Re: [PSES] [Spam] Re: [PSES] "how to fish" - UKCA extension legislation.
For thiose interested in watching the debate in the House of Lords, you can watch a recording here: https://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/4325a224-3bdd-4b1b-a707-dbb82b7c8f8c?in=17:20:16 Doug Nix d...@ieee.org +1 (519) 729-5704 > On Dec 15, 2022, at 10:33, Rick Linford > <1e1aaf8064ca-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> wrote: > > https://www.gov.uk/guidance/using-the-ukca-marking > <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gov.uk%2Fguidance%2Fusing-the-ukca-marking=05%7C01%7Crlinford%40SonicWall.com%7Cb46ed46e0879416e542b08dade3d8a73%7C84fe6f401cbc473083288018b2af88bc%7C1%7C0%7C638066653161587789%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=YJA4f0VBahx3EDwBBKvHWNcNMjkC%2F1GbsS9R4k8PBzU%3D=0> > > > > > Rick > > > From: Douglas Nix <0bb8ff993b10-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org > <mailto:0bb8ff993b10-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org>> > Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2022 9:34 AM > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> > Subject: Re: [PSES] [Spam] Re: [PSES] "how to fish" - UKCA extension > legislation. > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click > links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the > content is safe. > > > Hi Andrew and Rick, > > The next stage is a reading in the House of Lords on Dec. 13. Since the Torys > are in a majority government position in the UK, the chances of this SI not > passing debate in the House of Lords is probably close to zero. > Unfortunately, it doesn’t appear as if it will be possible to watch the > debate live, although I’m hunting to see if that might be possible. If it is > I will post to this thread. > > Mr. Doug Nix C.E.T. > +1 (519) 729 5704 > > d...@mac.com <mailto:d...@mac.com> > d...@ieee.org <mailto:d...@ieee.org> > —— > "Imaginary evils are incurable.” — Marie von Ebner-Eschenbach, Austrian writer > > > > > > > > On Dec 8, 2022, at 04:46, Andrew Wood > <170ccaf92990-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org > <mailto:170ccaf92990-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org>> wrote: > > Apologies Rick > Just noticed that I have repeated your question. > Andy > > Regards, > > Andrew Wood > Compliance Manager – Hazardous Areas > > > <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ametek-land.com%2F=05%7C01%7Crlinford%40SonicWall.com%7C45f0dcab3da844924cdf08dad93a1ed8%7C84fe6f401cbc473083288018b2af88bc%7C1%7C1%7C638061140904156520%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=XI0wjks%2FoDJiKG6%2Fa2oFe1jrg6EanRRvx0DdPAo%2F2BE%3D=0> > > Direct: +44 (0) 1246 581592 > Address: AMETEK Land, Stubley Lane, Dronfield, Derbyshire. S18 1DJ England > E-mail: andrew.w...@ametek.com| <mailto:andrew.w...@ametek.com> Web: > www.ametek-land.com > <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ametek-land.com%2F=05%7C01%7Crlinford%40SonicWall.com%7C45f0dcab3da844924cdf08dad93a1ed8%7C84fe6f401cbc473083288018b2af88bc%7C1%7C1%7C638061140904156520%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=NxqV72p92wEpDwNuO%2B5Gy1a79F2YzAuLpL5zFop78%2BA%3D=0> > > > <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ametek-land.com%2Fcontactus%2Fkeepinguptodate=05%7C01%7Crlinford%40SonicWall.com%7C45f0dcab3da844924cdf08dad93a1ed8%7C84fe6f401cbc473083288018b2af88bc%7C1%7C1%7C638061140904156520%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=srUrEj7DNm%2Bn1vlnVFXharhLcxRjfqwIWlcRZ9RVpQ0%3D=0> > > From: Rick Linford <1e1aaf8064ca-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org > <mailto:1e1aaf8064ca-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org>> > Sent: 07 December 2022 23:07 > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> > Subject: Re: [PSES] [Spam] Re: [PSES] "how to fish" - UKCA extension > legislation. > > ***NOTICE*** This came from an external source. Use caution when replying, > clicking links, or opening attachments. > Hi Doug, > > Great link, but sorry for my ignorance of UK governance. To be clear this was > a committee approval, it still needs to be approved by full House of Commons > and the House of Lords before it is law, is that correct? > > Does it require Prime Minister’s signature? > > @ Lauren Crane thanks for getting this started. The proverb about teaching a > man(person) to fish comes to mind
Re: [PSES] [Spam] Re: [PSES] "how to fish" - UKCA extension legislation.
Hi Andrew and Rick, The next stage is a reading in the House of Lords on Dec. 13. Since the Torys are in a majority government position in the UK, the chances of this SI not passing debate in the House of Lords is probably close to zero. Unfortunately, it doesn’t appear as if it will be possible to watch the debate live, although I’m hunting to see if that might be possible. If it is I will post to this thread. Mr. Doug Nix C.E.T. +1 (519) 729 5704 d...@mac.com d...@ieee.org —— "Imaginary evils are incurable.” — Marie von Ebner-Eschenbach, Austrian writer > On Dec 8, 2022, at 04:46, Andrew Wood > <170ccaf92990-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> wrote: > > Apologies Rick > Just noticed that I have repeated your question. > Andy > > Regards, > > Andrew Wood > Compliance Manager – Hazardous Areas > > <https://www.ametek-land.com/> > > Direct: +44 (0) 1246 581592 > Address: AMETEK Land, Stubley Lane, Dronfield, Derbyshire. S18 1DJ England > E-mail: andrew.w...@ametek.com| <mailto:andrew.w...@ametek.com> Web: > www.ametek-land.com <http://www.ametek-land.com/> > > <https://www.ametek-land.com/contactus/keepinguptodate> > > From: Rick Linford <1e1aaf8064ca-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org > <mailto:1e1aaf8064ca-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org>> > Sent: 07 December 2022 23:07 > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> > Subject: Re: [PSES] [Spam] Re: [PSES] "how to fish" - UKCA extension > legislation. > > ***NOTICE*** This came from an external source. Use caution when replying, > clicking links, or opening attachments. > Hi Doug, > > Great link, but sorry for my ignorance of UK governance. To be clear this was > a committee approval, it still needs to be approved by full House of Commons > and the House of Lords before it is law, is that correct? > > Does it require Prime Minister’s signature? > > @ Lauren Crane thanks for getting this started. The proverb about teaching a > man(person) to fish comes to mind. And yet I still asked questions. > > Rick > > From: Douglas Nix <0bb8ff993b10-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org > <mailto:00000bb8ff993b10-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2022 8:19 AM > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> > Subject: [Spam] Re: [PSES] "how to fish" - UKCA extension legislation. > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click > links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the > content is safe. > > > Andrew, Colleagues, > > I watched the proceeding today, and the proposal received acceptance after > some debate. If you missed it, you can view the recording here: > https://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/072dac0e-318e-403b-bd0c-29d3834427dd#player-tabs/ > > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/parliamentlive.tv/event/index/072dac0e-318e-403b-bd0c-29d3834427dd*player-tabs/__;Iw!!HKOSU0g!HERlstT76msjeGyLRmciSMvzFT6KkdsyXhxgqcpvr6xB5TN9wVq4pS139R8_GTeLanbNOP2Pp9PpcrEg-A1Z5aWDoicVRZm2nfk$>. > It’s also possible to download a recording for those that want to obsess > over the details. > > There is no further clarity on plans for the future beyond the extension of > the mandatory implementation date. > > Doug Nix > d...@mac.com <mailto:d...@mac.com> > > "The way to solve the conflict between human values and technological needs > is not to run away from technology. That's impossible. The way to resolve the > conflict is to break down the barriers of dualistic thought that prevent a > real understanding of what technology is – not an exploitation of nature, but > a fusion of nature and the human spirit into a new kind of creation that > transcends both." – Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, Robert M. > Pirsig > > > > > > > On Dec 6, 2022, at 05:12, Andrew Wood > <170ccaf92990-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org > <mailto:170ccaf92990-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org>> wrote: > > Lauren, > Thanks for this info. > Having browsed around the parliament website a little, I have found that the > SI has it’s own webpage and appears to be scheduled for another committee > meeting tomorrow at 2.30pm (that will be GMT) that is available to watch on > parliament.tv > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http*3A*2F*2Fparliament.tv*2F=05*7C01*7Crlinford*40SonicWall.com*7C8fa409a561044fd7807c08dad8669d83*7C84fe6f401cbc473083288018b2af88bc*7C1*7C1*7C638060232482249368*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC
Re: [PSES] [Spam] Re: [PSES] "how to fish" - UKCA extension legislation.
Hi Doug, Great link, but sorry for my ignorance of UK governance. To be clear this was a committee approval, it still needs to be approved by full House of Commons and the House of Lords before it is law, is that correct? Does it require Prime Minister's signature? @ Lauren Crane thanks for getting this started. The proverb about teaching a man(person) to fish comes to mind. And yet I still asked questions. Rick From: Douglas Nix <0bb8ff993b10-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2022 8:19 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [Spam] Re: [PSES] "how to fish" - UKCA extension legislation. CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Andrew, Colleagues, I watched the proceeding today, and the proposal received acceptance after some debate. If you missed it, you can view the recording here: https://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/072dac0e-318e-403b-bd0c-29d3834427dd#player-tabs/. It's also possible to download a recording for those that want to obsess over the details. There is no further clarity on plans for the future beyond the extension of the mandatory implementation date. Doug Nix d...@mac.com<mailto:d...@mac.com> "The way to solve the conflict between human values and technological needs is not to run away from technology. That's impossible. The way to resolve the conflict is to break down the barriers of dualistic thought that prevent a real understanding of what technology is - not an exploitation of nature, but a fusion of nature and the human spirit into a new kind of creation that transcends both." - Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, Robert M. Pirsig On Dec 6, 2022, at 05:12, Andrew Wood <170ccaf92990-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org<mailto:170ccaf92990-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org>> wrote: Lauren, Thanks for this info. Having browsed around the parliament website a little, I have found that the SI has it's own webpage and appears to be scheduled for another committee meeting tomorrow at 2.30pm (that will be GMT) that is available to watch on parliament.tv<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fparliament.tv%2F=05%7C01%7Crlinford%40SonicWall.com%7C8fa409a561044fd7807c08dad8669d83%7C84fe6f401cbc473083288018b2af88bc%7C1%7C1%7C638060232482249368%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=xioyJwzrG9xKbL0Ydl2BowHJULClqt9FzobCydwNGl4%3D=0>. >From the link you gave >https://commonsbusiness.parliament.uk/<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcommonsbusiness.parliament.uk%2F=05%7C01%7Crlinford%40SonicWall.com%7C8fa409a561044fd7807c08dad8669d83%7C84fe6f401cbc473083288018b2af88bc%7C1%7C1%7C638060232482249368%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=vcwDmqGXjoqROXu1zHHTt7oikW87RittcxjRM%2F00t1s%3D=0> > scroll down to other business on the left and select 3rd item down >Statutory Instruments, enter "metrology" in the search box and the top hit is >this SI. Clicking through brings up the webpage which opens by default on >"details". Click the timeline tab just above dates laid and notice a debate >scheduled for tomorrow 7th December. Clicking on that brings you to this page: https://committees.parliament.uk/event/16420<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcommittees.parliament.uk%2Fevent%2F16420=05%7C01%7Crlinford%40SonicWall.com%7C8fa409a561044fd7807c08dad8669d83%7C84fe6f401cbc473083288018b2af88bc%7C1%7C1%7C638060232482249368%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=zIixiYXoVFmSgVd2eJhuUp4nEP5hsb6LWWp%2B4WvcRSo%3D=0> Hope this might be of interest. Andy Regards, Andrew Wood Compliance Manager - Hazardous Areas <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ametek-land.com%2F=05%7C01%7Crlinford%40SonicWall.com%7C8fa409a561044fd7807c08dad8669d83%7C84fe6f401cbc473083288018b2af88bc%7C1%7C1%7C638060232482249368%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=TgUEoLyZ5zS8b84lEyXFexLbymPR54is9uZv8oJt22M%3D=0> Direct: +44 (0) 1246 581592 Address: AMETEK Land, Stubley Lane, Dronfield, Derbyshire. S18 1DJ England E-mail: andrew.w...@ametek.com|<mailto:andrew.w...@ametek.com> Web: www.ametek-land.com<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ametek-land.com%2F=05%7C01%7Crlinford%40SonicWall.com%7C8fa409a561044fd7807c08dad8669d83%7C84fe6f401cbc473083288018b2af88bc%7C1%7C1%7C638060232482249368%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%
