  Mining and Minerals
 55  Packaging and Distribution of Goods
 87  Paint and Colour Industries
 85  Paper Technology
 75  Petroleum and Related Technologies
 17  Physical Metrology and Measurement. Physical Phenomena
 39  Precision Mechanics. Jewellery
 45  Railway Engineering
 43  Road Vehicle Engineering
 83  Rubber and Plastics Industries
 47  Shipbuilding and Marine Structures
 03  Sociology. Services. Company Organization and Management. Administration. 
Transport
 33  Telecommunications. Audio and Video Engineering
 19  Testing
This field includes standards for general use only Analytical chemistry, see 
71.040
 59  Textile and Leather Technology
 79  Wood Technology

Thanks,

-Jamison

-Original Message-
From: Doug Powell [mailto:doug...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 2:53 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

Thanks, I'll check out DuckDuckGo, it sounds like it may have possibilities.  

I have looked at rss aggregators in the past.  It's kind of hard to find one 
that consolidates similar postings in multiple locations.  This also may be 
worth another look.

All the best. Doug. 


  Original Message
From: oconne...@tamuracorp.com
Sent: September 27, 2016 1:39 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Reply-to: oconne...@tamuracorp.com
Subject: Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

Distill will monitor selected pages, but is not very selective. And indiscrete 
browser plugins are not good for a corporate computer. You still need something 
to traverse the web and find new/alternate regulatory information. Related - 
there are commercial aggregation services for compliance engineers for $$$. And 
as for 'keywords' much of the SEO gaming will not allow a simplistic parsing 
for words or phrases to return reliable data sets.

Prefer the API for DuckDuckGo (duckduckgo.com/api) for search and url 
traversals, and if you wanna play code monkey, relatively easy to write 
'focused' crawlers that feed into parsers. My stuff is based on the common 
Python libs BeautifulSoup and scrapy. But this type of solution is useless to 
those not having a basic understanding of the insanity buried in a site's 
html/css/xml stuff.

The most common 'off-the-shelf' solutions, where there is no desire to code 
monkey, are to simply set up your mail client to suck on selected RSS feeds, or 
use 

Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

[Brian O'Connell]

There have been some consistency problems with this service, probably from 
usage of direct CSS url links and/or my stupid brute-force script, so my 
simple-minded approach is to have my crawler run the login(which has changed 
several times), then resolve the href-tagged links, then go from there to each 
notification page. Could be done manually, but all hail the power of 
beautifulsoup.

Have not used for very long time, but so far does seem to be a decent source of 
global regulatory information.

Brian

-Original Message-
From: Kortas, Jamison [mailto:jamison.kor...@ecolab.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 4:23 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

Hopefully - I am doing this right - this is my first post.

I recently found Notify U.S. 
https://tsapps.nist.gov/notifyus/data/home/home.cfm  which is run by the NIST 
in the Dept. Of Commerce and it notifies me of anything published by the WTO an 
others. You can filter it by field of interest and country. It is quite 
informative and free.

Here are the "fields of interest":

65  Agriculture
 49  Aircraft and Space Vehicle Engineering
 71  Chemical Technology
 93  Civil Engineering
 61  Clothing Industry
 CA  Conformity Assessment Procedures
 91  Construction Materials and Building
 97  Domestic and Commercial Equipment. Entertainment. Sports
 29  Electrical Engineering
 31  Electronics
 27  Energy and Heat Transfer Engineering
 13  Environment. Health Protection. Safety
 23  Fluid Systems and Components for General Use
Measurement of fluid flow, see 17.120
 67  Food Technology
 01  Generalities. Terminology. Standardization. Documentation
 81  Glass and Ceramics Industries
 11  Health Care Technology
 37  Image Technology
 35  Information Technology. Office Machines
 25  Manufacturing Engineering
This field includes standards for general use
 53  Materials Handling Equipment
 07  Mathematics. Natural Sciences
 21  Mechanical Systems and Components for General Use
 77  Metallurgy
 95  Military Engineering
 73  Mining and Minerals
 55  Packaging and Distribution of Goods
 87  Paint and Colour Industries
 85  Paper Technology
 75  Petroleum and Related Technologies
 17  Physical Metrology and Measurement. Physical Phenomena
 39  Precision Mechanics. Jewellery
 45  Railway Engineering
 43  Road Vehicle Engineering
 83  Rubber and Plastics Industries
 47  Shipbuilding and Marine Structures
 03  Sociology. Services. Company Organization and Management. Administration. 
Transport
 33  Telecommunications. Audio and Video Engineering
 19  Testing
This field includes standards for general use only
Analytical chemistry, see 71.040
 59  Textile and Leather Technology
 79  Wood Technology

Thanks,

-Jamison

-Original Message-
From: Doug Powell [mailto:doug...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 2:53 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

Thanks, I'll check out DuckDuckGo, it sounds like it may have possibilities.  

I have looked at rss aggregators in the past.  It's kind of hard to find one 
that consolidates similar postings in multiple locations.  This also may be 
worth another look.

All the best. Doug. 


  Original Message
From: oconne...@tamuracorp.com
Sent: September 27, 2016 1:39 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Reply-to: oconne...@tamuracorp.com
Subject: Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

Distill will monitor selected pages, but is not very selective. And indiscrete 
browser plugins are not good for a corporate computer. You still need something 
to traverse the web and find new/alternate regulatory information. Related - 
there are commercial aggregation services for compliance engineers for $$$. And 
as for 'keywords' much of the SEO gaming will not allow a simplistic parsing 
for words or phrases to return reliable data sets.

Prefer the API for DuckDuckGo (duckduckgo.com/api) for search and url 
traversals, and if you wanna play code monkey, relatively easy to write 
'focused' crawlers that feed into parsers. My stuff is based on the common 
Python libs BeautifulSoup and scrapy. But this type of solution is useless to 
those not having a basic understanding of the insanity buried in a site's 
html/css/xml stuff.

The most common 'off-the-shelf' solutions, where there is no desire to code 
monkey, are to simply set up your mail client to suck on selected RSS feeds, or 
use some other feed aggregator. Many sites used the recently discontinued Yahoo 
Pipes, so there may be blinky data streams for some pages for a few more weeks.

Make life easier? As my gunny used to say, "life is supposed to be hard, and 
then you die..."

Brian


From: Doug Powell [mailto:doug...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 10:43 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

Hi all,

I suspect there are many compliance engineers that do what I do.  Once in a 
while I skim the various public notices web pages for 

Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

[Kortas, Jamison]

Hopefully - I am doing this right - this is my first post.

I recently found Notify U.S. 
https://tsapps.nist.gov/notifyus/data/home/home.cfm  which is run by the NIST 
in the Dept. Of Commerce and it notifies me of anything published by the WTO an 
others. You can filter it by field of interest and country. It is quite 
informative and free.

Here are the "fields of interest":

65  Agriculture
 49  Aircraft and Space Vehicle Engineering
 71  Chemical Technology
 93  Civil Engineering
 61  Clothing Industry
 CA  Conformity Assessment Procedures
 91  Construction Materials and Building
 97  Domestic and Commercial Equipment. Entertainment. Sports
 29  Electrical Engineering
 31  Electronics
 27  Energy and Heat Transfer Engineering
 13  Environment. Health Protection. Safety
 23  Fluid Systems and Components for General Use
Measurement of fluid flow, see 17.120
 67  Food Technology
 01  Generalities. Terminology. Standardization. Documentation
 81  Glass and Ceramics Industries
 11  Health Care Technology
 37  Image Technology
 35  Information Technology. Office Machines
 25  Manufacturing Engineering
This field includes standards for general use
 53  Materials Handling Equipment
 07  Mathematics. Natural Sciences
 21  Mechanical Systems and Components for General Use
 77  Metallurgy
 95  Military Engineering
 73  Mining and Minerals
 55  Packaging and Distribution of Goods
 87  Paint and Colour Industries
 85  Paper Technology
 75  Petroleum and Related Technologies
 17  Physical Metrology and Measurement. Physical Phenomena
 39  Precision Mechanics. Jewellery
 45  Railway Engineering
 43  Road Vehicle Engineering
 83  Rubber and Plastics Industries
 47  Shipbuilding and Marine Structures
 03  Sociology. Services. Company Organization and Management. Administration. 
Transport
 33  Telecommunications. Audio and Video Engineering
 19  Testing
This field includes standards for general use only
Analytical chemistry, see 71.040
 59  Textile and Leather Technology
 79  Wood Technology

Thanks,

-Jamison

-Original Message-
From: Doug Powell [mailto:doug...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 2:53 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

Thanks, I'll check out DuckDuckGo, it sounds like it may have possibilities.  

I have looked at rss aggregators in the past.  It's kind of hard to find one 
that consolidates similar postings in multiple locations.  This also may be 
worth another look.

All the best. Doug. 


  Original Message
From: oconne...@tamuracorp.com
Sent: September 27, 2016 1:39 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Reply-to: oconne...@tamuracorp.com
Subject: Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

Distill will monitor selected pages, but is not very selective. And indiscrete 
browser plugins are not good for a corporate computer. You still need something 
to traverse the web and find new/alternate regulatory information. Related - 
there are commercial aggregation services for compliance engineers for $$$. And 
as for 'keywords' much of the SEO gaming will not allow a simplistic parsing 
for words or phrases to return reliable data sets.

Prefer the API for DuckDuckGo (duckduckgo.com/api) for search and url 
traversals, and if you wanna play code monkey, relatively easy to write 
'focused' crawlers that feed into parsers. My stuff is based on the common 
Python libs BeautifulSoup and scrapy. But this type of solution is useless to 
those not having a basic understanding of the insanity buried in a site's 
html/css/xml stuff.

The most common 'off-the-shelf' solutions, where there is no desire to code 
monkey, are to simply set up your mail client to suck on selected RSS feeds, or 
use some other feed aggregator. Many sites used the recently discontinued Yahoo 
Pipes, so there may be blinky data streams for some pages for a few more weeks.

Make life easier? As my gunny used to say, "life is supposed to be hard, and 
then you die..."

Brian


From: Doug Powell [mailto:doug...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 10:43 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

Hi all,

I suspect there are many compliance engineers that do what I do.  Once in a 
while I skim the various public notices web pages for the major certifying 
agencies to see if there is anything i should be aware of, although I am not 
very diligent about this.  I did find a collection of public notice pages and 
setup my web browser do the checking with the Distil app 
(https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__distill.io_=DQIDaQ=clRTYxLjfWTYQkksq4Trqw=SuXR4v_cWDGps50Ob7OgG3eGvjdtolb5h84QBM8NxmY=7QAVK8sQSuPDqZwUcSTjAhEEXqD8m4YKi7S5zSYVhac=sWEdW2ZS04aEuGoUxN2Npy5aUuh8R3jyR_oMV_YwIfM=
 ).  Alternatively if something suspicious shows up, a quick Google search with 
a few well conditioned keywords will sometimes bear fruit.

I was wondering if there are any resources available that provide a keyword 
searchable digest of all t

Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

[Doug Powell]

Thanks, I'll check out DuckDuckGo, it sounds like it may have possibilities.  

I have looked at rss aggregators in the past.  It's kind of hard to find one 
that consolidates similar postings in multiple locations.  This also may be 
worth another look.

All the best. Doug. 


  Original Message  
From: oconne...@tamuracorp.com
Sent: September 27, 2016 1:39 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Reply-to: oconne...@tamuracorp.com
Subject: Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

Distill will monitor selected pages, but is not very selective. And indiscrete 
browser plugins are not good for a corporate computer. You still need something 
to traverse the web and find new/alternate regulatory information. Related - 
there are commercial aggregation services for compliance engineers for $$$. And 
as for 'keywords' much of the SEO gaming will not allow a simplistic parsing 
for words or phrases to return reliable data sets.

Prefer the API for DuckDuckGo (duckduckgo.com/api) for search and url 
traversals, and if you wanna play code monkey, relatively easy to write 
'focused' crawlers that feed into parsers. My stuff is based on the common 
Python libs BeautifulSoup and scrapy. But this type of solution is useless to 
those not having a basic understanding of the insanity buried in a site's 
html/css/xml stuff.

The most common 'off-the-shelf' solutions, where there is no desire to code 
monkey, are to simply set up your mail client to suck on selected RSS feeds, or 
use some other feed aggregator. Many sites used the recently discontinued Yahoo 
Pipes, so there may be blinky data streams for some pages for a few more weeks.

Make life easier? As my gunny used to say, "life is supposed to be hard, and 
then you die..."

Brian


From: Doug Powell [mailto:doug...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 10:43 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

Hi all,

I suspect there are many compliance engineers that do what I do.  Once in a 
while I skim the various public notices web pages for the major certifying 
agencies to see if there is anything i should be aware of, although I am not 
very diligent about this.  I did find a collection of public notice pages and 
setup my web browser do the checking with the Distil app (https://distill.io/). 
 Alternatively if something suspicious shows up, a quick Google search with a 
few well conditioned keywords will sometimes bear fruit.

I was wondering if there are any resources available that provide a keyword 
searchable digest of all these diverse sources.  It would make life easier.

Thanks,  Doug

-- 

Douglas E Powell

doug...@gmail.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/dougp01

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Re: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

[Brian O'Connell]

Distill will monitor selected pages, but is not very selective. And indiscrete 
browser plugins are not good for a corporate computer. You still need something 
to traverse the web and find new/alternate regulatory information. Related - 
there are commercial aggregation services for compliance engineers for $$$. And 
as for 'keywords' much of the SEO gaming will not allow a simplistic parsing 
for words or phrases to return reliable data sets.

Prefer the API for DuckDuckGo (duckduckgo.com/api) for search and url 
traversals, and if you wanna play code monkey, relatively easy to write 
'focused' crawlers that feed into parsers. My stuff is based on the common 
Python libs BeautifulSoup and scrapy. But this type of solution is useless to 
those not having a basic understanding of the insanity buried in a site's 
html/css/xml stuff.

The most common 'off-the-shelf' solutions, where there is no desire to code 
monkey, are to simply set up your mail client to suck on selected RSS feeds, or 
use some other feed aggregator. Many sites used the recently discontinued Yahoo 
Pipes, so there may be blinky data streams for some pages for a few more weeks.

Make life easier? As my gunny used to say, "life is supposed to be hard, and 
then you die..."

Brian


From: Doug Powell [mailto:doug...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 10:43 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] Counterfeit tracking

Hi all,

I suspect there are many compliance engineers that do what I do.  Once in a 
while I skim the various public notices web pages for the major certifying 
agencies to see if there is anything i should be aware of, although I am not 
very diligent about this.  I did find a collection of public notice pages and 
setup my web browser do the checking with the Distil app (https://distill.io/). 
 Alternatively if something suspicious shows up, a quick Google search with a 
few well conditioned keywords will sometimes bear fruit.

I was wondering if there are any resources available that provide a keyword 
searchable digest of all these diverse sources.  It would make life easier.

Thanks,  Doug

-- 

Douglas E Powell

doug...@gmail.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/dougp01

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[PSES] Counterfeit tracking

[Doug Powell]

Hi all,

I suspect there are many compliance engineers that do what I do.  Once in a
while I skim the various public notices web pages for the major certifying
agencies to see if there is anything i should be aware of, although I am
not very diligent about this.  I did find a collection of public notice
pages and setup my web browser do the checking with the Distil app (
https://distill.io/).  Alternatively if something suspicious shows up, a
quick Google search with a few well conditioned keywords will sometimes
bear fruit.

I was wondering if there are any resources available that provide a keyword
searchable digest of all these diverse sources.  It would make life easier.

Thanks,  Doug



-- 

Douglas E Powell

doug...@gmail.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/dougp01

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http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used 
formats), large files, etc.

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