I read in !emc-pstc that Dean Gerard (gdean) gd...@ncht.trent.nhs.uk
wrote (in 41e1d962cb500644907f3835aaf9c8161df...@exchange.ncht.trent.nh
s.uk) about 'EMC prosecution' on Wed, 2 Oct 2002:
Indeed the regime of 'approved' British
standards under UK product legislation, compliance with which did
With regard to discussion on 'presumption of compliance' conferred by
application of harmonised standards I thought the following passages might
be of interest (taken from 'Safer by Design' by Abbott Tyler, who
according to the sleeve-notes are a product safety management consultant and
a
from an eminent UK lawyer on these matters. (but I will
not be paying him)
Cheers
Alan E Hutley
EMC Compliance Journal
www.compliance-club.com
- Original Message -
From: Gregg Kervill
To: 'Emc-Pstc Discussion Group'
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 5:17 PM
Subject: RE: EMC
In response to the 9/27/02 post from Gregg at Test4safety.com:
There are some serious questions and there is a lot of information missing
from your description of the situation. I'll try to address your statements
one by one and offer my reaction as a former certification agency manager:
Can
...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Jim Eichner
Sent: donderdag 26 september 2002 20:17
To: 'EMC-PSTC - forum'
Subject: FW: EMC Prosecution in UK
I read this article with some consternation, since in my mind it
challenges not the manufacturer or importer, but the concept of Presumption
of Conformity
-Original Message-
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Alan E Hutley
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 8:53 AM
To: Neil Helsby; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: Re: EMC prosecution UK
There have been many good issues raised in this thread in particular the
issue of bad case-law being set. I remember a very good UK lawyer friend
of mine predicting that initial case-law would be suspect and based upon
incomplete knowledge and understanding of the issues. And that until cases
2c
in addition to the rights and wrongs of the technical issue is the quesion of a
level playing field for all manufacturers that compete for the UK market with a
given product, like our hair dryer example.
EMC directive and regulations for domestic products gives teeth to the trading
I read in !emc-pstc that Alan E Hutley nutwoo...@nutwood.eu.com wrote
(in 01a501c26624$cce34f20$0d01a8c0@alan) about 'EMC prosecution UK' on
Fri, 27 Sep 2002:
Can someone advise if the importer or manufacture takes the product to a
test house and asks to test to a certain standard is there any
On the other hand
There seems to be some question about this recently reported case, and
regardless of the outcome of any appeal, the following points need to be
remembered.
1)The cost goes far beyond a fine. The TS can prohibit the sale of
goods in store until any required
is there any legal
obligation on the test house to advise of other implications or standards.
Alan E Hutley
EMC Compliance Journal
- Original Message -
From: Neil Helsby nei...@solid-state-logic.com
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 10:07 AM
Subject: EMC prosecution
I read in !emc-pstc that Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote (in
oleokfnbajjejfkplbbmcelgcdaa.g.grem...@cetest.nl) about 'EMC
Prosecution in UK' on Fri, 27 Sep 2002:
I understand your concerns, but that is exactly why harmonised standards
give only PRESUMPTION of Compliance only
There seems to be some question about this recently reported case, and
regardless of the outcome of any appeal, the following points need to be
remembered.
1) The cost goes far beyond a fine. The TS can prohibit the sale of goods
in store until any required corrective action has been
I read in !emc-pstc that Jim Eichner jim.eich...@xantrex.com wrote (in
67C475A5ECE7D4118AEC0002B325CAB603510EDA@BCMAIL1) about 'FW: EMC
Prosecution in UK' on Thu, 26 Sep 2002:
I read this article with some consternation, since in my mind it challenges
not the manufacturer or importer
, September 25, 2002 11:43 PM
To: Emc-Pstc Discussion Group
Subject: EMC Prosecution in UK
EMC Prosecution, the company mentioned in the report Hot UK Ltd is owned by
Helen of Troy based in El Paso Texas.
For full story go click below
http://www.compliance-club.com/TS%20Prosecution.doc
http
I read in !emc-pstc that Price, Ed ed.pr...@cubic.com wrote (in
b78135310217d511907c0090273f5190d0b...@curly.ds.cubic.com) about 'EMC
Prosecution in UK' on Thu, 26 Sep 2002:
HOT was fined $9,000 by the British magistrates.
Not the point: if reports are true, part of the prosecution case was
ill
-Original Message-
From: Alan E Hutley [mailto:nutwoo...@nutwood.eu.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 11:43 PM
To: Emc-Pstc Discussion Group
Subject: EMC Prosecution in UK
EMC Prosecution, the company mentioned in the report Hot UK Ltd is owned by
Helen of Troy based in El Paso
EMC Prosecution, the company mentioned in the report Hot UK Ltd is owned by
Helen of Troy based in El Paso Texas.
For full story go click below
http://www.compliance-club.com/TS%20Prosecution.doc
Alan E Hutley
EMC Compliance Journal
www.compliance-club.com
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