Re: CLASS 11(DOUBLE INSULATED) 2/3-CORE CABLE

2001-11-13 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Rich Nute ri...@sdd.hp.com wrote (in 20022357.paa03...@epgc196.sdd.hp.com) about 'CLASS 11(DOUBLE INSULATED) 2/3-CORE CABLE', on Mon, 12 Nov 2001: Hi John: No; France and Norway have 'IT' systems, in which grounding is only to prevent static charge

Re: CLASS 11(DOUBLE INSULATED) 2/3-CORE CABLE

2001-11-13 Thread Rich Nute
Hi John: No; France and Norway have 'IT' systems, in which grounding is only to prevent static charge build-up; the neutral is grounded through an impedance at the sub-station. AIUI, this is used in mountainous districts where ground paths are long and of low conductivity. There

Re: CLASS 11(DOUBLE INSULATED) 2/3-CORE CABLE

2001-11-06 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Ted Rook t...@crestaudio.com wrote (in sbe6c255@peavey.com) about 'CLASS 11(DOUBLE INSULATED) 2/3-CORE CABLE', on Mon, 5 Nov 2001: Could the grounding safety issues we are confronted by have been avoided if the incoming AC supply had remained 'balanced' that is,

RE: CLASS 11(DOUBLE INSULATED) 2/3-CORE CABLE

2001-11-05 Thread Ted Rook
Could the grounding safety issues we are confronted by have been avoided if the incoming AC supply had remained 'balanced' that is, not referenced to local ground anywhere? Or to put it another way. Some where along the way it was decided to ground the neutral at the premises entrance. Why?

RE: CLASS 11(DOUBLE INSULATED) 2/3-CORE CABLE

2001-11-05 Thread Gregg Kervill
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Re: CLASS 11(DOUBLE INSULATED) 2/3-CORE CABLE

2001-11-05 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that geor...@lexmark.com wrote (in 200111051917.OAA 13...@interlock2.lexmark.com) about 'CLASS 11(DOUBLE INSULATED) 2/3-CORE CABLE', on Mon, 5 Nov 2001: A word of history on Class I vs. Class II, as I understand it. In the beginning there was no such thing as earth grounding

Re: CLASS 11(DOUBLE INSULATED) 2/3-CORE CABLE

2001-11-05 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Andrew Wood andrew.w...@landinst.com wrote (in e49d8b319a2fd5119e2808002bc33c591c8...@landuk1.landinst.com) about 'CLASS 11(DOUBLE INSULATED) 2/3-CORE CABLE', on Mon, 5 Nov 2001: All I have a piece of equipment falling under the scope of EN6010. Is that a typo or do

Re: CLASS 11(DOUBLE INSULATED) 2/3-CORE CABLE

2001-11-05 Thread georgea
A word of history on Class I vs. Class II, as I understand it. In the beginning there was no such thing as earth grounding in homes and offices for the needed electrical appliances. The equivalent of our present double insulation was required to prevent against electric shock. When

RE: CLASS 11(DOUBLE INSULATED) 2/3-CORE CABLE

2001-11-05 Thread georgea
Several years ago I had the need to explain this same issue. Similarly most of the inquiries came from the U.K. Here are some exerpts from a white paper done to address this issue: *** This document addresses the nature and safety of two-wire ITE products. The international

Re: CLASS 11(DOUBLE INSULATED) 2/3-CORE CABLE

2001-11-05 Thread Andrew Carson
At home my video recorder, hi-fi and Satellite box, have metal outer enclosure. But are supplied by a two pin IEC320 C8 connector, running back to a UK three pin plug. The earth core is simply not present in the power cord. Products are marked with the Square within a Square and the manuals

RE: CLASS 11(DOUBLE INSULATED) 2/3-CORE CABLE

2001-11-05 Thread Allen, John
Andrew Don't try to explain that double insulation and earthing are both acceptable alternatives - only 1 persion in 10 will understand and the public won't care! Option 1 - I think knowledgeable technical people in most countries would actually prefer this for the reasons you mention in your