Re: [PSES] To NRTL or not NRTL, that is the question

2022-10-04 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
My recollection is that NFPA 70 does require various equipment to be listed, but I am not sure that NFPA 70 directly links to that OSHA web site. It would seem odd to me for a consensus standard like NFPA 70 to include requirements that could potentially be changed by OSHA without following a

Re: [PSES] To NRTL or not NRTL, that is the question

2022-10-04 Thread James Pawson (U3C)
Hello everyone, Thank you for all the replies. Some of them confirmed my existing understanding but there were more that revealed more questions. Summary of previous points (please call these out for lack of accuracy) 1. Safety testing not explicitly based on any kind of voltage

Re: [PSES] To NRTL or not NRTL, that is the question

2022-09-28 Thread Dave Pedersen
Hi James, In your email below, you say, “The question comes from a customer who was emailed by one of his US customers stating that he should have "UL listing".” The US customer might be concerned about regulatory requirements in the US. They also might be concerned because the part in

Re: [PSES] To NRTL or not NRTL, that is the question

2022-09-28 Thread S Drysdale
Avoiding showing bias towards or against any particular NRTL, here is a list of current NRTLs, each with their own specific scope: https://www.osha.gov/nationally-recognized-testing-laboratory-program/current-list-of-nrtls IMHO - it is nobler in the mind to suffer the compliance cost then it is

Re: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] Re: [PSES] To NRTL or not NRTL, that is the question

2022-09-27 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
Many retailers who sell consumer goods will require NRTL marking on electrical goods as part of their purchase contract with you. Mike Sherman Sherman PSC LLC > On 09/27/2022 5:03 PM Knudsen, Patty > <1c82e1717b3f-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> wrote: > > > > OSHA regulates

Re: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] Re: [PSES] To NRTL or not NRTL, that is the question

2022-09-27 Thread Knudsen, Patty
OSHA regulates the USA workplace, but a lot of local USA jurisdictions (Los Angeles, California, for one) require NRTL approval for consumer products. There are many NRTL agencies (UL, CSA, Nemko, Intertek, TUV are a few) that can do the job. Patty From: Kevin Robinson Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [PSES] To NRTL or not NRTL, that is the question

2022-09-27 Thread Kevin Robinson
OSHA requires any electrical product being used in the workplace to be tested and certified by an NRTL. There is no lower voltage or power limit. A “UL Listing” and “NRTL Certification” are the same thing. The difference being the UL Listing is a NRTL Listing specifically from UL (similar to

[PSES] AW: [PSES] To NRTL or not NRTL, that is the question

2022-09-27 Thread Dürrer Bernd
Hello James, I propose to check Annex A of the National Electrical Code NFPA 70 (NFPA 70®: National Electrical Code®) that contains a list of product safety standards used for product

[PSES] To NRTL or not NRTL, that is the question

2022-09-27 Thread James Pawson (U3C)
Hello experts, I'm trying to understand what electrical products require NRTL approval for electrical safety for sale in the United States. Looking on the OSHA website I find this page (https://www.osha.gov/nationally-recognized-testing-laboratory-program/products-requiring-approval) which