Re: [PSES] BS EN 62493:2015 Assessment of lighting equipment related to human exposure to electromagnetic fields

2018-04-27 Thread Matthew Wilson
I looked at the scope of the EN 62493:2015 standard and was confused by a 
statement at the end of section 1 scope on page 9 (of the preview).  It states 
“This standard does not apply to built-in components for luminaires such as 
electronic controlgear.”

What is supposed to be meant by that and why would it not apply?

Electronic controlgear is defined in the standard as

3.1.5
electronic controlgear
mains-supplied a.c./d.c. to a.c./d.c. invertor including stabilizing elements 
for starting and operating one or more lamps, generally at high frequency
Note 1 to entry: All kinds of igniters, starters, switches, dimmers (including 
phase control units e.g. triac, GTO) and sensors are not considered as 
electronic controlgear.

e.g. Say we have a LED ‘table lamp’ which is a luminaire with the AC-DC 
switch-mode power supply for the LED lamp, or perhaps a battery and some 
voltage regulation for the LED, along with some additional circuity to maybe 
dim the LED lamp all built in to the base of the luminaire. The LED in a holder 
above the base, nice shade over it etc. Does that statement in the scope mean 
none of that electronics in the base has to meet the standard?  So if that is 
the case, and all excluded, what exactly is there left to test for 
electromagnetic fields?

Thanks for any help with my confusion.  I’m not being daft am I? (It has been 
known!)

Matthew Wilson,
Technical Director,
GB Electronics (UK) Ltd.

From: Pete Perkins [mailto:0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org]
Sent: 09 April 2018 19:20
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] BS EN 62493:2015 Assessment of lighting equipment related 
to human exposure to electromagnetic fields

Andy,

   I have not used 62493 so I’m not familiar with the details; I 
looked it up on the IEC website to get an idea as to what it covered and 
reported their summary.

   In reading thru this I see several points here.
1) The broad band radiation up to 300MHz must be for radiated emissions;
2) light itself is very limited in frequency and bandwidth so this must apply 
to the SMPS which are driving the lamps.  Interestingly enough I have seen 
quite robust Touch Current measurements from LED lighting SMPS; which will 
eventually be tamed by proper Touch Current measurements which include the up 
to 1Mhz HF portion allowed by the human body response to HF current.  But note 
that these HF components exist and can give rise to both conducted and radiated 
emissions;
3) SAR measurements indicate radiated emissions which would apply to LED 
systems (including their SMPS) which are worn on or close to the human body in 
their application.

   Perhaps someone else on this thread has more definite insight 
into the application and the need for these requirements; it would be good to 
hear from them.

:>) br,  Pete

Peter E Perkins, PE
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PO Box 23427
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From: McCallum, Andy 
mailto:andy.mccal...@mottmac.com>>
Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 7:52 AM
To: Pete Perkins mailto:peperkin...@cs.com>>
Subject: RE: [PSES] BS EN 62493:2015 Assessment of lighting equipment related 
to human exposure to electromagnetic fields

Pete

Thanks yes it is LED so not an issue. Out of interest what type of lighting 
does it cover? The exemption list is quite comprehensive.

Andy

From: Pete Perkins [mailto:peperkin...@cs.com]
Sent: 29 March 2018 19:11
To: McCallum, Andy 
mailto:andy.mccal...@mottmac.com>>; 
EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
Subject: RE: [PSES] BS EN 62493:2015 Assessment of lighting equipment related 
to human exposure to electromagnetic fields

Andy,

   Just to clarify:

Abstract; IEC 62493:2015 applies to the assessment of lighting equipment 
related to human exposure to electromagnetic fields. The assessment consists of 
the induced internal electric field for frequencies from 20 kHz to 10 MHz and 
the specific absorption rate (SAR) for frequencies from 100 kHz to 300 MHz 
around lighting equipment. This second edition cancels and replaces the first 
edition published in 2009. This edition constitutes a technical revision. This 
edition includes the following significant technical changes with respect to 
the previous edition:
a) identification of lighting product types deemed to comply with the standard 
without the need for test;
b) deletion of the need for CISPR-15-compliance as a prerequisite for IEC 62493 
compliance;
c) inclusion of the consequences of the ICNIPR 2010 guidelines for (up to 100 
kHz);
d) adding some guidance to the Van der Hoofden test head method to improve 
reproducibility of results;
e) inclusion of compliance demonstration method for products having intentional 
radiators.

   Does your lighting product fall under the exemption?

:>) br, 

Re: [PSES] BS EN 62493:2015 Assessment of lighting equipment related to human exposure to electromagnetic fields

2018-04-09 Thread Mike Sherman
At www.evs.ee you can get this preview for free 
https://www.evs.ee/preview/evs-en-62493-2015-en.pdf 
and buy the full standard for 19 euros. 

Mike Sherman 
Graco Inc. 

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From: "Pete Perkins" <0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org> 
To: "EMC-PSTC"  
Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 1:19:50 PM 
Subject: Re: [PSES] BS EN 62493:2015 Assessment of lighting equipment related 
to human exposure to electromagnetic fields 



Andy, 



I have not used 62493 so I’m not familiar with the details; I looked it up on 
the IEC website to get an idea as to what it covered and reported their 
summary. 



In reading thru this I see several points here. 

1) The broad band radiation up to 300MHz must be for radiated emissions; 

2) light itself is very limited in frequency and bandwidth so this must apply 
to the SMPS which are driving the lamps. Interestingly enough I have seen quite 
robust Touch Current measurements from LED lighting SMPS; which will eventually 
be tamed by proper Touch Current measurements which include the up to 1Mhz HF 
portion allowed by the human body response to HF current. But note that these 
HF components exist and can give rise to both conducted and radiated emissions; 

3) SAR measurements indicate radiated emissions which would apply to LED 
systems (including their SMPS) which are worn on or close to the human body in 
their application. 



Perhaps someone else on this thread has more definite insight into the 
application and the need for these requirements; it would be good to hear from 
them. 




:>) br, Pete 



Peter E Perkins, PE 

Principal Product Safety & Regulatory Affairs Consultant 

PO Box 23427 

Tigard, ORe 97281-3427 



503/452-1201 



IEEE Life Fellow 

p.perk...@ieee.org 





From: McCallum, Andy  
Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 7:52 AM 
To: Pete Perkins  
Subject: RE: [PSES] BS EN 62493:2015 Assessment of lighting equipment related 
to human exposure to electromagnetic fields 




Pete 



Thanks yes it is LED so not an issue. Out of interest what type of lighting 
does it cover? The exemption list is quite comprehensive. 



Andy 




From: Pete Perkins [ mailto:peperkin...@cs.com ] 
Sent: 29 March 2018 19:11 
To: McCallum, Andy < andy.mccal...@mottmac.com >; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG 
Subject: RE: [PSES] BS EN 62493:2015 Assessment of lighting equipment related 
to human exposure to electromagnetic fields 




Andy, 



Just to clarify: 



Abstract; IEC 62493:2015 applies to the assessment of lighting equipment 
related to human exposure to electromagnetic fields. The assessment consists of 
the induced internal electric field for frequencies from 20 kHz to 10 MHz and 
the specific absorption rate (SAR) for frequencies from 100 kHz to 300 MHz 
around lighting equipment. This second edition cancels and replaces the first 
edition published in 2009. This edition constitutes a technical revision. This 
edition includes the following significant technical changes with respect to 
the previous edition: 
a) identification of lighting product types deemed to comply with the standard 
without the need for test; 
b) deletion of the need for CISPR-15-compliance as a prerequisite for IEC 62493 
compliance; 
c) inclusion of the consequences of the ICNIPR 2010 guidelines for (up to 100 
kHz); 
d) adding some guidance to the Van der Hoofden test head method to improve 
reproducibility of results; 
e) inclusion of compliance demonstration method for products having intentional 
radiators. 



Does your lighting product fall under the exemption? 




:>) br, Pete 



Peter E Perkins, PE 

Principal Product Safety & Regulatory Affairs Consultant 

PO Box 23427 

Tigard, ORe 97281-3427 



503/452-1201 



IEEE Life Fellow 

p.perk...@ieee.org 





From: McCallum, Andy < andy.mccal...@mottmac.com > 
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 7:28 AM 
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG 
Subject: [PSES] BS EN 62493:2015 Assessment of lighting equipment related to 
human exposure to electromagnetic fields 




Anyone have any experience of this standard? Do any lighting systems get close 
to the ICNIRP limits? 



Any thoughts welcome 



Andy 

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Re: [PSES] BS EN 62493:2015 Assessment of lighting equipment related to human exposure to electromagnetic fields

2018-04-09 Thread Pete Perkins
Andy,

 

   I have not used 62493 so I'm not familiar with the details; I
looked it up on the IEC website to get an idea as to what it covered and
reported their summary.  

 

   In reading thru this I see several points here. 

1) The broad band radiation up to 300MHz must be for radiated emissions;  

2) light itself is very limited in frequency and bandwidth so this must
apply to the SMPS which are driving the lamps.  Interestingly enough I have
seen quite robust Touch Current measurements from LED lighting SMPS; which
will eventually be tamed by proper Touch Current measurements which include
the up to 1Mhz HF portion allowed by the human body response to HF current.
But note that these HF components exist and can give rise to both conducted
and radiated emissions;   

3) SAR measurements indicate radiated emissions which would apply to LED
systems (including their SMPS) which are worn on or close to the human body
in their application.  

 

   Perhaps someone else on this thread has more definite insight
into the application and the need for these requirements; it would be good
to hear from them.  

 

:>) br,  Pete

 

Peter E Perkins, PE

Principal Product Safety & Regulatory Affairs Consultant

PO Box 23427

Tigard, ORe  97281-3427

 

503/452-1201

 

IEEE Life Fellow

 <mailto:p.perk...@ieee.org> p.perk...@ieee.org

 

From: McCallum, Andy  
Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 7:52 AM
To: Pete Perkins 
Subject: RE: [PSES] BS EN 62493:2015 Assessment of lighting equipment
related to human exposure to electromagnetic fields

 

Pete

 

Thanks yes it is LED so not an issue. Out of interest what type of lighting
does it cover? The exemption list is quite comprehensive. 

 

Andy

 

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Sent: 29 March 2018 19:11
To: McCallum, Andy mailto:andy.mccal...@mottmac.com> >; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
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Subject: RE: [PSES] BS EN 62493:2015 Assessment of lighting equipment
related to human exposure to electromagnetic fields

 

Andy,

 

   Just to clarify:  

 

Abstract; IEC 62493:2015 applies to the assessment of lighting equipment
related to human exposure to electromagnetic fields. The assessment consists
of the induced internal electric field for frequencies from 20 kHz to 10 MHz
and the specific absorption rate (SAR) for frequencies from 100 kHz to 300
MHz around lighting equipment. This second edition cancels and replaces the
first edition published in 2009. This edition constitutes a technical
revision. This edition includes the following significant technical changes
with respect to the previous edition:
a) identification of lighting product types deemed to comply with the
standard without the need for test;
b) deletion of the need for CISPR-15-compliance as a prerequisite for IEC
62493 compliance;
c) inclusion of the consequences of the ICNIPR 2010 guidelines for (up to
100 kHz);
d) adding some guidance to the Van der Hoofden test head method to improve
reproducibility of results;
e) inclusion of compliance demonstration method for products having
intentional radiators.  

 

   Does your lighting product fall under the exemption?  

 

:>) br,  Pete

 

Peter E Perkins, PE

Principal Product Safety & Regulatory Affairs Consultant

PO Box 23427

Tigard, ORe  97281-3427

 

503/452-1201

 

IEEE Life Fellow

 <mailto:p.perk...@ieee.org> p.perk...@ieee.org

 

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human exposure to electromagnetic fields

 

Anyone have any experience of this standard?  Do any lighting systems get
close to the ICNIRP limits?

 

Any thoughts welcome

 

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Re: [PSES] BS EN 62493:2015 Assessment of lighting equipment related to human exposure to electromagnetic fields

2018-03-29 Thread Pete Perkins
Andy,

 

   Just to clarify:  

 

Abstract; IEC 62493:2015 applies to the assessment of lighting equipment
related to human exposure to electromagnetic fields. The assessment consists
of the induced internal electric field for frequencies from 20 kHz to 10 MHz
and the specific absorption rate (SAR) for frequencies from 100 kHz to 300
MHz around lighting equipment. This second edition cancels and replaces the
first edition published in 2009. This edition constitutes a technical
revision. This edition includes the following significant technical changes
with respect to the previous edition:
a) identification of lighting product types deemed to comply with the
standard without the need for test;
b) deletion of the need for CISPR-15-compliance as a prerequisite for IEC
62493 compliance;
c) inclusion of the consequences of the ICNIPR 2010 guidelines for (up to
100 kHz);
d) adding some guidance to the Van der Hoofden test head method to improve
reproducibility of results;
e) inclusion of compliance demonstration method for products having
intentional radiators.  

 

   Does your lighting product fall under the exemption?  

 

:>) br,  Pete

 

Peter E Perkins, PE

Principal Product Safety & Regulatory Affairs Consultant

PO Box 23427

Tigard, ORe  97281-3427

 

503/452-1201

 

IEEE Life Fellow

  p.perk...@ieee.org

 

From: McCallum, Andy  
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 7:28 AM
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Subject: [PSES] BS EN 62493:2015 Assessment of lighting equipment related to
human exposure to electromagnetic fields

 

Anyone have any experience of this standard?  Do any lighting systems get
close to the ICNIRP limits?

 

Any thoughts welcome

 

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Re: [PSES] BS EN 62493:2015 Assessment of lighting equipment related to human exposure to electromagnetic fields

2018-03-29 Thread John Woodgate
You are likely to find the IEC Technical Report TR 62493-1 helpful.  Do 
you know how to use the IEC Webstore to find out about IEC publications?


John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK

On 2018-03-29 15:27, McCallum, Andy wrote:


Anyone have any experience of this standard?  Do any lighting systems 
get close to the ICNIRP limits?


Any thoughts welcome

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