RE: Comment re: RE: SV: NRTL in the U.S.

2003-01-20 Thread Peter L. Tarver

Bill, John, et al -

I subscribe at work with very nice bandwidth at no direct
cost to me and yet I fully support your position.  Indeed a
quick perusal of the official posting policy for the list,
presented below, makes the point.  I dislike even e-cards
attached to e-mails to the list.

Regards,

Peter L. Tarver, PE
Product Safety Manager
Sanmina-SCI Homologation Services
San Jose, CA
peter.tar...@sanmina-sci.com


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From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org on behalf of Rich
Nute
[ri...@sdd.hp.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 4:22 PM
To: Product Safety Technical Committee
Subject: Administrative message -- posting formats


Regarding postings, here is a re-statement of our
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If an attachment is appropriate or necessary to
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a)  offer to e-mail it separately upon request, or
b)  make it available on an FTP site, or
c)  post it to a web site and provide the URL in
your message.

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Don't forget to delete the emc-pstc footer!

:-)

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RE: Comment re: RE: SV: NRTL in the U.S.

2003-01-20 Thread Tyra, John

No offense taken Bill

I will remember this in the future and offer an attachment to those who are
interested instead of wasting everyone's bandwidth and internet connection
time..I apologize to those this inconvenienced...

regards,

John


From: b...@lyons.demon.co.uk [mailto:b...@lyons.demon.co.uk]
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 6:19 AM
To: Tyra, John; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: Comment re: RE: SV: NRTL in the U.S.


In message 418fbd441c22d5118d860003470d43160543f...@cupid.bose.com
   Tyra, John writes:

 Attached is an article from the Conformity 2002 Annual Guide titled Know
 When You Need To List Your Product And When You Don't written by John
 Curtis of Curtis- Strauss LLC. It gives some great information. For those
 who, rightfully, fear attachments, I ran this through a dedicated scanner
 and our outgoing e-mails are virus scanned so I hope that gives you some
 confidence as to the integrity of the attachment..Hope this
 helps...

[all previous snipped]

Dear John,

No, I don't necessarily fear attachments, but they are a terrific 
nuisance to those on a dial-up connection, as I am, and annoying to 
those who don't need them, e.g. in this instance those who are not 
involved in the U.S. market for example.  

I was horrified when my connection seemed to be hanging and when the 
connection at last closed found that there was a mail of no less than 
839,820 bytes, and which took a helluva time, and added quite a bit to 
my phone bill, to download.  

Please may I suggest that if you had emailed your full response to 
those directly involved and posted a note to EMC-PSTC saying how much 
you valued the article and from where it could be downloaded (or that 
you would mail it on request), this would have been equally helpful 
and saved a lot of bandwidth for everyone else.  

Apologies both to you, as I know you meant well, and to the list 
administrators who may think I am infringing on their prerogative, but 
not everyone on this list is on a broadband connection and I thought 
it right to explain this.  (Actually, I think the list standing 
guidelines deprecate the posting of binaries/attachments.)

Incidentally, I'm sure Conformity will be delighted at the free 
publicity, but there can be copright issues in posting articles or 
other third party documents to mailing lists or newsgroups.

Again my apologies for any unintemded offense.

With best wishes

Bill

-- 
Bill Lyons - b...@lyons.demon.co.uk / w.ly...@ieee.org




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