Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 Lathe - single point threading trapezoidal threadform

2010-08-18 Thread Andy Pugh
On 18 August 2010 00:30, Tom Smith tomsmith...@hotmail.com wrote: Is there any way to true single-point thread trap threadforms? I would expect so. I have cut coarse (4mm pitch) threads using a broadly similar approach and G76. The threading cycle starts from the initial position, so you can

Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 v2.4.3 G76 change?

2010-08-18 Thread Andy Pugh
On 17 August 2010 23:36, Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net wrote: Returning the tool along a line that skims the thread peaks does not seem that valid to me. Skimming the top at 0 removes flash edges, a common technique. Unless the rapid return is a lot slower than the threading pass (which

[Emc-users] OT:Gene

2010-08-18 Thread Mark Wendt
Anybody heard from Gene H. lately? He usually posts every day, and I haven't seen one of his posts in a while. Pinging Gene - if'n yer out there, pipe up... Mark -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Make an app

Re: [Emc-users] OT:Gene

2010-08-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday, August 18, 2010 09:31:00 am Mark Wendt did opine: Anybody heard from Gene H. lately? He usually posts every day, and I haven't seen one of his posts in a while. Pinging Gene - if'n yer out there, pipe up... Mark You rang? I have been busier than that famous one legged

Re: [Emc-users] OT:Gene

2010-08-18 Thread Mark Wendt
Anybody heard from Gene H. lately? He usually posts every day, and I haven't seen one of his posts in a while. Pinging Gene - if'n yer out there, pipe up... Mark You rang? I have been busier than that famous one legged man in an ass kicking contest, trying to fix all the damages

Re: [Emc-users] How does EMC Control 3 Axis Mills with Stepper Motors and Linear Encoders?

2010-08-18 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 18:11 -0400, Don Stanley wrote: ... snip Did you recognise it is a CNC converted mill that I wanted to move to EMC2? Thanks again Don I still contend that encoder feedback on a stepper system has no proven advantage, unless you have a very special stepper

Re: [Emc-users] How does EMC Control 3 Axis Mills with Stepper Motors and Linear Encoders?

2010-08-18 Thread Chris Radek
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 08:38:40AM -0700, Kirk Wallace wrote: I still contend that encoder feedback on a stepper system has no proven advantage I saw a machine at CNC Workshop that was set up with encoders and steppers. It still did step generation in position mode, exactly as it would

Re: [Emc-users] How does EMC Control 3 Axis Mills with Stepper Motors and Linear Encoders?

2010-08-18 Thread Dave
I disagree... If I had high res scales available that could keep up with the slew rates of the axes, I would try to incorporate them into the system. They could compensate for pitch errors in the screws or worn screws. I still think that any backlash may still cause big problems, but you can

[Emc-users] [OT] Four Speed Motor

2010-08-18 Thread Kirk Wallace
I have been working on a furnace fan with a four speed AC induction motor. It came to mind that a four speed motor might be handy as a spindle motor, but when I powered the motor up on the bench, with no load, the four speeds seemed to be the same. My guess is that the different speeds are

Re: [Emc-users] How does EMC Control 3 Axis Mills with Stepper Motors and Linear Encoders?

2010-08-18 Thread sam sokolik
The one big advantage is stall recovery. You can just turn the machine back on after the crash and emc still knows where you are. (no re-homing needed). sam On 8/18/2010 10:38 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 18:11 -0400, Don Stanley wrote: ... snip Did you recognise it is

Re: [Emc-users] OT:Gene

2010-08-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday, August 18, 2010 12:16:57 pm Mark Wendt did opine: Anybody heard from Gene H. lately? He usually posts every day, and I haven't seen one of his posts in a while. Pinging Gene - if'n yer out there, pipe up... Mark You rang? I have been busier than that famous

Re: [Emc-users] [OT] Four Speed Motor

2010-08-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday, August 18, 2010 01:05:31 pm Kirk Wallace did opine: I have been working on a furnace fan with a four speed AC induction motor. It came to mind that a four speed motor might be handy as a spindle motor, but when I powered the motor up on the bench, with no load, the four speeds

Re: [Emc-users] [OT] Four Speed Motor

2010-08-18 Thread Cal Grandy
The motor/drivers from a modern front load clothes washer is a very versatile piece. just saying. Cal -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Make an app they can't live without Enter the BlackBerry Developer

Re: [Emc-users] How does EMC Control 3 Axis Mills with Stepper Motors and Linear Encoders?

2010-08-18 Thread Don Stanley
Hi Dave, Kirk, Chris, Sam A serious thanks for your input. I'm going to outline my thinking below and would be grateful for your feedback, pro or con. Years ago I converted a new JET Mill (Bridgeport knee knock off) to CNC. The Ball Screw I used (Rockford) was not the stiffest thing on the

Re: [Emc-users] How does EMC Control 3 Axis Mills with Stepper Motors and Linear Encoders?

2010-08-18 Thread sam sokolik
Hmmm - backlash isn't going to get any better using scales - and the machine setup is impossible at best.. backlash is bad bad bad.. as far as your stepper .2 and .1? Direct coupled?That must be taking into account the micro stepping? You cannot depend on micro stepping

[Emc-users] Wichita fest

2010-08-18 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, I have not heard much about an EMC Fest other than the CNC Workshop. I am willing to host a meeting here again this year. I just need a week or two notice. I have some projects to be worked on. If someone has a project they need some machining done on we have machines to use here.

Re: [Emc-users] How does EMC Control 3 Axis Mills with Stepper Motors and Linear Encoders?

2010-08-18 Thread Andy Pugh
On 18 August 2010 20:15, Don Stanley dstanley1...@gmail.com wrote: I am getting a lot of backlash (apparently flexing the Y arm) during static moves and who knows under load. I am not sure that is classical backlash, and might not be as difficult to deal with. It really seems to me that using

Re: [Emc-users] Use of Chris's truetype-tracer from G code?

2010-08-18 Thread Kenneth Lerman
One significant part of this that is a real pain is that the parser converts all text to upper case early in the process. Ken On 08/17/2010 02:55 PM, Igor Chudov wrote: I am totally in love with truetype-tracer and already engraved a bunch of stuff. I wish I had a faster spindle, but I

Re: [Emc-users] Use of Chris's truetype-tracer from G code?

2010-08-18 Thread Chris Radek
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 06:42:23PM -0400, Kenneth Lerman wrote: One significant part of this that is a real pain is that the parser converts all text to upper case early in the process. Happily, it doesn't convert comments! % cat f.ngc (SYSTEM,echo Hello world!) m2 % rs274 -g f.ngc [...]

Re: [Emc-users] Wichita fest

2010-08-18 Thread Chris Radek
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 04:54:53PM -0500, Stuart Stevenson wrote: Gentlemen, I have not heard much about an EMC Fest other than the CNC Workshop. I am willing to host a meeting here again this year. I just need a week or two notice. Sounds really fun - lots of interesting projects - count

Re: [Emc-users] How does EMC Control 3 Axis Mills with Stepper Motors and Linear Encoders?

2010-08-18 Thread Jon Elson
Don Stanley wrote: - Stepper Motors are 4000 inch pound torque direct coupled to the ball screws and knee lift shaft. Are you sure of this number? That's 333 Foot-Pounds of torque, not bad for a V8 car engine. Assuming a 5 TPI ballscrew, you'd get 126000 pounds of linear force on