Re: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] Re: [PSES] Which Safety Test Agency Reports are accepted by City of LA Test Lab (please provide text of requirement or code)

2016-11-23 Thread Ted Eckert 
Hello Leo,

Let me bring up something that may already be addressed by your customer. Large 
medical devices will likely need to meet OSHPD requirements.
http://www.oshpd.ca.gov/FDD/seismic_compliance/
I previously worked for a company that manufactured 19 inch equipment racks and 
computer room air conditioners. These racks had to be reviewed for their 
seismic stability to be used in health-care environments in California. OSHPD 
doesn’t want medical equipment or support equipment in a hospital failing 
because it can’t handle the shaking of an earthquake.

The racks and air conditioners my previous customer used UL as their NRTL and 
this was sufficient for Los Angeles. The city has some differences in their 
mechanical code, but that would only affect your equipment if it has cooling 
water connections or such similar features.

Ted Eckert
Microsoft Corporation

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From: Gary McInturff [mailto:gary.mcintu...@esterline.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 11:24 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] Re: [PSES] Which Safety Test Agency Reports are 
accepted by City of LA Test Lab (please provide text of requirement or code)

It was always my impression way back then that the case was if you had no NRTL 
then you had to have a LA investigation for items within its jurisdiction. Of 
course back then the only NRTL was UL as defined by the NEC(?). Several now 
appear.
I could have that backwards.

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Hi Leo:

LA requires NRTL certification.  (I saw no reference to the city test lab which 
LA has had in the past.)
https://www.municode.com/library/ca/los_angeles_county/codes/code_of_ordinances?nodeId=TIT27ELCO_ART83REINETMA

Rich


From: Leo Eisner [mailto:l...@eisnersafety.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 11:22 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] Which Safety Test Agency Reports are accepted by City of LA 
Test Lab (please provide text of requirement or code)

Hi All,

I am working with a client that will be installing a pretty big medical device 
in various types of locations across the country and so they want to make sure 
to meet all city and state electrical codes.  From my memory of when I used to 
work at UL many many years ago I remember that City of LA has a test lab and 
they won’t just take anyone’s test reports but they I believe accepted some of 
the NRTL test reports.  Does anyone have any info on this detail and also if 
there is a written requirement or language on this specific issue.  A weblink 
or a reference to a City of LA code or similar would be really great to get too.

Thx much,

Leonard (Leo) Eisner, P.E.
Principal Consultant, Eisner Safety Consultants
Phone: (503) 244-6151
Mobile: (503) 709-8328
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Re: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] Re: [PSES] Which Safety Test Agency Reports are accepted by City of LA Test Lab (please provide text of requirement or code)

2016-11-23 Thread Gary McInturff 
It was always my impression way back then that the case was if you had no NRTL 
then you had to have a LA investigation for items within its jurisdiction. Of 
course back then the only NRTL was UL as defined by the NEC(?). Several now 
appear.
I could have that backwards.

From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org]
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 11:10 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [PSES] Which Safety Test Agency Reports are accepted by 
City of LA Test Lab (please provide text of requirement or code)


Hi Leo:

LA requires NRTL certification.  (I saw no reference to the city test lab which 
LA has had in the past.)
https://www.municode.com/library/ca/los_angeles_county/codes/code_of_ordinances?nodeId=TIT27ELCO_ART83REINETMA

Rich


From: Leo Eisner [mailto:l...@eisnersafety.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 11:22 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] Which Safety Test Agency Reports are accepted by City of LA 
Test Lab (please provide text of requirement or code)

Hi All,

I am working with a client that will be installing a pretty big medical device 
in various types of locations across the country and so they want to make sure 
to meet all city and state electrical codes.  From my memory of when I used to 
work at UL many many years ago I remember that City of LA has a test lab and 
they won’t just take anyone’s test reports but they I believe accepted some of 
the NRTL test reports.  Does anyone have any info on this detail and also if 
there is a written requirement or language on this specific issue.  A weblink 
or a reference to a City of LA code or similar would be really great to get too.

Thx much,

Leonard (Leo) Eisner, P.E.
Principal Consultant, Eisner Safety Consultants
Phone: (503) 244-6151
Mobile: (503) 709-8328
Email: l...@eisnersafety.com
Website: 
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Re: [PSES] Which Safety Test Agency Reports are accepted by City of LA Test Lab (please provide text of requirement or code)

2016-11-23 Thread Richard Nute 
 

Hi Leo:

 

LA requires NRTL certification.  (I saw no reference to the city test lab which 
LA has had in the past.)

https://www.municode.com/library/ca/los_angeles_county/codes/code_of_ordinances?nodeId=TIT27ELCO_ART83REINETMA

 

Rich

 

 

From: Leo Eisner [mailto:l...@eisnersafety.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 11:22 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] Which Safety Test Agency Reports are accepted by City of LA 
Test Lab (please provide text of requirement or code)

 

Hi All,

 

I am working with a client that will be installing a pretty big medical device 
in various types of locations across the country and so they want to make sure 
to meet all city and state electrical codes.  From my memory of when I used to 
work at UL many many years ago I remember that City of LA has a test lab and 
they won’t just take anyone’s test reports but they I believe accepted some of 
the NRTL test reports.  Does anyone have any info on this detail and also if 
there is a written requirement or language on this specific issue.  A weblink 
or a reference to a City of LA code or similar would be really great to get too.

 

Thx much,

 

Leonard (Leo) Eisner, P.E.
Principal Consultant, Eisner Safety Consultants
Phone: (503) 244-6151
Mobile: (503) 709-8328
Email: l...@eisnersafety.com  
Website: www.EisnerSafety.com  
 




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Re: [PSES] Which Safety Test Agency Reports are accepted by City of LA Test Lab (please provide text of requirement or code)

2016-11-23 Thread John Allen 
Hi Leo,

If it you're planing on Field Labeling, the City of LA requires the labels be 
applied on site and you must contact the electrical inspector and invite him to 
the inspection.  Other cities in CA are moving in that direction as well.

Best Regards,

John

John Allen | President
Product Safety Consulting, Inc.
Your Outsourced Compliance Department
www.productsafetyinc.com
630-238-0188

On Nov 23, 2016, at 4:35 AM, Kevin Robinson 
> wrote:

Hi Leo,

The City of LA maintains an online list of laboratories that can be viewed here 
http://www.ladbs.org/services/core-services/plan-check-permit/product-approval/electrical-test-lab.

Kevin Robinson

On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 2:21 AM, Leo Eisner 
> wrote:
Hi All,

I am working with a client that will be installing a pretty big medical device 
in various types of locations across the country and so they want to make sure 
to meet all city and state electrical codes.  From my memory of when I used to 
work at UL many many years ago I remember that City of LA has a test lab and 
they won't just take anyone's test reports but they I believe accepted some of 
the NRTL test reports.  Does anyone have any info on this detail and also if 
there is a written requirement or language on this specific issue.  A weblink 
or a reference to a City of LA code or similar would be really great to get too.

Thx much,

Leonard (Leo) Eisner, P.E.
Principal Consultant, Eisner Safety Consultants
Phone: (503) 244-6151
Mobile: (503) 709-8328
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Re: [PSES] Which Safety Test Agency Reports are accepted by City of LA Test Lab (please provide text of requirement or code)

2016-11-23 Thread Kevin Robinson 
Hi Leo,

The City of LA maintains an online list of laboratories that can be viewed
here
http://www.ladbs.org/services/core-services/plan-check-permit/product-approval/electrical-test-lab
.

Kevin Robinson

On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 2:21 AM, Leo Eisner  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I am working with a client that will be installing a pretty big medical
> device in various types of locations across the country and so they want to
> make sure to meet all city and state electrical codes.  From my memory of
> when I used to work at UL many many years ago I remember that City of LA
> has a test lab and they won’t just take anyone’s test reports but they
> I believe accepted some of the NRTL test reports.  Does anyone have any
> info on this detail and also if there is a written requirement or language
> on this specific issue.  A weblink or a reference to a City of LA code or
> similar would be really great to get too.
>
> Thx much,
>
> Leonard (Leo) Eisner, P.E.
> Principal Consultant, Eisner Safety Consultants
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[PSES] Which Safety Test Agency Reports are accepted by City of LA Test Lab (please provide text of requirement or code)

2016-11-23 Thread Leo Eisner 
Hi All,

I am working with a client that will be installing a pretty big medical device 
in various types of locations across the country and so they want to make sure 
to meet all city and state electrical codes.  From my memory of when I used to 
work at UL many many years ago I remember that City of LA has a test lab and 
they won’t just take anyone’s test reports but they I believe accepted some of 
the NRTL test reports.  Does anyone have any info on this detail and also if 
there is a written requirement or language on this specific issue.  A weblink 
or a reference to a City of LA code or similar would be really great to get too.

Thx much,

Leonard (Leo) Eisner, P.E.
Principal Consultant, Eisner Safety Consultants
Phone: (503) 244-6151
Mobile: (503) 709-8328
Email: l...@eisnersafety.com
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