[PSES] FW: [PSES] Non-NRTL Field Inspection Service Provider in the Michigan / Midwest Region

2023-03-24 Thread Richard Nute
 

FYI.

 

From: Roland Gutzky  
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Subject: FW: [PSES] Non-NRTL Field Inspection Service Provider in the Michigan 
/ Midwest Region

 

Hi Folks,

 

One of my colleagues passed this thread to me as he follows the server on IEEE.

 

I am the person at Eurofins MET Labs that represents our field evaluation 
service.  Is there some information that I can provide for you (happy to have a 
call to assist)? 

 

Roland Gutzky

Senior Sales Executive

Eurofins Electrical and Electronic Testing NA, Inc.

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Hi Charlie:

 

>From my reading of the FEB requirements, I suspect the AHJs have the lists.

 

Best regards,

Rich

 

 

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Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2023 12:38 AM
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Subject: RE: [PSES] Non-NRTL Field Inspection Service Provider in the Michigan 
/ Midwest Region

 

Rich

 

I’m looking at a similar project myself

 

>The FEB must be acceptable to the AHJ in the region where the equipment is to 
>be installed.

 

Are there published lists anywhere, or is it a case of asking the relevant AHJ?

 

Best regards

Charlie

 

Charlie Blackham

Sulis Consultants Ltd

Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317

Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ 

Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247

 

From: Richard Nute mailto:ri...@ieee.org> > 
Sent: 22 February 2023 23:33
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> 
Subject: Re: [PSES] Non-NRTL Field Inspection Service Provider in the Michigan 
/ Midwest Region

 

 

Hi Carl:

 

I’m not able to identify candidate FEBs as you requested.  Most NRTLs, small to 
large, also are FEBs.  I only found one accredited FEB who wasn’t an NRTL, SGS 
in Switzerland (a very big company).  

 

Here is a good and complete (straight-forward) explanation of the field 
inspection service in the USA and Canada:

 

https://metlabs.com/services/on-site-field-testing-and-evaluation/field-inspection-frequently-asked-questions/

 

Here is one of the field evaluation body, FEB, accreditation schemes:

 

https://www.iasonline.org/services/field-evaluation-bodies/

 

The FEB must be acceptable to the AHJ in the region where the equipment is to 
be installed.

 

Rich

 

 

 


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Re: [PSES] Non-NRTL Field Inspection Service Provider in the Michigan / Midwest Region

2023-02-27 Thread Doug Nix
Hi All,

In Canada, the list of accredited inspection bodies can be found on the 
Standards Council of Canada website: 
https://www.scc.ca/en/accreditation/programs/inspection-bodies/directory

Doug Nix
d...@ieee.org
+1 (519) 729-5704

> On Feb 24, 2023, at 14:26, emcl...@gmail.com  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for your help Richard.  I have an excellent contact at MET and I've 
> referred her to this friend.  This is good info.
> 
> It's been many years (decades) since I've dealt with the differences in 
> provincial code requirements, but I'm aware of the fact that's a pitfall to 
> watch out for.
> 
> Carl
> 
> 
> -- Original Message --
> From "Richard Nute" mailto:ri...@ieee.org>>
> To EMC-PSTC@listserv.ieee.org <mailto:EMC-PSTC@listserv.ieee.org>
> Date 2/22/2023 6:33:12 PM
> Subject Re: [PSES] Non-NRTL Field Inspection Service Provider in the Michigan 
> / Midwest Region
> 
>>  
>> Hi Carl:
>>  
>> I’m not able to identify candidate FEBs as you requested.  Most NRTLs, small 
>> to large, also are FEBs.  I only found one accredited FEB who wasn’t an 
>> NRTL, SGS in Switzerland (a very big company).  
>>  
>> Here is a good and complete (straight-forward) explanation of the field 
>> inspection service in the USA and Canada:
>>  
>> https://metlabs.com/services/on-site-field-testing-and-evaluation/field-inspection-frequently-asked-questions/
>>  
>> Here is one of the field evaluation body, FEB, accreditation schemes:
>>  
>> https://www.iasonline.org/services/field-evaluation-bodies/
>>  
>> The FEB must be acceptable to the AHJ in the region where the equipment is 
>> to be installed.
>>  
>> Rich
>>  
>>  
>> From: emcl...@gmail.com <mailto:emcl...@gmail.com> > <mailto:emcl...@gmail.com>> 
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2023 2:16 PM
>> To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
>> Subject: [PSES] Non-NRTL Field Inspection Service Provider in the Michigan / 
>> Midwest Region
>>  
>> A friend asked me if I could refer him to a field inspection service 
>> provider for computer/ITE products intended for use within factory 
>> environments.  I'm aware that the major NRTLs offer this service apart from 
>> their NRTL accreditation, so I'm asking for other referrals for smaller 
>> service providers.
>>  
>> The scope is for USA and Canadian installations and this company would like 
>> that source to provide engineering review of the product in question in 
>> advance of the inspection, as well as the inspection itself and tag as 
>> needed.
>>  
>> Thanks in advance,
>>  
>> Carl
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Re: [PSES] Non-NRTL Field Inspection Service Provider in the Michigan / Midwest Region

2023-02-24 Thread emcl...@gmail.com
Thanks for your help Richard.  I have an excellent contact at MET and 
I've referred her to this friend.  This is good info.


It's been many years (decades) since I've dealt with the differences in 
provincial code requirements, but I'm aware of the fact that's a pitfall 
to watch out for.


Carl


-- Original Message --

From "Richard Nute" 

To EMC-PSTC@listserv.ieee.org
Date 2/22/2023 6:33:12 PM
Subject Re: [PSES] Non-NRTL Field Inspection Service Provider in the 
Michigan / Midwest Region





Hi Carl:



I’m not able to identify candidate FEBs as you requested.  Most NRTLs, 
small to large, also are FEBs.  I only found one accredited FEB who 
wasn’t an NRTL, SGS in Switzerland (a very big company).




Here is a good and complete (straight-forward) explanation of the field 
inspection service in the USA and Canada:




https://metlabs.com/services/on-site-field-testing-and-evaluation/field-inspection-frequently-asked-questions/



Here is one of the field evaluation body, FEB, accreditation schemes:



https://www.iasonline.org/services/field-evaluation-bodies/



The FEB must be acceptable to the AHJ in the region where the equipment 
is to be installed.




Rich





From:emcl...@gmail.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2023 2:16 PM
To:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] Non-NRTL Field Inspection Service Provider in the 
Michigan / Midwest Region




A friend asked me if I could refer him to a field inspection service 
provider for computer/ITE products intended for use within factory 
environments.  I'm aware that the major NRTLs offer this service apart 
from their NRTL accreditation, so I'm asking for other referrals for 
smaller service providers.




The scope is for USA and Canadian installations and this company would 
like that source to provide engineering review of the product in 
question in advance of the inspection, as well as the inspection itself 
and tag as needed.




Thanks in advance,



Carl


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Re: [PSES] Non-NRTL Field Inspection Service Provider in the Michigan / Midwest Region

2023-02-23 Thread Gary Tornquist
Hi Charlie and RIch,
I ran across a Field Evaluator named ETI Conformity Services eti Conformity 
Services <https://www.eticonformity.com/en-us/>  that is accepted by AHJ’s in 
Seattle and other areas.  They had accreditation from International 
Accreditation Services, which I hadn’t heard of before

IAS: Field Evaluation Body Accreditation (iasonline.org) 
<https://www.iasonline.org/services/field-evaluation-bodies/> 

This website has a search function that claims to find organizations by 
location to fit your needs.

 

This is new to me, I thought only NRTL’s or their subcontractors could do Field 
Evaluations.   Am I the only one in the dark?  

 

Cheers,
Gary Tornquist

 

 

 

From: Richard Nute  
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2023 10:01 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Non-NRTL Field Inspection Service Provider in the Michigan 
/ Midwest Region

 

 

 

Hi Charlie:

 

>From my reading of the FEB requirements, I suspect the AHJs have the lists.

 

Best regards,

Rich

 

 

From: Charlie Blackham mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com> > 
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2023 12:38 AM
To: ri...@ieee.org <mailto:ri...@ieee.org> ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG 
<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> 
Subject: RE: [PSES] Non-NRTL Field Inspection Service Provider in the Michigan 
/ Midwest Region

 

Rich

 

I’m looking at a similar project myself

 

>The FEB must be acceptable to the AHJ in the region where the equipment is to 
>be installed.

 

Are there published lists anywhere, or is it a case of asking the relevant AHJ?

 

Best regards

Charlie

 

Charlie Blackham

Sulis Consultants Ltd

Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317

Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ 

Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247

 

From: Richard Nute mailto:ri...@ieee.org> > 
Sent: 22 February 2023 23:33
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> 
Subject: Re: [PSES] Non-NRTL Field Inspection Service Provider in the Michigan 
/ Midwest Region

 

 

Hi Carl:

 

I’m not able to identify candidate FEBs as you requested.  Most NRTLs, small to 
large, also are FEBs.  I only found one accredited FEB who wasn’t an NRTL, SGS 
in Switzerland (a very big company).  

 

Here is a good and complete (straight-forward) explanation of the field 
inspection service in the USA and Canada:

 

https://metlabs.com/services/on-site-field-testing-and-evaluation/field-inspection-frequently-asked-questions/

 

Here is one of the field evaluation body, FEB, accreditation schemes:

 

https://www.iasonline.org/services/field-evaluation-bodies/

 

The FEB must be acceptable to the AHJ in the region where the equipment is to 
be installed.

 

Rich

 

 

 

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Re: [PSES] Non-NRTL Field Inspection Service Provider in the Michigan / Midwest Region

2023-02-23 Thread Richard Nute
 

 

Hi Charlie:

 

>From my reading of the FEB requirements, I suspect the AHJs have the lists.

 

Best regards,

Rich

 

 

From: Charlie Blackham  
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2023 12:38 AM
To: ri...@ieee.org; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: [PSES] Non-NRTL Field Inspection Service Provider in the Michigan 
/ Midwest Region

 

Rich

 

I’m looking at a similar project myself

 

>The FEB must be acceptable to the AHJ in the region where the equipment is to 
>be installed.

 

Are there published lists anywhere, or is it a case of asking the relevant AHJ?

 

Best regards

Charlie

 

Charlie Blackham

Sulis Consultants Ltd

Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317

Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ 

Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247

 

From: Richard Nute mailto:ri...@ieee.org> > 
Sent: 22 February 2023 23:33
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> 
Subject: Re: [PSES] Non-NRTL Field Inspection Service Provider in the Michigan 
/ Midwest Region

 

 

Hi Carl:

 

I’m not able to identify candidate FEBs as you requested.  Most NRTLs, small to 
large, also are FEBs.  I only found one accredited FEB who wasn’t an NRTL, SGS 
in Switzerland (a very big company).  

 

Here is a good and complete (straight-forward) explanation of the field 
inspection service in the USA and Canada:

 

https://metlabs.com/services/on-site-field-testing-and-evaluation/field-inspection-frequently-asked-questions/

 

Here is one of the field evaluation body, FEB, accreditation schemes:

 

https://www.iasonline.org/services/field-evaluation-bodies/

 

The FEB must be acceptable to the AHJ in the region where the equipment is to 
be installed.

 

Rich

 

 


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Re: [PSES] Non-NRTL Field Inspection Service Provider in the Michigan / Midwest Region

2023-02-23 Thread Charlie Blackham
Rich

I’m looking at a similar project myself

>The FEB must be acceptable to the AHJ in the region where the equipment is to 
>be installed.

Are there published lists anywhere, or is it a case of asking the relevant AHJ?

Best regards
Charlie

Charlie Blackham
Sulis Consultants Ltd
Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317
Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/
Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247

From: Richard Nute 
Sent: 22 February 2023 23:33
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Non-NRTL Field Inspection Service Provider in the Michigan 
/ Midwest Region


Hi Carl:

I’m not able to identify candidate FEBs as you requested.  Most NRTLs, small to 
large, also are FEBs.  I only found one accredited FEB who wasn’t an NRTL, SGS 
in Switzerland (a very big company).

Here is a good and complete (straight-forward) explanation of the field 
inspection service in the USA and Canada:

https://metlabs.com/services/on-site-field-testing-and-evaluation/field-inspection-frequently-asked-questions/

Here is one of the field evaluation body, FEB, accreditation schemes:

https://www.iasonline.org/services/field-evaluation-bodies/

The FEB must be acceptable to the AHJ in the region where the equipment is to 
be installed.

Rich


From: emcl...@gmail.com<mailto:emcl...@gmail.com> 
mailto:emcl...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2023 2:16 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
Subject: [PSES] Non-NRTL Field Inspection Service Provider in the Michigan / 
Midwest Region

A friend asked me if I could refer him to a field inspection service provider 
for computer/ITE products intended for use within factory environments.  I'm 
aware that the major NRTLs offer this service apart from their NRTL 
accreditation, so I'm asking for other referrals for smaller service providers.

The scope is for USA and Canadian installations and this company would like 
that source to provide engineering review of the product in question in advance 
of the inspection, as well as the inspection itself and tag as needed.

Thanks in advance,

Carl
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Re: [PSES] Non-NRTL Field Inspection Service Provider in the Michigan / Midwest Region

2023-02-22 Thread Richard Nute
 

Hi Carl:

 

I’m not able to identify candidate FEBs as you requested.  Most NRTLs, small to 
large, also are FEBs.  I only found one accredited FEB who wasn’t an NRTL, SGS 
in Switzerland (a very big company).  

 

Here is a good and complete (straight-forward) explanation of the field 
inspection service in the USA and Canada:

 

https://metlabs.com/services/on-site-field-testing-and-evaluation/field-inspection-frequently-asked-questions/

 

Here is one of the field evaluation body, FEB, accreditation schemes:

 

https://www.iasonline.org/services/field-evaluation-bodies/

 

The FEB must be acceptable to the AHJ in the region where the equipment is to 
be installed.

 

Rich

 

 

From: emcl...@gmail.com  
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2023 2:16 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] Non-NRTL Field Inspection Service Provider in the Michigan / 
Midwest Region

 

A friend asked me if I could refer him to a field inspection service provider 
for computer/ITE products intended for use within factory environments.  I'm 
aware that the major NRTLs offer this service apart from their NRTL 
accreditation, so I'm asking for other referrals for smaller service providers.

 

The scope is for USA and Canadian installations and this company would like 
that source to provide engineering review of the product in question in advance 
of the inspection, as well as the inspection itself and tag as needed.

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Carl


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[PSES] Non-NRTL Field Inspection Service Provider in the Michigan / Midwest Region

2023-02-22 Thread emcl...@gmail.com
A friend asked me if I could refer him to a field inspection service 
provider for computer/ITE products intended for use within factory 
environments.  I'm aware that the major NRTLs offer this service apart 
from their NRTL accreditation, so I'm asking for other referrals for 
smaller service providers.


The scope is for USA and Canadian installations and this company would 
like that source to provide engineering review of the product in 
question in advance of the inspection, as well as the inspection itself 
and tag as needed.


Thanks in advance,

Carl

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