Re: [PSES] Experts and Wisdom

2012-01-04 Thread Michael Derby
It’s an old one but it still makes me smile……. Regarding the difference between wisdom and knowledge……. Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: emc-p...@ieee.org

Re: [PSES] Radiated Emissions Testing of Intentional Radiators - Practicalities?

2012-01-10 Thread Michael Derby
access point antenna. I hope this helps a little. Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: Pawson, James [mailto:james.paw...@echostar.com] Sent: 10 January 2012 16:13 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Radiated Emissions Testing of Intentional

Re: [PSES] RTTE - Alert Calss 2 identifier

2012-01-17 Thread Michael Derby
Hello, I'm not aware of any requirement for it to be on the DoC. Just the equipment, the packaging and the user manual. I find this labelling guidance document very useful: http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/sectors/rtte/files/guidance/guidance_en.pdf Michael. Michael

Re: [PSES] FCC requirements for Inductive Chargers

2012-01-25 Thread Michael Derby
form of communication taking place. Thanks, Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe -Original Message- From: Brian Oconnell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: 25 January 2012 19:03 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] FCC requirements for Inductive

Re: [PSES] FCC requirements for Inductive Chargers

2012-01-25 Thread Michael Derby
This makes me realise how boring my reply was. I'm sorry. I'll try harder next time. I don't want to be one of those guys in the red shirt who only turns up for one episode and you know he's going to get killed. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From

Re: [PSES] Is this common knowledge - Electrical Ratings

2012-01-31 Thread Michael Derby
word. e-bay :-) Do we all buy our products new, from the original supplier? Just to stir the pot, Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe -Original Message- From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] Sent: 28 January 2012 20:39 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG

Re: [PSES] GPS Receivers

2012-02-28 Thread Michael Derby
transmitter in with it) As for multi-radio equipment.. It's likely that the GPS will be on during tests of other features, so you may be able to save time and effort by monitoring/exercising both. I hope this helps, Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From

Re: [PSES] GPS Receivers

2012-02-28 Thread Michael Derby
equipment which also has a satellite transmitter included. In such a case, you might consider using something like EN 300 441 and EN 401 489-19. I hope that makes sense? Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: Steve O'Steen [mailto:steve.ost...@acstestlab.com

Re: [PSES] RTTE compliance test reports

2012-02-28 Thread Michael Derby
for their opinion. Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] Sent: 28 February 2012 16:08 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] RTTE compliance test reports I notice that some compliance reports of RTTE are reviewed

Re: [PSES] RTTE compliance test reports

2012-02-28 Thread Michael Derby
and administrative changes. I'm sure I'll get corrected on some of my political terminology details here but I hope the general idea makes sense. Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: Amund Westin [mailto:am...@westin-emission.no] Sent: 28 February 2012 17:11

Re: [PSES] RTTE compliance test reports

2012-02-29 Thread Michael Derby
interpretation and skill set of actual testing. .Yes. You could look at the capability of the lab, how they calibrate their equipment, chat to them about the standards and the staff, visit their lab, etc. Michael Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: Scott Xe

Re: [PSES] Notified Body Opinion vs. Harmonised Standards (RTTED)

2012-03-08 Thread Michael Derby
with their NB number on it. If the device has a problem in the real world and a regulator contacts the Notified Body, the Notified Body can say sure, we gave our opinion, we said no. Some people like the freedom of a DoC system. Some don't like the responsibility. Michael. Michael Derby

Re: [PSES] Notified Body Opinion vs. Harmonised Standards (RTTED)

2012-03-08 Thread Michael Derby
paid a lot of money for the license and the other has not. Who do you think will get to stay switched on? :-) Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe -Original Message- From: Macy [mailto:m...@basicisp.net] Sent: 08 March 2012 17:15 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG

Re: [PSES] Notified Body Opinion vs. Harmonised Standards (RTTED)

2012-03-08 Thread Michael Derby
exactly John, hence the 2-part FCC statement on the label of the unlicensed device. :-) Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: 08 March 2012 17:52 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES

Re: [PSES] Identifying Apparatus in Europe Declarations of Conformity (DOCs)

2012-03-13 Thread Michael Derby
Directive does not apply. You don't apply them both. Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe -Original Message- From: Charlie Blackham [mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com] Sent: 12 March 2012 20:58 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Identifying Apparatus

Re: [PSES] Identifying Apparatus in Europe Declarations of Conformity (DOCs)

2012-03-13 Thread Michael Derby
standards from the EMC OJ and the Safety OJ to demonstrate compliance with articles 3.1b and 3.1a of the RTTE Directive but that doesn't mean you're applying the EMC or Safety Directives. Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: Charlie Blackham [mailto:char

Re: [PSES] Compliance costs too much.

2012-03-29 Thread Michael Derby
, Canada and Europe, I see very real examples of how poor compliance rates do lead to a tightening in the requirements. So, you could also consider it an investment. Just a thought. :-) Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe -Original Message- From: Richard Nute

Re: [PSES] Two Notified Body numbers on a product

2012-06-06 Thread Michael Derby
surveillance authority could ask questions. Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: Charlie Blackham [mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com] Sent: 06 June 2012 09:19 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Two Notified Body numbers on a product Amund

Re: [PSES] ANSI C63.4: 2009

2012-07-16 Thread Michael Derby
not written in the rules yet but it is an acceptable standard to use. http://transition.fcc.gov/oet/ea/eameasurements.html Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: itl-emc user group [mailto:itl...@itl.co.il] Sent: 15 July 2012 04:48 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG

Re: [PSES] SAR standards

2012-07-23 Thread Michael Derby
hope this helps, Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: Robert Heller [mailto:rehel...@mmm.com] Sent: 23 July 2012 12:07 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] SAR standards Are SAR standards (EN 62209-1 for example) harmonized to any Directive

Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] EU sets EMC limits for London Olympics

2012-08-09 Thread Michael Derby
Renewed annually. I don't recall if a dog license is cheaper if you have a black and white dog. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe -Original Message- From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sent: 08 August 2012 21:27 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re

Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] EU sets EMC limits for London Olympics

2012-08-09 Thread Michael Derby
sponsors to worry about. Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen [mailto:g.grem...@cetest.nl] Sent: 08 August 2012 19:58 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] EU sets EMC limits for London Olympics

Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] EU sets EMC limits for London Olympics

2012-08-10 Thread Michael Derby
I confess to a hint of British irony in my e-mail. J Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: Peter Tarver [mailto:ptar...@enphaseenergy.com] Sent: 09 August 2012 23:29 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] EU sets EMC limits for London Olympics

Re: [PSES] France no longer having restriction on WIFI ?‏

2012-08-10 Thread Michael Derby
Commission post this page on ‘Class 1’ devices. http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/sectors/rtte/files/rtte_subclass_july2012_en. pdf You can see sub-class 22 is for WLAN devices. In June, it said “2400-2454 MHz” Now, from July, it says “2400-2483.5 MHz” I hope this helps, Michael. Michael

Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] EU sets EMC limits for London Olympics

2012-08-10 Thread Michael Derby
Thanks Ed, I was thinking back to my days of living in the USA. Maybe I should have said relatively neutral.J Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: Ed Price [mailto:edpr...@cox.net] Sent: 10 August 2012 13:57 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES

Re: [PSES] CE+CE ...

2012-10-12 Thread Michael Derby
applicable to your application. Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe -Original Message- From: Charlie Blackham [mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com] Sent: 12 October 2012 13:19 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] CE+CE ... Amund There's guidance

Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components?

2012-10-31 Thread Michael Derby
the components in the power supply were all cheaper imitations of the components he had instructed the manufacturer to use. D'oh. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe -Original Message- From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sent: 30 October 2012 20:42 To: EMC

Re: [PSES] EN 300 328 V1.8.1 new Adaptive equipment requirements

2012-11-27 Thread Michael Derby
sudden new requirement. EN 300 328 V1.8.1 makes it even more clear and removes the requirement for clarifications in the OJ. As a final comment, yes, there are manufacturers involved in the ETSI group for EN 300 328. :-) Thanks, Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe

Re: [PSES] EN 300 328 V1.8.1 new Adaptive equipment requirements

2012-11-29 Thread Michael Derby
. Honestly, I don't actually hear these voices in my head. Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: Charlie Blackham [mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com] Sent: 29 November 2012 08:31 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] EN 300 328 V1.8.1 new

Re: [PSES] EN 300 328 V1.8.1 new Adaptive equipment requirements

2012-11-29 Thread Michael Derby
I blame too much time between the helmholz coils!!! Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: Nick Williams [mailto:nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk] Sent: 29 November 2012 21:32 To: Michael Derby Cc: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] EN 300 328 V1.8.1 new

Re: [PSES] EN 300 328 V1.8.1 new Adaptive equipment requirements

2012-11-29 Thread Michael Derby
If he had a kind of high pitched, squeaky voice, yes. I do recall I did get a headache every time I put the surge generator through the coils but perhaps that's to be expected. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe -Original Message- From: don_borow...@selinc.com

Re: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs)

2012-12-03 Thread Michael Derby
believe that the proposed new RTTE Directive text should officially allow this approach, I hope. Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: Charlie Blackham [mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com] Sent: 03 December 2012 08:25 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject

Re: [PSES] iPhone 5 TxRx frequencies on 4g

2013-01-07 Thread Michael Derby
. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: Derek Walton [mailto:lfresea...@aol.com] Sent: 06 January 2013 17:14 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] iPhone 5 TxRx frequencies on 4g HI folks, can anyone tell me what transmit and receive frequencies my iPhone 5 uses here

Re: [PSES] One DoC per manufactured Unit?!

2013-01-14 Thread Michael Derby
. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe -Original Message- From: John Cotman [mailto:john.cot...@conformance.co.uk] Sent: 14 January 2013 16:37 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] One DoC per manufactured Unit?! The Toy Safety Directive already has the picture requirement

Re: [PSES] FCC IC and Product Information

2013-01-31 Thread Michael Derby
Hello, You cannot get confidentiality or even short term confidentiality on a test report. You can't keep the results private, sorry. David is correct in his summary below. Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: itl-emc user group [mailto:itl

Re: [PSES] Retesting to latest standards

2013-02-05 Thread Michael Derby
. And yes, this is a volatile topic on this e-mail forum. J Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: Mcburney, Ian [mailto:ian.mcbur...@dmh-global.com] Sent: 05 February 2013 09:50 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Retesting to latest standards

Re: [PSES] EN 60065 A12 - Sound Pressure Restriction

2013-02-15 Thread Michael Derby
with the standard that a device outside the scope of A12 does not present a safety risk. As ever, the Directives are more important than the standards. Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe -Original Message- From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] Sent: 06 February 2013

Re: [PSES] Pager and EMC in US

2013-05-14 Thread Michael Derby
15.109 measurements (and Part 15.209) tests must be performed on a listed test site. https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/TestFirmSearch.cfm I hope this helps? Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: Niels Hougaard [mailto:n...@bolls.dk] Sent: 14

Re: [PSES] Grandfathered ETSI standards for CE Marking?

2013-07-15 Thread Michael Derby
for Europe on RTTE equipment. It's all DoC, to the latest requirements. So, I think you are right. The lab and manufacturer seem like they are wrong. Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: Carl Newton [mailto:emcl...@gmail.com] Sent: 15 July 2013 17:02

Re: [PSES] Grandfathered requirements for ETSI

2013-08-07 Thread Michael Derby
, after all. If that fails, I have the ETSI group chairman's e-mail address, if you want it. J Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: Mark Tucker [mailto:mtuc...@murata.com] Sent: 07 August 2013 18:01 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES

Re: [PSES] Lists Of Harmonised Standards

2013-08-23 Thread Michael Derby
slipped. Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: itl-emc user group [mailto:itl...@itl.co.il] Sent: 22 August 2013 05:18 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Lists Of Harmonised Standards Hi, Does anyone have any leads as to when a new list

Re: [PSES] Verification under FCC rules and our Digital Class A product for industrial use only

2013-08-23 Thread Michael Derby
to television receivers. Being a luxury yacht, it had many television receivers. I confess, I was surprised. Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: Thomas Cokenias [mailto:t...@tncokenias.org] Sent: 22 August 2013 21:43 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG

Re: [PSES] Using existing WiFi FCC data for new FCCID - Yes or No?

2013-09-10 Thread Michael Derby
. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: Grasso, Charles [mailto:charles.gra...@echostar.com] Sent: 30 August 2013 17:20 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Using existing WiFi FCC data for new FCCID - Yes or No? Hello, Given: A product that has a front

Re: [PSES] USA Canada rf emission test standards

2013-09-17 Thread Michael Derby
. There is an FCC rule change proposal in place, to insert the 2009 version and remove the 2003 version. So, in summary, ANSI C63.4-2009 is ok for FCC and Industry Canada. Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: Ian McBurney [mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com] Sent

Re: [PSES] TCBs FCC Shut Down

2013-10-02 Thread Michael Derby
the initial review. So, I think the shopping around idea is no different now, to how it was before. I hope this helps, Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: FW Miller [mailto:f_w_mil...@yahoo.com] Sent: 02 October 2013 19:32 To: EMC-PSTC

Re: [PSES] Risk Assessments and mitigation for EMC chambers

2014-01-10 Thread Michael Derby
If they make microwaves to look more like the carry cases you take a cat to the vet in, then it becomes almost impossible to get the cat to go in there. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: IBM Ken [mailto:ibm...@gmail.com] Sent: 10 January 2014 16:30 To: EMC-PSTC

Re: [PSES] FCC draft comments on WiFi operation in channels 12 and 13

2014-01-31 Thread Michael Derby
this helps. Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: Curtis Mc Namara [mailto:mcnam...@umn.edu] Sent: 30 January 2014 23:48 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] FCC draft comments on WiFi operation in channels 12 and 13 FCC Draft KDB 594280 Software

Re: [PSES] RFID - USA

2014-03-06 Thread Michael Derby
the general emissions limits of 15.209 and certify to Part 15C. Thanks, Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: mel soliven [mailto:mel_soli...@yahoo.com] Sent: 07 March 2014 03:11 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] RFID - USA Dear Experts

Re: [PSES] Concerning FCC classification of digital devices

2014-03-14 Thread Michael Derby
class JBP. Thanks, Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: Niels Hougaard [mailto:n...@bolls.dk] Sent: 14 March 2014 14:05 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Concerning FCC classification of digital devices Dear list members, Being

Re: [PSES] Concerning FCC classification of digital devices

2014-03-14 Thread Michael Derby
That's correct Cortland. If the USB is only used for charging (not data transfer), then it does not count as a 'peripheral' and therefore Verification as Digital Device can be used. Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: CR [mailto:k...@earthlink.net] Sent

Re: [PSES] New EU Directives

2014-05-27 Thread Michael Derby
. . Responsible parties. . Market surveillance. . Process for Class 2 devices. ..to name but a few. Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: Jim Hulbert [mailto:jim.hulb...@pb.com] Sent: 23 May 2014 18:24 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject

Re: [PSES] New EU Directives

2014-06-09 Thread Michael Derby
, in particular, of the non-compliance and of any corrective measures taken. Thanks, Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe -Original Message- From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] Sent: 06 June 2014 16:20 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] New EU Directives

Re: [PSES] New EU Directives

2014-06-09 Thread Michael Derby
of the EMC and Safety Directives, with a few noteworthy exceptions. (For example, there is no minimum voltage limit for radio equipment, so all battery powered equipment would need a safety assessment) Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe -Original Message- From: John

Re: [PSES] List of Harmonised standards for RED

2014-06-09 Thread Michael Derby
OJ for RED? 11:59pm on 11th June 2016 ? J Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: Charlie Blackham [mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com] Sent: 08 June 2014 20:32 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] List of Harmonised standards for RED David

Re: [PSES] 802.11a (5GHz WiFi) requires CE Alert sign, right?

2014-07-31 Thread Michael Derby
. Look which one is number 1 on the list… J …. http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/sectors/rtte/files/rtte-subclass2_en.pdf Thanks, Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: Dave Heald [mailto:emcp...@gmail.com] Sent: 31 July 2014 18:38 To: EMC-PSTC

Re: [PSES] Definition of unsafe product

2014-07-31 Thread Michael Derby
. There are plenty of things which must be assessed by manufacturers independently before they make it into harmonised standards. So, maybe it was unsafe? Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe -Original Message- From: Crane, Lauren [mailto:lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com] Sent: 31

Re: [PSES] 802.11a (5GHz WiFi) requires CE Alert sign, right?

2014-07-31 Thread Michael Derby
12 June 2016 to prepare and we must be able to use the RED by 12 June 2016. The RTTE Directive will be repealed on 12 June 2016. But yes, as Lauren says, under the RED the Alert Symbol will no longer be part of the labelling requirements. Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory

Re: [PSES] 802.11a (5GHz WiFi)

2014-08-01 Thread Michael Derby
/official/word/ECCDec0408.doc Also, it's listed as a Class 2 device on the EU website: http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/sectors/rtte/files/rtte-subclass2_en.pdf Scroll down to page 2 and it confirms why it is Class 2. Indoor use only. Thanks, Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory

Re: [PSES] E-Labelling?

2014-08-04 Thread Michael Derby
and EMC, so the user should not be plugging a device into a mains charger if they have not yet seen the CE Mark. J Thanks, Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: Mike Violette [mailto:mi...@acbcert.com] Sent: 01 August 2014 19:42 To: EMC-PSTC

Re: [PSES] E-Labelling?

2014-08-04 Thread Michael Derby
HI Paul, Good point…. Disclaimer, I only had my RTTE hat on. J Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: Paul Lovell (plovell) [mailto:plov...@cisco.com] Sent: 04 August 2014 11:20 To: Michael Derby; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] E

Re: [PSES] E-Labelling?

2014-08-04 Thread Michael Derby
if there are mixed messages about whether it is just for customs and MSAs, or if it's for the user also? Not disagreeing, just thinking. Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: 04 August 2014 11:14

[PSES] European RTTE Class 1 and 2 devices.

2014-08-04 Thread Michael Derby
Hello all, As we've been talking about the RTTE Class 1 and 2 devices, the lists have been updated: http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/sectors/rtte/documents/index_en.htm#h2-5 Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe Certification Resource for the Wireless

Re: [PSES] Applicable SAR standard for a VoIP GSM Gateway

2014-09-05 Thread Michael Derby
. Michael Derby Senior Regulatory Engineer Director ACB Europe From: Michael Loerzer [mailto:loerzer_mob...@globalnorm.de] Sent: 05 September 2014 15:58 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Applicable SAR standard for a VoIP GSM Gateway Hi, regarding health and safety

Re: [PSES] weird stuff in agency agreement form

2014-09-12 Thread Michael Derby
is that the Notified Body must be able to turn up and check. At least, that's what I was told. Michael. Michael Derby Senior Regulatory Engineer Director ACB Europe From: Nick Williams [mailto:nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk] Sent: 11 September 2014 23:03 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG

Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe

2014-10-30 Thread Michael Derby
a practical point of view, it is also impossible. Michael. Michael Derby Senior Regulatory Engineer Director ACB Europe From: Anthony Thomson [mailto:ton...@europe.com] Sent: 29 October 2014 15:00 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive

Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe

2014-10-30 Thread Michael Derby
of them don’t seem to know how to test. Michael. Michael Derby Senior Regulatory Engineer Director ACB Europe From: Anthony Thomson [mailto:ton...@europe.com] Sent: 30 October 2014 09:16 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please

Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe

2014-10-30 Thread Michael Derby
Hi John, What would the disclaimer be in this case? Disclaimer: We are not a Notified Body to the RE Directive and this document is legally invalid as a Notified Body certificate ? It doesn't sound like a very useful certificate. Michael. Michael Derby Senior Regulatory Engineer

Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe

2014-10-30 Thread Michael Derby
Yes, ETSI are working on new standards and updates to old standards. As you say, they do have a timeline goal to work towards! Michael. Michael Derby Senior Regulatory Engineer Director ACB Europe From: rpick...@rpqconsulting.com [mailto:rpick...@rpqconsulting.com] Sent: 30

Re: [PSES] Brick power supplies and test errors (two topics)

2014-12-18 Thread Michael Derby
engineer who is happy to stay in the test lab. Michael. Michael Derby Senior Regulatory Engineer Director ACB Europe -Original Message- From: Brian Oconnell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: 17 December 2014 21:36 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Brick power

Re: [PSES] Brick power supplies and test errors (two topics)

2014-12-18 Thread Michael Derby
appear to be really busy. So, there’s hope yet. Michael. Michael Derby Senior Regulatory Engineer Director ACB Europe From: Anthony Thomson [mailto:ton...@europe.com] Sent: 18 December 2014 10:35 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Brick power supplies and test

Re: [PSES] EMC on Industrial Cut-Off Saws

2015-02-04 Thread Michael Derby
…..” If they fix that, I’ll have to start talking about SAR levels and then I won’t get invited to dinner any more. Michael. Michael Derby Senior Regulatory Engineer Director ACB Europe From: Doug Powell [mailto:doug...@gmail.com] Sent: 03 February 2015 15:22 To: EMC-PSTC

Re: [PSES] EMC on Industrial Cut-Off Saws

2015-02-04 Thread Michael Derby
Ha ha ha. You know you’re in a boring job when you pretend to be a drug dealer to enhance your social acceptability. J Michael Derby Senior Regulatory Engineer Director ACB Europe From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sent: 04 February 2015 13:38 To: EMC-PSTC

Re: [PSES] EMC on Industrial Cut-Off Saws

2015-02-08 Thread Michael Derby
themselves confidence. but of course the type of companies who discuss this with me might not represent a true demographic of all manufacturers out there. :-) Michael. Michael Derby Senior Regulatory Engineer Director ACB Europe -Original Message- From: CR [mailto:k

Re: [PSES] Harmonised Standards for EMC Directive 2014/30/EU and Low Voltage Directive 2014/35/EU

2015-03-19 Thread Michael Derby
Hello all, I don't know if this helps and maybe it's not the full answer, but I remember the conversation regarding colour photographs on the DoC when we were progressing the early drafts of the new Radio Equipment Directive. There is an attempt to harmonise the administrative requirements

Re: [PSES] Integrating radio COSTs into other equipment

2015-05-11 Thread Michael Derby
Hello Amund, This is a general reply about installing CE Marked radio modules into host products.. The important thing to remember is that there no certification process under the RTTE Directive and also no modular approvals. Anyone installing the module into a product becomes responsible

Re: [PSES] Integrating radio COSTs into other equipment

2015-05-12 Thread Michael Derby
. -Original Message- From: Crane, Lauren [mailto:lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com] Sent: 12 May 2015 00:11 To: Michael Derby; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] Integrating radio COSTs into other equipment Michael, Do you think this applies to the case for installing a finished product

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Integrating radio COSTs into other equipment

2015-05-12 Thread Michael Derby
reasons, which justifies re-testing on the final product? Amund -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Michael Derby [mailto:micha...@acbcert.com] Sendt: 11. mai 2015 13:10 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: Re: [PSES] Integrating radio COSTs into other equipment Hello Amund

Re: [PSES] Interference Caused by Microwave Oven

2015-05-15 Thread Michael Derby
This isn't a particularly helpful contribution, but when I use my microwave (used correctly, with the door closed), my Bluetooth speaker completely stops working and any WiFi activity grinds to a halt. I try to keep the kids away from the microwave when it's in use, as much as I can. Michael.

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] 802.11a (5GHz WiFi) requires CE Alert sign, right?

2015-04-13 Thread Michael Derby
Hello Amund, I don't know if your question relates to the RED timing conversation below (which I think has been fully answered by Nick); or if this is a new question relating to the general requirements of the RTTE Directive (and perhaps the RED in the future). So, I will assume it's a

Re: [PSES] EU Customs and EMC test report

2015-06-15 Thread Michael Derby
Hello, As others have said, I do not think the Directive needs to be listed in the test reports. You test to standards and the manufacturer deals with the Directive. Probably, the person saw the incorrect Directive reference and flagged it up. If there had not been any reference to any

Re: [PSES] DoC on final product

2015-06-01 Thread Michael Derby
Hello Amund, Yes, I would say that you do need to list the module's radio standards on the DoC of the final product. After all, the person putting the final product on the market is effectively using those standards to state compliance of their new radio product. Those standards are used to

Re: [PSES] Radio in class A product

2015-05-27 Thread Michael Derby
Hello Dieter, In addition to the responses you already received (which I like), I would ask you to check that your host ITE product is really 'ancillary equipment', as defined in EN 301 489-1. I think that as others have pointed out, your host product will most likely continue to need to

Re: [PSES] New EMC Directive 2014/30/EU LV Directive 2014/35/EU

2015-08-24 Thread Michael Derby
Hi Scott, Annex IV of 2014/53/EC is similar to Annex V of 1999/5/EC. It’s an alternative compliance route, not necessarily a test report issue. Michael. From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] Sent: 24 August 2015 14:59 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] New

Re: [PSES] FCC market surveillance

2015-08-10 Thread Michael Derby
Hello Amund, The FCC do perform market surveillance on certified products and every TCB must also perform market surveillance on 5% of the devices they have certified. The TCB must report the findings of their surveillance to the FCC each year. I think the results are not openly reported, but I

Re: [PSES] FCC Labelling

2015-10-27 Thread Michael Derby
Hi Ian, You are almost correct. The FCC's logo is only for devices which have been authorised under the DoC process. Devices which have verification or certification, do not show the FCC logo. Of course, if there is a mixture of authorisation routes and one of them is DoC, then the

Re: [PSES] One DoCs vs multiple DoCs

2015-11-06 Thread Michael Derby
Hello Brian, As the various EU Directives become recast and/or re-written, they will all include the requirement to issue one DoC for the whole product, for all the applicable Directives. As you mentioned, you could have one for RoHS, EMD and Safety. It is acceptable to have a dossier of

Re: [PSES] FW: EMCTLA - White Paper - Modes of Operation for EMC Testing

2015-09-14 Thread Michael Derby
Hello, Yes, I think taking the comments to GEL 210 would be on the agenda for this working idea. ETSI too, of course. The history of it is this Some members had noticed a lot of EMC test reports which simply don't explain how the device was tested, monitored or assessed for compliance.

Re: [PSES] EU OJ today

2016-06-09 Thread Michael Derby
Thanks Charlie. I think you make a good point. The fact is that for the EMC Directive; using a harmonised standard on a presently valid OJ gives you presumption of conformity. Of course need to do a risk assessment that nothing has been missed out by your device being ahead of the

Re: [PSES] Bluetooth audio product

2016-02-09 Thread Michael Derby
it with minimal testing effort and no additional radio authorisation. If the Bluetooth is not a module, or it is a module which is not certified, then it will need to be tested and certified. Please let me know if this has given you any answers, or just more questions! Michael. Michael Derby

Re: [PSES] Prototype batch ... CE applies?

2016-03-08 Thread Michael Derby
Hello Amund, I agree that you should be CE Marking these devices, as they are placed on the market for normal use. If there is any flexibility to be found, then maybe it is in your application of the Directive. For example, the typical way to comply with the Directive would be to fully apply

Re: [PSES] Colour of affixed CE Mark?

2016-03-01 Thread Michael Derby
erent forms (e.g. colour, solid/hollow) as long as it remains visible, legible and respects its proportions." Thanks, Michael. Michael Derby Senior Regulatory Engineer Director ACB Europe Certification Resource for the Wireless Industry Web: www.acbcert

Re: [PSES] Maximum Allowed Duty Cycle Correction Factor per FCC 15.35

2016-04-04 Thread Michael Derby
Hi Grace, I think this is a mistake. I think there is not a maximum allowed duty cycle of 20 dB. I think this mistake comes from the fact that there is a peak limit which exists at 20 dB higher than the average limit.

Re: [PSES] NFC Near Field Communication Devices

2016-05-09 Thread Michael Derby
and therefore do require Japanese certification too. Thanks, Michael. From: Michael Derby [mailto:micha...@acbcert.com] Sent: 05 May 2016 15:06 To: 'Kunde, Brian' <brian_ku...@lecotc.com>; 'EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG' <EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: RE: [PSES] NFC Near Field C

Re: [PSES] NFC Near Field Communication Devices

2016-05-05 Thread Michael Derby
Hi Brian, Which geographical region are you interested in? USA. FCC Certification to FCC 15.225 Test lab must presently be listed with FCC, but will require a recognised accreditation very soon. Unlicensed transmitter, but certification is required. Canada. ISED Certification to

Re: [PSES] SAFETTY FEATURES controlled by ....SOFTWARE

2016-08-04 Thread Michael Derby
I guess you would get a similar answer from Volkswagen these days. :-) Michael. -Original Message- From: Brian O'Connell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: 03 August 2016 18:10 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] SAFETTY FEATURES controlled by SOFTWARE Dear

Re: [PSES] EU OJ today - EN55013/20 missing

2016-08-15 Thread Michael Derby
Hello, You are correct that you can continue to use the EMCD and LVD until the end of the RED transition period. (See this useful document: http://ec.europa.eu/DocsRoom/documents/11983/attachments/1/translations/en/r enditions/native ) It's true that if the standards are not listed in

Re: [PSES] EU OJ today - EN55013/20 missing

2016-08-16 Thread Michael Derby
(depending on the understanding of the person you’re talking to); but it should be very easy to justify that those are the correct standards to use. Thanks, Michael. From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] Sent: 15 August 2016 18:06 To: Michael Derby <micha...@acbcert.com>; EM

Re: [PSES] Conformity assessment under RED

2017-02-20 Thread Michael Derby
and BT/Wifi enabled units, it can use the HSs in RED/LVD/EMC of OJEU without the use of NB as per the interpretation of below. Thanks, Scott On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 6:00 AM, Michael Derby <micha...@acbcert.com <mailto:micha...@acbcert.com> > wrote: Hi Nick, You ar

Re: [PSES] EN 55020

2017-02-18 Thread Michael Derby
Meanwhile; for Article 3.2 of the RED, remember that the new standard is EN 303 345. http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_en/303300_303399/303345/01.01.01_20/en_3033 45v010101a.pdf And for the Bluetooth, of course it would be EN 300 328 V2.1.1. Thanks, Michael. From: Larry K.

Re: [PSES] Co-located modules

2017-02-15 Thread Michael Derby
Hi Stephen, One thing to remember is that “must not be co-located” really just means “must not be co-located without some additional effort” For example, co-locating two modules and then calculating the new combined RF Exposure MPE value to verify that the product still meets the

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