Gregg,

My intention was certainly NOT to inflame. My sincere, whole-hearted
apology. Your time, effort, and financial committment to creating/providing
a certification for safety engineers will certainly be appreciated by all. I
certainly appreciate it. This is a noble committment and a noble cause.

Uninformed, I certainly was (and I don't think I was alone). Until I
received this email from you, I did not know this was taking place. I
appreciate your detailed description of what has been going on with eGlobal
Education Partnership, as I'm sure many others on this list are interested
as well. Apparently, others have inquired, and also received no response or
acknowledgement, from you or NARTE. Once again, no flame intended.

As far as "uninformed liable" is concerned, I believe this to be an
oxy-moron. Liable involves some kind of malicious intent to destroy which
was definitely not the case. Might I suggest, since you are preparing a
workshop for the IEEE in Boston, that you provide some details to this list,
so that we all might be informed. Lack of communication and information
always seems to cause problems, while having information leads to confidence
and assurance.

I believe we all would benefit from information you have on this program. I
hope that you can provide some for our benefit.

I also hope that you accept my public apology, there was never any flame
intended. If not, please feel free to contact me off-line to resolve the
issue.

Thanks,
Mike Cantwell, PE, NCE
Cantwell Engineering LLC
1232 Rio Grande Dr.
Allen, TX 75013
Tel: (214) 547-1666
Cell: (469) 831-8701
mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org or
mailto:mcantw...@leapfroginet.com
AIM: CantwellEMC




From: Gregg Kervill [mailto:gr...@test4safety.com]On Behalf Of
gr...@eglobaled.org
Sent: Wednesday, 09 July, 2003 12:17 PM
To: 'Mike Cantwell'
Cc: ri...@ieee.org; j.bac...@ieee.org
Subject: RE: NARTE safety engineer certification
Importance: High


Mike,

The word HOAX is more than a little inflammatory - and when used against a
legitimate IRS certified 501 (c) (iii) legal issues are raised.



For your information:-
* I have been working with NARTE on this safety engineer certification
project since the mid 90's
* I formed the non-profit (eGlobal Education Partnership) at considerable
cost and nine months of legal negotiations with the IRS - it has become
extremely difficult to get the (c)(iii) designation.
* I have created a board that includes the Director of a key US government
institute plus and members of large corporations and government departments
in the US - New Zealand - China and elsewhere - I am sure that this group -
who are devoting their time for the advancement of you and others will be
delight to be branded as participants in a HOAX publicly by you.
* I am currently developing free regulatory training material that will be
hosted on the eGlobal Education Partnership site - for the betterment of
engineers world-wide

In short I have put several thousand hours of my time PLUS many thousands of
dollars into developing eGlobal and do not intend to let it be destroyed by
uninformed liable.


I believe that a PUBLIC apology would be a good starting place.



Gregg Kervill DipIM, MIMgt, MIEEE
Member of IEEE-EMCS Education Committee
Member of World Congress on IT committee (WCIT2006.org)



From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Mike Cantwell
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 9:32 AM
To: Emc-Pstc
Subject: RE: NARTE safety engineer certification


I responded to the website below (which does not seem to be related to
NARTE) and also got no response. I do believe this is a HOAX.



From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Peter L. Tarver
Sent: Wednesday, 02 July, 2003 7:03 AM
To: 'emc-pstc'
Subject: NARTE safety engineer certification



Out of curiosity, I wrote NARTE directly regarding the
below, to see what benefit they believe NARTE certification
would offer someone who already has experience in product
safety and a PE Registration.  It's been a week and they
have not responded.  Perhaps that's their answer.


Regards,

Peter L. Tarver, PE
Product Safety Manager
Sanmina-SCI Homologation Services
San Jose, CA
peter.tar...@sanmina-sci.com

> From: gr...@test4safety.com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 2:48 PM
>
> It's also worth noting that NARTE will begin the
Grandfathering
> phase for their Certified Product Safety
Engineer/Technician
> award: you can get more information by registering on the
> 501(c)(iii)  (Charity) site of www.eGlobalEd.Org
>
> Best regards
>
> Gregg



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