[PSES] FCC labelling
Dear colleagues. Many thanks to all those who replied to my query, in particular Bill Stumpf and Michael Derby. Always appreciated! Regards; Ian McBurney Design & Compliance Engineer. Allen & Heath Ltd. Kernick Industrial Estate, Penryn, Cornwall. TR10 9LU. UK T: 01326 372070 E: ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com Allen & Heath Ltd is a registered business in England and Wales, Company number: 4163451. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of the company. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail toAll emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
Re: [PSES] FCC labelling
Hi Ian, This is a useful link for you: https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/kdb/forms/FTSSearchResultPage.cfm?id=27980 <https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/kdb/forms/FTSSearchResultPage.cfm?id=27980 h=P> =P And in particular this one: <https://apps.fcc.gov/kdb/GetAttachment.html?id=gSc9BH6v7Z%2FdopMkplqCZQ%3D% 3D=784748%20D01%20Labelling%20Part%2015%2018%20Guidelines%20v08 g_number=27980> 784748 D01 Labelling Part 15 18 Guidelines v08 Michael. From: McBurney, Ian [mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com] Sent: 15 March 2017 16:05 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] FCC labelling Dear colleagues. I am looking into labelling a product as Class A for FCC Part 15 emission limits. The product will use the verification route to compliance. I would appreciate it if someone could let me know what labelling will be required on the product and the text required in the user documentation. I am familiar with Class B labelling but would like to know the difference for Class A. Many thanks in advance. Ian McBurney Design & Compliance Engineer. Allen & Heath Ltd. Kernick Industrial Estate, Penryn, Cornwall. TR10 9LU. UK T: 01326 372070 E: ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com <mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com> Allen & Heath Ltd is a registered business in England and Wales, Company number: 4163451. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of the company. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org <mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org> > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) <http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org <mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org> > Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org <mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org> > For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <j.bac...@ieee.org <mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org> > David Heald <dhe...@gmail.com <mailto:dhe...@gmail.com> > - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com>
[PSES] FCC labelling
Dear colleagues. I am looking into labelling a product as Class A for FCC Part 15 emission limits. The product will use the verification route to compliance. I would appreciate it if someone could let me know what labelling will be required on the product and the text required in the user documentation. I am familiar with Class B labelling but would like to know the difference for Class A. Many thanks in advance. Ian McBurney Design & Compliance Engineer. Allen & Heath Ltd. Kernick Industrial Estate, Penryn, Cornwall. TR10 9LU. UK T: 01326 372070 E: ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com Allen & Heath Ltd is a registered business in England and Wales, Company number: 4163451. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of the company. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail toAll emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
Re: [PSES] FCC Labelling
I would also like to confirm and agree with Ian. He is absolutely right. I see many instances where verified equipment has the FCC symbol incorrectly used on products clearly not under the SDoC scheme. This is in my view the most incorrectly used Regulatory symbol used today ! Rodney Davis From: Michael Derby <micha...@acbcert.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 8:06 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] FCC Labelling Hi Ian, You are almost correct. The FCC’s logo is only for devices which have been authorised under the DoC process. Devices which have verification or certification, do not show the FCC logo. Of course, if there is a mixture of authorisation routes and one of them is DoC, then the logo will appear. For example, a device which has some certification and also a DoC, would show the logo. The topic is included in a recent ‘New Proposed Rule Change’ document from the FCC for future change consideration; but right now it is only for use on DoC authorised devices. Thanks, Michael. From: McBurney, Ian [mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com] Sent: 27 October 2015 11:53 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] FCC Labelling Dear colleagues; I know this question has been asked before but would I be correct in stating that under the FCC labelling requirements that if a product is deemed compliant in the Verification category for an unintentional radiator that it is not permitted to mark the product with the FCC mark but you must apply the statement “ This device complies with Part 15 of the FCC Rules. Operation is subject to the following two conditions: (1) this device may not cause harmful interference, and (2) this device must accept any interference received, including interference that may cause undesired operation.” >From my understanding; in the unintentional radiator subpart only products in >the Declaration of Conformity or Certification categories can apply the FCC >mark to a product or its documentation. Many thanks in advance. Ian McBurney Design & Compliance Engineer. Allen & Heath Ltd. Allen & Heath Ltd is a registered business in England and Wales, Company number: 4163451. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of the company. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org<mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)<http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org<mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org>> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org<mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org>> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <j.bac...@ieee.org<mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org>> David Heald <dhe...@gmail.com<mailto:dhe...@gmail.com>> - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org<mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)<http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org<mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org>> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org<mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org>> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <j.bac...@ieee.org<mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org>> David Heald <dhe...@gmail.com<mailto:dhe...@gmail.com>> NOTE: This e-mail (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is confidential and/or protected by legal privilege. Any unauthorized review, use, copy, disclosure or distribution of this e-mail is strictly prohibited.
[PSES] FCC Labelling
Dear colleagues; I know this question has been asked before but would I be correct in stating that under the FCC labelling requirements that if a product is deemed compliant in the Verification category for an unintentional radiator that it is not permitted to mark the product with the FCC mark but you must apply the statement " This device complies with Part 15 of the FCC Rules. Operation is subject to the following two conditions: (1) this device may not cause harmful interference, and (2) this device must accept any interference received, including interference that may cause undesired operation." >From my understanding; in the unintentional radiator subpart only products in >the Declaration of Conformity or Certification categories can apply the FCC >mark to a product or its documentation. Many thanks in advance. Ian McBurney Design & Compliance Engineer. Allen & Heath Ltd. Allen & Heath Ltd is a registered business in England and Wales, Company number: 4163451. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of the company. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail toAll emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
Re: [PSES] FCC Labelling
Hi Ian, You are almost correct. The FCC's logo is only for devices which have been authorised under the DoC process. Devices which have verification or certification, do not show the FCC logo. Of course, if there is a mixture of authorisation routes and one of them is DoC, then the logo will appear. For example, a device which has some certification and also a DoC, would show the logo. The topic is included in a recent 'New Proposed Rule Change' document from the FCC for future change consideration; but right now it is only for use on DoC authorised devices. Thanks, Michael. From: McBurney, Ian [mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com] Sent: 27 October 2015 11:53 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] FCC Labelling Dear colleagues; I know this question has been asked before but would I be correct in stating that under the FCC labelling requirements that if a product is deemed compliant in the Verification category for an unintentional radiator that it is not permitted to mark the product with the FCC mark but you must apply the statement " This device complies with Part 15 of the FCC Rules. Operation is subject to the following two conditions: (1) this device may not cause harmful interference, and (2) this device must accept any interference received, including interference that may cause undesired operation." >From my understanding; in the unintentional radiator subpart only products in the Declaration of Conformity or Certification categories can apply the FCC mark to a product or its documentation. Many thanks in advance. Ian McBurney Design & Compliance Engineer. Allen & Heath Ltd. Allen & Heath Ltd is a registered business in England and Wales, Company number: 4163451. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of the company. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org <mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org> > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) <http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org <mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org> > Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org <mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org> > For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <j.bac...@ieee.org <mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org> > David Heald <dhe...@gmail.com <mailto:dhe...@gmail.com> > - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com>
Re: [PSES] FCC Labelling
The FCC logo is only used for products approved under the Declaration of Conformity process. It is not used for Certification or Verification. Ghery S. Pettit Pettit EMC Consulting LLC gh...@pettitemcconsulting.com From: McBurney, Ian [mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 4:53 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] FCC Labelling Dear colleagues; I know this question has been asked before but would I be correct in stating that under the FCC labelling requirements that if a product is deemed compliant in the Verification category for an unintentional radiator that it is not permitted to mark the product with the FCC mark but you must apply the statement " This device complies with Part 15 of the FCC Rules. Operation is subject to the following two conditions: (1) this device may not cause harmful interference, and (2) this device must accept any interference received, including interference that may cause undesired operation." >From my understanding; in the unintentional radiator subpart only products in the Declaration of Conformity or Certification categories can apply the FCC mark to a product or its documentation. Many thanks in advance. Ian McBurney Design & Compliance Engineer. Allen & Heath Ltd. Allen & Heath Ltd is a registered business in England and Wales, Company number: 4163451. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of the company. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) <http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald <dhe...@gmail.com> - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com>
[PSES] FCC labelling
Dear Colleagues; I'm sure this question has been asked before but I can't remember the answer. My question concerns FCC labelling spare PCB assemblies. These can be multilayer high speed processor boards shipped as spares to be fitted into equipment that is already FCC labelled. Would the packaging or PCB assembly have to be FCC labelled if the part were being shipped from outside the USA? The spare assembly can only be used in our own equipment. Many thanks in advance. Ian McBurney Design Engineer Allen Heath Ltd Kernick Industrial Estate Penryn, Cornwall TR10 9LU United Kingdom +44 (0)1326 370121 ian.mcbur...@dmh-global.commailto:ian.mcbur...@dmh-global.com www.allen-heath.comhttp://www.allen-heath.com/ A DMH Pro Companyhttp://www.dmh-global.com/. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com