[PSES] TCBs FCC Shut Down
I need some advice and information, please. What constitutes a grant of certification from a TCB? 1. Posting on the FCC web site, which is now shut down, until it isn't.. 2. Technical evaluation review completed, with something in writing indicating it's OK to ship. 3. Any other method? Chapter verse of the source would be appreciated. 4. Following the certification, there's a C2PC for co-location that's required. We, as with many many others have been affected by the shut down are looking for solutions. Are the TCBs acting in unison on this one, or should we be shopping around? Many thanks in advance for your support. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] TCBs FCC Shut Down
Number 1, no other way. If it is not recognized/listed by the FCC it is not considered granted by the FCC. From: FW Miller [mailto:f_w_mil...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:32 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] TCBs FCC Shut Down I need some advice and information, please. What constitutes a grant of certification from a TCB? 1. Posting on the FCC web site, which is now shut down, until it isn't.. 2. Technical evaluation review completed, with something in writing indicating it's OK to ship. 3. Any other method? Chapter verse of the source would be appreciated. 4. Following the certification, there's a C2PC for co-location that's required. We, as with many many others have been affected by the shut down are looking for solutions. Are the TCBs acting in unison on this one, or should we be shopping around? Many thanks in advance for your support. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] TCBs FCC Shut Down
Hello, A Grant of certification may be sent to you by the TCB but it comes from the FCC and their website. It is an FCC Grant, not a TCB Grant. The FCC website is down, so nothing can be granted or certified; not by any TCB. You can submit an application to a TCB and most likely they will perform the review for you. I know we are still reviewing applications and working with manufacturers, despite the shutdown. You can proceed to work with the TCB to resolve any issues with your application. If your application requires a KDB enquiry or a PBA, it will not be possible to complete that stage because that requires the FCC website. It will also not be possible to complete the certification. The TCB cannot give you an It's ok to ship voucher. That would not be a good thing. C2PCs are an application process also.Again, if you wish to have a C2PC done, the TCB can help to review it but it cannot be completed or 'authorised'. Yes, many have been affected by this, especially the TCBs of course, but also the test labs, manufacturers and employees of the FCC. All TCBs are in the same boat on this. None of us can certify but all of us could help to do the initial review. So, I think the shopping around idea is no different now, to how it was before. I hope this helps, Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: FW Miller [mailto:f_w_mil...@yahoo.com] Sent: 02 October 2013 19:32 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] TCBs FCC Shut Down I need some advice and information, please. What constitutes a grant of certification from a TCB? 1. Posting on the FCC web site, which is now shut down, until it isn't.. 2. Technical evaluation review completed, with something in writing indicating it's OK to ship. 3. Any other method? Chapter verse of the source would be appreciated. 4. Following the certification, there's a C2PC for co-location that's required. We, as with many many others have been affected by the shut down are looking for solutions. Are the TCBs acting in unison on this one, or should we be shopping around? Many thanks in advance for your support. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] TCBs FCC Shut Down
A device is not considered certified (granted) until a grant is issued by the FCC website. If there is no issued grant then there is no certification period. Sent from my iPad On Oct 2, 2013, at 11:31 AM, FW Miller f_w_mil...@yahoo.com wrote: I need some advice and information, please. What constitutes a grant of certification from a TCB? 1. Posting on the FCC web site, which is now shut down, until it isn't.. 2. Technical evaluation review completed, with something in writing indicating it's OK to ship. 3. Any other method? Chapter verse of the source would be appreciated. 4. Following the certification, there's a C2PC for co-location that's required. We, as with many many others have been affected by the shut down are looking for solutions. Are the TCBs acting in unison on this one, or should we be shopping around? Many thanks in advance for your support. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] TCBs FCC Shut Down
To be more specific – a TCB does not actually issue a grant, even though it has their name on it as the TCB. Only the FCC can issue a legal grant of equipment authorization and no device, except under the special conditions of marketing in part 2, can be sold or offered for sale, used or turned on without a grant in place. All TCBs should know and understand this and should inform an inquirer of the same thing. If a TCB says otherwise, then they either do not understand their role and the rules, or there is another reason for misleading the questioner. Thanks Dennis Ward Senior Certification Engineer PCTEST This communication and its attachments contain information from PCTEST Engineering Laboratory, Inc., and is intended for the exclusive use of the recipient (s) named above. It may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. Any unauthorized use that may compromise that confidentiality via distribution or disclosure is prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately if you receive this communication in error, and delete it from your computer system. Usage of PCTEST email addresses for non-business related activities is strictly prohibited. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. Thank you. From: Dwardpctest [mailto:dw...@pctestlab.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 12:11 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] TCBs FCC Shut Down A device is not considered certified (granted) until a grant is issued by the FCC website. If there is no issued grant then there is no certification period. Sent from my iPad On Oct 2, 2013, at 11:31 AM, FW Miller f_w_mil...@yahoo.com wrote: I need some advice and information, please. What constitutes a grant of certification from a TCB? 1. Posting on the FCC web site, which is now shut down, until it isn't.. 2. Technical evaluation review completed, with something in writing indicating it's OK to ship. 3. Any other method? Chapter verse of the source would be appreciated. 4. Following the certification, there's a C2PC for co-location that's required. We, as with many many others have been affected by the shut down are looking for solutions. Are the TCBs acting in unison on this one, or should we be shopping around? Many thanks in advance for your support. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail
