Re: [PSES] What EU directive covers wireline phones after withdrawal of the RTTE Directive?

[Dan Roman]

Don't forget RoHS!


--Dan RomanIEEE Senior MemberPSES/EMCS/cesdan.ro...@ieee.org



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From: Joe Randolph <j...@randolph-telecom.com> 
Date: 2/9/18  1:01 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG 
Subject: Re: [PSES] What EU directive covers wireline phones after withdrawal 
of the RTTE Directive? 

Thanks Charlie.   It looks like the scope language for the new LVD/EMCD is 
sufficient to pick up wireline telephones without needing the previously 
explicit references in the 

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Re: [PSES] What EU directive covers wireline phones after withdrawal of the RTTE Directive?

[Pete Perkins]

Joe,

 

Altho no one else commented on the safety aspects, ITEq
comes under 60950, being replaced by 62368.  Maybe that's obvious to
everyone.   

 

:>) br,  Pete

 

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PO Box 23427

Tigard, ORe  97281-3427

 

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From: Joe Randolph [mailto:j...@randolph-telecom.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 10:02 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] What EU directive covers wireline phones after
withdrawal of the RTTE Directive?

 

Thanks Charlie.  

 

It looks like the scope language for the new LVD/EMCD is sufficient to pick
up wireline telephones without needing the previously explicit references in
the RTTE.

 

 

Thanks,

 

Joe Randolph

Telecom Design Consultant

Randolph Telecom, Inc.

781-721-2848 (USA)

j...@randolph-telecom.com <mailto:j...@randolph-telecom.com> 

http://www.randolph-telecom.com

 

From: Charlie Blackham [mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 12:38 PM
To: Joe Randolph <j...@randolph-telecom.com <mailto:j...@randolph-telecom.com>
>; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> 
Subject: RE: [PSES] What EU directive covers wireline phones after
withdrawal of the RTTE Directive?

 

Joe

 

TTE falls under the EMC Directive and the LVD Directive if within scope

 

More information in the European Commission "Application of Directives
2014/53/EU, 2014/35/EU and 2014/30/EU", 

ec.europa.eu/DocsRoom/documents/11983/attachments/1/translations/en/renditio
ns/pdf

 

regards

Charlie

 

 

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From: Joe Randolph [mailto:j...@randolph-telecom.com] 
Sent: 09 February 2018 17:24
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> 
Subject: [PSES] What EU directive covers wireline phones after withdrawal of
the RTTE Directive?

 

Hello All:

 

Sorry to be asking such a basic question, but what is the regulatory
framework for wireline phones now that the RTTE directive has been
withdrawn?

 

I presume that the previously applicable requirements for safety and EMC
still apply.  As I recall, these were explicitly called out in the RTTE
directive.  

 

I'm just looking for the specific regulatory framework that now applies to
wireline phones.

 

 

Thanks,

 

Joe Randolph

Telecom Design Consultant

Randolph Telecom, Inc.

781-721-2848 (USA)

j...@randolph-telecom.com <mailto:j...@randolph-telecom.com> 

http://www.randolph-telecom.com

 

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Re: [PSES] What EU directive covers wireline phones after withdrawal of the RTTE Directive?

[Charlie Blackham]

Joe

TTE falls under the EMC Directive and the LVD Directive if within scope

More information in the European Commission "Application of Directives 
2014/53/EU, 2014/35/EU and 2014/30/EU",
ec.europa.eu/DocsRoom/documents/11983/attachments/1/translations/en/renditions/pdf

regards
Charlie


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www.sulisconsultants.com
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From: Joe Randolph [mailto:j...@randolph-telecom.com]
Sent: 09 February 2018 17:24
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] What EU directive covers wireline phones after withdrawal of 
the RTTE Directive?

Hello All:

Sorry to be asking such a basic question, but what is the regulatory framework 
for wireline phones now that the RTTE directive has been withdrawn?

I presume that the previously applicable requirements for safety and EMC still 
apply.  As I recall, these were explicitly called out in the RTTE directive.

I'm just looking for the specific regulatory framework that now applies to 
wireline phones.


Thanks,

Joe Randolph
Telecom Design Consultant
Randolph Telecom, Inc.
781-721-2848 (USA)
j...@randolph-telecom.com
http://www.randolph-telecom.com

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Re: [PSES] What EU directive covers wireline phones after withdrawal of the RTTE Directive?

[Jim Hulbert]

That's correct.  "Wireline" phones are specifically NOT within scope of the new 
Radio Equipment Directive 2014/53/EU (which has replaced R Directive 
1999/5/EC).  Therefore the LVD and EMCD are the applicable standards, and the 
ITE immunity standards under the EMCD, for example, address immunity of 
telecommunications devices.Of course RoHS and WEEE also apply.

Jim Hulbert

From: Joe Randolph [mailto:j...@randolph-telecom.com]
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 1:02 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] What EU directive covers wireline phones after withdrawal 
of the RTTE Directive?

Thanks Charlie.

It looks like the scope language for the new LVD/EMCD is sufficient to pick up 
wireline telephones without needing the previously explicit references in the 
RTTE.


Thanks,

Joe Randolph
Telecom Design Consultant
Randolph Telecom, Inc.
781-721-2848 (USA)
j...@randolph-telecom.com<mailto:j...@randolph-telecom.com>
http://www.randolph-telecom.com

From: Charlie Blackham [mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com]
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 12:38 PM
To: Joe Randolph <j...@randolph-telecom.com<mailto:j...@randolph-telecom.com>>; 
EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
Subject: RE: [PSES] What EU directive covers wireline phones after withdrawal 
of the RTTE Directive?

Joe

TTE falls under the EMC Directive and the LVD Directive if within scope

More information in the European Commission "Application of Directives 
2014/53/EU, 2014/35/EU and 2014/30/EU",
ec.europa.eu/DocsRoom/documents/11983/attachments/1/translations/en/renditions/pdf

regards
Charlie


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From: Joe Randolph [mailto:j...@randolph-telecom.com]
Sent: 09 February 2018 17:24
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
Subject: [PSES] What EU directive covers wireline phones after withdrawal of 
the RTTE Directive?

Hello All:

Sorry to be asking such a basic question, but what is the regulatory framework 
for wireline phones now that the RTTE directive has been withdrawn?

I presume that the previously applicable requirements for safety and EMC still 
apply.  As I recall, these were explicitly called out in the RTTE directive.

I'm just looking for the specific regulatory framework that now applies to 
wireline phones.


Thanks,

Joe Randolph
Telecom Design Consultant
Randolph Telecom, Inc.
781-721-2848 (USA)
j...@randolph-telecom.com<mailto:j...@randolph-telecom.com>
http://www.randolph-telecom.com

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Re: [PSES] What EU directive covers wireline phones after withdrawal of the RTTE Directive?

[Joe Randolph]

Thanks Charlie.  

 

It looks like the scope language for the new LVD/EMCD is sufficient to pick
up wireline telephones without needing the previously explicit references in
the RTTE.

 

Thanks,

 

Joe Randolph

Telecom Design Consultant

Randolph Telecom, Inc.

781-721-2848 (USA)

 <mailto:j...@randolph-telecom.com> j...@randolph-telecom.com

 <http://www.randolph-telecom.com> http://www.randolph-telecom.com

 

From: Charlie Blackham [mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 12:38 PM
To: Joe Randolph <j...@randolph-telecom.com>; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: [PSES] What EU directive covers wireline phones after
withdrawal of the RTTE Directive?

 

Joe

 

TTE falls under the EMC Directive and the LVD Directive if within scope

 

More information in the European Commission "Application of Directives
2014/53/EU, 2014/35/EU and 2014/30/EU", 

ec.europa.eu/DocsRoom/documents/11983/attachments/1/translations/en/renditio
ns/pdf

 

regards

Charlie

 

 

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From: Joe Randolph [mailto:j...@randolph-telecom.com] 
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To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> 
Subject: [PSES] What EU directive covers wireline phones after withdrawal of
the RTTE Directive?

 

Hello All:

 

Sorry to be asking such a basic question, but what is the regulatory
framework for wireline phones now that the RTTE directive has been
withdrawn?

 

I presume that the previously applicable requirements for safety and EMC
still apply.  As I recall, these were explicitly called out in the RTTE
directive.  

 

I'm just looking for the specific regulatory framework that now applies to
wireline phones.

 

 

Thanks,

 

Joe Randolph

Telecom Design Consultant

Randolph Telecom, Inc.

781-721-2848 (USA)

j...@randolph-telecom.com <mailto:j...@randolph-telecom.com> 

http://www.randolph-telecom.com

 

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