Re: EN55022:1998, +A1:2000, +A2:2003 Extended

2009-08-28 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Monrad, Please find the following answers regarding Taiwan BSMI's requirements concerning 1-6GHz. The answers are provided by the chief EMC engineer at BSMI. Regarding Taiwan BSMI, how

RE: EN55022:1998, +A1:2000, +A2:2003 Extended

2009-08-26 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
:18 AM To: Monrad Monsen Cc: Spencer, David H; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: EN55022:1998, +A1:2000, +A2:2003 Extended Good Morning Monrad, The program manager at VCCI answered your first question: We are also aware of EU' one year delay. It will be a subject for us to discuss

Re: EN55022:1998, +A1:2000, +A2:2003 Extended

2009-08-25 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Good Morning Monrad, The program manager at VCCI answered your first question: We are also aware of EU' one year delay. It will be a subject for us to discuss but at this moment, we have no intention to delay our deadline to match Europe. I hope this helps. Sincerely, Grace On

RE: EN55022:1998, +A1:2000, +A2:2003 Extended

2009-08-21 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
...@ieee.org Subject: Re: EN55022:1998, +A1:2000, +A2:2003 Extended You can view the clean PDF of 2009/C 197/03 issued today at the following web address: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:C:2009:197:0003:000 3:EN:PDF Based on the 2009/C 197/03, it appears that manufacturers

RE: EN55022:1998, +A1:2000, +A2:2003 Extended

2009-08-21 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
: EN55022:1998, +A1:2000, +A2:2003 Extended You can view the clean PDF of 2009/C 197/03 issued today at the following web address: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/Le UriServ.do?uri=OJ:C:2009:197:0003:0003:EN:PDF Based on the 2009/C 197/03, it appears

Re: EN55022:1998, +A1:2000, +A2:2003 Extended

2009-08-21 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
You can view the clean PDF of 2009/C 197/03 issued today at the following web address: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/Lex riServ.do?uri=OJ:C:2009:197:0003:0003:EN:PDF Based on the 2009/C 197/03, it appears that manufacturers are granted an extra year before their products must meet the

Re: EN55022:1998 + Amendment A1:2000

2003-04-25 Thread John Barnes
John, Amendment A1:2000 to EN55022:1998 changes subclause 10.4, Equipment set-up, for tabletop units. Their linecords are now to come straight down from the tabletop, then go through ferrite clamps or ferrite tubes before they plug into the AC power outlet. According to the latest listing of

RE: EN55022:1998 and telecom ports

2003-01-31 Thread Wagner, John P (John)
] Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 11:24 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: EN55022:1998 and telecom ports Unfortunately, EN 55022 is the only available emissions standard for CCTV products used for security applications. Even the standard for professional video equipment, EN55103-1

RE: EN55022:1998 and telecom ports

2003-01-31 Thread Wagner, John P (John)
31, 2003 8:33 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: EN55022:1998 and telecom ports I read in !emc-pstc that david_ster...@ademco.com wrote (in 2DF7C54A75B dd311b61700508b64231002c5b...@nyhqex1.ademconet.com) about 'EN55022:1998 and telecom ports' on Fri, 31 Jan 2003: Earthing STP

Re: EN55022:1998 and telecom ports

2003-01-31 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Wagner, John P (John) johnwag...@avaya.com wrote (in 4203D61676D0AE468AA5CEA90A891C1302A01467@cof110avexu4.global. avaya.com) about 'EN55022:1998 and telecom ports' on Fri, 31 Jan 2003: By the way, CISPR/F has nothing whatsoever to do with ITE. It is CISPR/I and

Re: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000

2003-01-31 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that drcuthbert drcuthb...@micron.com wrote (in cfefa50c9bcad21197470001fa7eba6b14121...@ntexchange05.micron.com) about 'EN55022:1998 + A1:2000' on Fri, 31 Jan 2003: How can a ferrite clamp be called a CMAD Common Mode Absorption Device? It reduces EM radiation by reducing

RE: EN55022:1998 and telecom ports

2003-01-31 Thread Andy White (EWU)
From: Cortland Richmond [mailto:72146@compuserve.com] Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 10:21 AM To: ieee pstc list Subject: RE: EN55022:1998 and telecom ports David Sterner wrote: UTP has been repeatedly shown to radiate less than STP. Telcordia GR-1089 exempts STP from intrabuilding

Re: EN55022:1998 and telecom ports

2003-01-31 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that richwo...@tycoint.com wrote (in 846BF526A205F8 4BA2B6045BBF7E9A6A04675BCE@flbocexu05) about 'EN55022:1998 and telecom ports' on Fri, 31 Jan 2003: The standard also includes tests for coax and alludes to emissions caused by imperfect shielding. That seems to imply that a

RE: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000

2003-01-31 Thread Cortland Richmond
Dave Cuthbert wrote The nick name for MFJ is Mighty Fine Junk. Yes it is -- or has been. But I'll jump in here to add that while I've in the past often been underwhelmed by the quality of some MFJ equipment, I was favorably impressed with my MFJ-259B. And it is quite useful. I have one of

RE: EN55022:1998 and telecom ports

2003-01-31 Thread richwo...@tycoint.com
this in mind. Richard Woods Sensormatic Electronics Tyco International From: Pettit, Ghery [mailto:ghery.pet...@intel.com] Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 11:39 AM To: 'richwo...@tycoint.com'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: EN55022:1998 and telecom ports Richard, Cameras, monitors

RE: EN55022:1998 and telecom ports

2003-01-31 Thread Cortland Richmond
David Sterner wrote: UTP has been repeatedly shown to radiate less than STP. Telcordia GR-1089 exempts STP from intrabuilding surges; the shield is assumed to carry them. This makes it attractive for US telecom designers whose equipment uses Ethernet. Cortland This message is from the

RE: EN55022:1998 and telecom ports

2003-01-31 Thread Pettit, Ghery
From: david_ster...@ademco.com [mailto:david_ster...@ademco.com] Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 5:35 AM To: ghery.pet...@intel.com; gary.mcintu...@worldwidepackets.com; richwo...@tycoint.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: EN55022:1998 and telecom ports Ghery - Ethernet on coax (10Base2

Re: EN55022:1998 and telecom ports

2003-01-31 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that david_ster...@ademco.com wrote (in 2DF7C54A75B dd311b61700508b64231002c5b...@nyhqex1.ademconet.com) about 'EN55022:1998 and telecom ports' on Fri, 31 Jan 2003: Earthing STP shields at both ends is potential safety hazard, How does a safety hazard arise? -- Regards,

RE: EN55022:1998 and telecom ports

2003-01-31 Thread Pettit, Ghery
Richard, Cameras, monitors, etc are not ITE. CISPR 22 does not apply to them. Ghery Pettit Intel From: richwo...@tycoint.com [mailto:richwo...@tycoint.com] Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 7:20 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: EN55022:1998 and telecom ports OK, so widely

RE: EN55022:1998 and telecom ports

2003-01-31 Thread Wagner, John P (John)
...@avaya.com From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 6:55 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: EN55022:1998 and telecom ports I read in !emc-pstc that richwo...@tycoint.com wrote (in 846BF526A205F8 4BA2B6045BBF7E9A6A04675BB4@flbocexu05) about

RE: EN55022:1998 and telecom ports

2003-01-31 Thread richwo...@tycoint.com
Kristiaan [mailto:carpenti...@thmulti.com] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 5:54 PM To: 'richwo...@tycoint.com'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: EN55022:1998 and telecom ports Richard, In addition to Gherys explanation of the note, there is also the definition itself that inherently excludes

RE: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000

2003-01-31 Thread drcuthbert
of Bicons and such. The MFJ-269 provides a look at 470 MHz. http://www.mfjenterprises.com/index.php Dave Cuthbert From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 5:14 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000 I read in !emc-pstc

RE: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000

2003-01-31 Thread drcuthbert
...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 5:12 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000 I read in !emc-pstc that Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote (in oleokfnbajjejfkplbbmoeelchaa.g.grem...@cetest.nl) about 'EN55022:1998 + A1:2000' on Thu, 30 Jan 2003: The official

Re: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000

2003-01-31 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote (in oleokfnbajjejfkplbbmoeelchaa.g.grem...@cetest.nl) about 'EN55022:1998 + A1:2000' on Thu, 30 Jan 2003: The official name is CMAD Common Mode Absorption Device. (before John makes one himself ;)) You mean me? And do you mean

Re: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000

2003-01-31 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that drcuthbert drcuthb...@micron.com wrote (in cfefa50c9bcad21197470001fa7eba6b14121...@ntexchange05.micron.com) about 'EN55022:1998 + A1:2000' on Wed, 29 Jan 2003: And I have used an MFJ-259B (only $260) to measure ferrites from 1.7 to 170 MHz. What is an MFJ-259B and

Re: EN55022:1998 and telecom ports

2003-01-31 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that richwo...@tycoint.com wrote (in 846BF526A205F8 4BA2B6045BBF7E9A6A04675BB4@flbocexu05) about 'EN55022:1998 and telecom ports' on Thu, 30 Jan 2003: EN55022:1998 defines telecommunication ports as Ports which are intended to be connected to telecommunications networks (e.g.

RE: EN55022:1998 and telecom ports

2003-01-31 Thread david_ster...@ademco.com
, but that is EN60950, not EN55022. David From: Pettit, Ghery [mailto:ghery.pet...@intel.com] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 5:27 PM To: 'Gary McInturff'; Pettit, Ghery; richwo...@tycoint.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: EN55022:1998 and telecom ports Gary, Unfortunately

RE: EN55022:1998 and telecom ports

2003-01-30 Thread Carpentier Kristiaan
Richard, In addition to Gherys explanation of the note, there is also the definition itself that inherently excludes certain interfaces by means of the wordings widely dispersed and multi-user. But I agree that adding some more definitions of interfaces would help, also myself. Clause 6.3:

RE: EN55022:1998 and telecom ports

2003-01-30 Thread Pettit, Ghery
Subject: RE: EN55022:1998 and telecom ports Glad to hear this! Ethernet lines are interconnection of ITE components and not telecommunications cables. Asbestos shorts on - fire away. Gary From: Pettit, Ghery [mailto:ghery.pet...@intel.com] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003

RE: EN55022:1998 and telecom ports

2003-01-30 Thread Gary McInturff
-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: EN55022:1998 and telecom ports Richard, Further clarification to this question was provided by the addition of the following note at the end of article 3.6 of CISPR 22:1997 as part of Amendment 2 which was published in October of last year. NOTE A port

RE: EN55022:1998 and telecom ports

2003-01-30 Thread richwo...@tycoint.com
30, 2003 1:45 PM To: 'richwo...@tycoint.com'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: EN55022:1998 and telecom ports Richard, Further clarification to this question was provided by the addition of the following note at the end of article 3.6 of CISPR 22:1997 as part of Amendment 2 which

RE: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000

2003-01-30 Thread Anchondo, Dan
a tile. Dan Anchondo From: Gert Gremmen [mailto:g.grem...@cetest.nl] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 10:17 PM To: Chris Maxwell; Pettit, Ghery; neve...@attbi.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000 Clamp attenuation calibration. The calibration proposed

RE: EN55022:1998 and telecom ports

2003-01-30 Thread Pettit, Ghery
Richard, Further clarification to this question was provided by the addition of the following note at the end of article 3.6 of CISPR 22:1997 as part of Amendment 2 which was published in October of last year. NOTE A port generally intended for interconnection of components of an ITE system

RE: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000

2003-01-30 Thread Gert Gremmen
...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Chris Maxwell Sent: woensdag 29 januari 2003 21:14 To: Pettit, Ghery; neve...@attbi.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000 Indeed, a very good point! I wonder what is meant by the 50 Ohm system does

RE: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000

2003-01-29 Thread Cortland Richmond
Dave Cuthbert write the point at which ferrites are placed will not always have a common mode impedance of 50 ohms. Here's An example: a large DUT has a 1 meter long cable that connects Not always; make that rarely. Comments about the 150 ohm impedance are on target. That might be

RE: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000

2003-01-29 Thread drcuthbert
[mailto:ghery.pet...@intel.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 12:09 PM To: 'Chris Maxwell'; Pettit, Ghery; neve...@attbi.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000 Chris, You can indeed make your own, but my bet is that A2LA or NIST NVLAP inspectors will want to see

RE: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000

2003-01-29 Thread drcuthbert
Micron Technology From: Chris Maxwell [mailto:chris.maxw...@nettest.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 11:57 AM To: Pettit, Ghery; neve...@attbi.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000 Ghery, If the standard is assuming a 50 Ohm system, doesn't this breakdown

RE: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000

2003-01-29 Thread neve...@attbi.com
a published calibration technique... Ghery -Original Message- From: Chris Maxwell [mailto:chris.maxw...@nettest.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 10:57 AM To: Pettit, Ghery; neve...@attbi.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000 Ghery

Re: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000

2003-01-29 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Chris Maxwell chris.maxw...@nettest.com wrote (in 83d652574e7af740873674f9fc12dbaaf7e...@utexh1w2.gnnettest.com) about 'EN55022:1998 + A1:2000' on Wed, 29 Jan 2003: If the standard is assuming a 50 Ohm system, doesn't this breakdown to a simple calculation? Quite

Re: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000

2003-01-29 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote (in mpeeiccjhhndekobpnnbmeegckaa.g.grem...@cetest.nl) about 'EN55022:1998 + A1:2000' on Wed, 29 Jan 2003: Proposals are on their way to specify both transfer attenuation (first) and input CM impedance of those clamps (later) The

RE: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000

2003-01-29 Thread Cortland Richmond
Ghery Pettit wrote: Chris, You can indeed make your own, but my bet is that A2LA or NIST NVLAP inspectors will want to see calibration data, not calculations. Now, if we just had a published calibration technique... This is still not rocket science. Using Z = 138*(log OD/ID) --- for an air

RE: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000

2003-01-29 Thread Chris Maxwell
...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000 Chris, You can indeed make your own, but my bet is that A2LA or NIST NVLAP inspectors will want to see calibration data, not calculations. Now, if we just had a published calibration technique... Ghery This message is from the IEEE

RE: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000

2003-01-29 Thread Pettit, Ghery
10:57 AM To: Pettit, Ghery; neve...@attbi.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000 Ghery, If the standard is assuming a 50 Ohm system, doesn't this breakdown to a simple calculation? Insertion Loss = IL = 20 x log((50 + Zf) / 50)where Zf is the ferrite impedance

RE: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000

2003-01-29 Thread Chris Maxwell
'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000 Amendment 1 to CISPR 22:1997 (Amendment A1:2000 to EN 55022:1998) requires that the clamps provide at least 15 dB of loss in a 50 ohm system over the frequency range of 30 MHz to 1000 MHz. The use of extension cords

RE: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000

2003-01-29 Thread John Cronin
From: Gert Gremmen Reply-To: Gert Gremmen To: Gordon,Ian , Subject: RE: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000 Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:54:00 +0100 Hi Group, Proposals are on their way to specify both transfer attenuation (first) and input CM impedance of those clamps (later) The radiation

RE: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000

2003-01-29 Thread Gert Gremmen
...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000 All I can see that my manager would prefer to use Neven's approach - it is probably much cheaper than buying clamps. However, does anybody have any practical experience of this? A reply from an accredited test house would be welcomed! Thanks Ian

RE: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000

2003-01-29 Thread Pettit, Ghery
, January 28, 2003 9:22 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000 Instead of paying big bucks for the clamps (I am not sure what the price is, but I'm sure it is too much anyway :), why not buying a bucket of ferrite doughnuts that can be used over cables. Or, when

RE: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000

2003-01-29 Thread Gordon,Ian
...@attbi.com] Sent: 29 January 2003 05:22 To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000 Instead of paying big bucks for the clamps (I am not sure what the price is, but I'm sure it is too much anyway :), why not buying a bucket of ferrite doughnuts that can be used over cables

Re: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000

2003-01-29 Thread neve...@attbi.com
Instead of paying big bucks for the clamps (I am not sure what the price is, but I'm sure it is too much anyway :), why not buying a bucket of ferrite doughnuts that can be used over cables. Or, when possible, building in-line adapters out of sections of cables (maybe 1m long) and lining them

Re: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000

2003-01-28 Thread lfresea...@aol.com
In a message dated 1/28/03 6:32:49 PM Central Standard Time, drcuthb...@micron.com writes: A1 to EN55022:1998 requires the use of ferrite clamps on all cables leaving the table-top EUT for a connection outside the test site. Are there any other manufacturers of these clamps other than Fischer

RE: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000

2003-01-28 Thread drcuthbert
I don't have a copy of EN55022 to look at so I'll ask a question: How many ferrite clamps and what type are specified? And are they placed at various places, at one location only, or placed as with a Bicon balun? Dave Cuthbert Micron Technology From: richwo...@tycoint.com

RE: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000

2003-01-28 Thread Pettit, Ghery
Without looking at their web pages, I would suspect that Schaffner and Rohde Schwarz might be places to look. ETS-Lindgren, as well? Ghery Pettit Intel From: richwo...@tycoint.com [mailto:richwo...@tycoint.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 10:30 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject:

RE: EN55022:1998

2002-04-26 Thread Wagner, John P (John)
Not yet. CISPR/I is working the issue and has 3 CD's in circulation at the moment. Nothing yet, however, on non-invasive measurements using current probes and capacitive voltage clamps -- measurment method C.1.3 and C.1.4. Its on the agenda for WG3 and hopefully a CD will be forthcoming by

RE: EN55022:1998

2002-04-26 Thread Pettit, Ghery
Richard, We (I'm on CISPR SC I WG3) are still working on fixes to CISPR 22:1997 in this area. I would not expect to have the necessary amendment published by August of next year. Stranger things have happened, but I would be highly surprised. What happens with EN 55022:1998 in the meantime is

RE: EN55022: 1998 Postponement

2001-07-26 Thread Pettit, Ghery
Chris, Your timing is excellent. The attached was just posted in the OJ today. EN 55022:1998 is officially put off (DoW) until 1 August 2003. Note in the attachment that Amendment 1 also has a DoW of 1 August 2003. Amendment 1 adds ferrite clamps to all cables leaving the turntable when

Re: EN55022:1998 Annex C

2001-05-29 Thread Chris Allen
...@ma.ultranet.com To: Treggers emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org cc:(Chris Allen/GB/3Com) Subject: EN55022:1998 Annex C Treggers, I need your help re EN55022:1998 and what I've been told is Annex C which is an additional conductive test effective 8/1/01. Does this apply to all ITE or just that which

RE: EN55022:1998, CISPR 22:1997

2000-05-18 Thread JMurphy
Here is a link to Conformity Magazine's description. http://www.conformity.com/9904reflections.pdf http://www.conformity.com/9904reflections.pdf I am not too familiar with the spec but I have had the test done a couple of times. I believe the spec requires that the line be terminated. You