Re: [Emc-users] reading the tool table

2010-11-24 Thread William Baden
Sorry I do not know much about the guts of the program. Thanks for the insight. Will Baden > Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 01:11:32 + > From: a...@andypugh.fsnet.co.uk > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] reading the tool table > > On 25 November 2010 00:52, William

Re: [Emc-users] Any advantage to using a lightweight window manager?

2010-11-24 Thread Mark Thomas
The BDI's are fairly light as they are, the only reason to look elsewhere would be on a low memory machine. That said, the rtai kernel is included with most distros, and EMC2 is not that difficult to install separately, so outside of the convenience of the BDI most distros will work. Xubuntu is

Re: [Emc-users] reading the tool table

2010-11-24 Thread Andy Pugh
On 25 November 2010 00:52, William Baden wrote: > I agree with having the tool table being read during the program.  I see it > would be nice whenever Tool comp was called it would refer to the tool table > at that time. I would speculate that doing it at tool-change or cycle-start is easy. Do

Re: [Emc-users] reading the tool table

2010-11-24 Thread William Baden
I agree with having the tool table being read during the program. I see it would be nice whenever Tool comp was called it would refer to the tool table at that time. Will Baden > Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 13:15:47 -0600 > From: stus...@gmail.com > To: Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: [

Re: [Emc-users] reading the tool table

2010-11-24 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 13:15:47 -0600, you wrote: > What would be the difficulty level and/or objections to reading the tool >table on 'CYCLE START' rather than a separate 'reload tool table' operation? Good idea. > My ultimate preference would have the tool table read continuously so >changes w

[Emc-users] Any advantage to using a lightweight window manager?

2010-11-24 Thread Neil Baylis
I'm about to install EMC on another machine (Dell Optiplex) and was wondering if anyone has found benefits from installing a lightweight window manager (e.g. xfce, lxde, or even twm) instead of Gnome? I've used this machine successfully for EMC before, so I know it works. Also, is there any benefi

Re: [Emc-users] Index Basics, OT: leaving stepppers

2010-11-24 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 12:41 -0800, Edward Bernard wrote: > So the flag could be a something like a single hall sensor and magnet as > opposed > to a quadrature encoder? Yes, but I don't know how repeatable a Hall sensor is. My lathe uses a Hall sensor for the home switches, but it only needs to

Re: [Emc-users] Index Basics, OT: leaving stepppers

2010-11-24 Thread sam sokolik
we have a gantry machine that we setup with 2 switches hooked in series for each axis. One is on the linear slide - one runs off the timing pully. When we home - the machine runs until it closes the switch on the linear slide - then because the switch are hooked in series - the switch that i

Re: [Emc-users] Index Basics, OT: leaving stepppers

2010-11-24 Thread Edward Bernard
So the flag could be a something like a single hall sensor and magnet as opposed to a quadrature encoder? - Original Message From: Kirk Wallace To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Sent: Wed, November 24, 2010 1:43:23 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Index Basics, OT: leaving stepppers

Re: [Emc-users] Going Off Grid, Seeking ideas ...

2010-11-24 Thread Roland Jollivet
This is an endless topic. Here's a nice mechanism. Very suitable for the telemetry/automation orientated. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2084492353533644927# Regards Roland On 24 November 2010 20:20, Kirk Wallace wrote: > On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 11:29 -0600, Jon Elson wrote: > > dave

Re: [Emc-users] Seeking ideas how to sync an AC generator to 60 HZ average.

2010-11-24 Thread k...@gmail.com
I have researched this subject over the last 10+ years. And I know a couple people that have tried limited phases of this experiment as well. My conclusion is, if do not have enough hobbies and too much free time, adding 'home shop power station' to the list might be fun. But there is no savings to

Re: [Emc-users] Index Basics, OT: leaving stepppers

2010-11-24 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 10:46 -0800, Edward Bernard wrote: > What is a "screw flag". An encoder? An encoder index or a flag that allows one to reproduce the same position within .0005", or whatever the application calls for. I would not trust most home switch configurations by themselves. They shoul

Re: [Emc-users] reading the tool table

2010-11-24 Thread Jim Fleig
Sorry to hear about your part Stuart. I was listening at the the Wichita EMC2 fest. The following comments will illustrate whether or not I understood (in a general sense) a programming conversation about M codes. Wouldn't it be possible to assign an M code to perform the reload tool table

Re: [Emc-users] Seeking ideas how to sync an AC generator to 60 HZ average.

2010-11-24 Thread Peter Blodow
Hello gentlemen, I have another solution for the power supply problem: move to Europe! In our village (270 some people) we have two transformer stations on a grid-connected 20 kV three-phase line. The power lines go to (or come from) three neighboring villages and eventually end up at the region

[Emc-users] reading the tool table

2010-11-24 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, What would be the difficulty level and/or objections to reading the tool table on 'CYCLE START' rather than a separate 'reload tool table' operation? My ultimate preference would have the tool table read continuously so changes would be available on the next line read from the progra

Re: [Emc-users] Seeking ideas how to sync an AC generator to 60 HZ average.

2010-11-24 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Jim Fleig wrote: > Hello All, > > Happy Thanksgiving one day early! > > To protect sensitive electronics in machine tool controls (and many > other places) put an UPS (Uninterruptible Power Supply) between the > power source and the sensitive electronics.  Most DC

Re: [Emc-users] OT: leaving stepppers energized but not moving

2010-11-24 Thread Edward Bernard
What is a "screw flag". An encoder? - Original Message From: Kirk Wallace To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Sent: Wed, November 24, 2010 12:33:26 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] OT: leaving stepppers energized but not moving On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 18:21 +0100, Lars Andersson wrote: >

Re: [Emc-users] OT: leaving stepppers energized but not moving

2010-11-24 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 18:21 +0100, Lars Andersson wrote: > If the temperature of the motors is acceptable there is nothing else to > worry about when leaving them on for a long time. > It is kind of a waste of energy. There are other, albeit unlikely, hazards of leaving a CNC machine energized an

Re: [Emc-users] Going Off Grid, Seeking ideas ...

2010-11-24 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 11:29 -0600, Jon Elson wrote: > dave wrote: > > Hi Jack, > > > > Have you computed the real costs of running a diesel powered genset > for > local power. It comes out to be not very attractive. > > Just the cost of the fuel alone is more per KWH than the grid. > > > Yes,

Re: [Emc-users] Seeking ideas how to sync an AC generator to 60 HZ average.

2010-11-24 Thread Jim Fleig
Hello All, Happy Thanksgiving one day early! To protect sensitive electronics in machine tool controls (and many other places) put an UPS (Uninterruptible Power Supply) between the power source and the sensitive electronics. Most DC power supplies are converting 110 VAC to whatever DC volt

Re: [Emc-users] Seeking ideas how to sync an AC generator to 60 HZ average.

2010-11-24 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, Having researched the subject of isolating from the grid to try to convert my shop I will interject a comment or two. The KWH cost of utility power is amazingly cheap compared to generating it locally. The KWH cost is not the only cost. At least once a year we experience a power gl

Re: [Emc-users] Seeking ideas how to sync an AC generator to 60 HZ average.

2010-11-24 Thread Jon Elson
dave wrote: > Hi Jack, > > Have you computed the real costs of running a diesel powered genset for > local power. It comes out to be not very attractive. > Just the cost of the fuel alone is more per KWH than the grid. > Yes, but if you are 20 miles from the grid, and the only person out the

Re: [Emc-users] OT: leaving stepppers energized but not moving

2010-11-24 Thread Lars Andersson
If the temperature of the motors is acceptable there is nothing else to worry about when leaving them on for a long time. > -Original Message- > From: Andy Pugh [mailto:a...@andypugh.fsnet.co.uk] > Sent: den 24 november 2010 00:07 > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc

Re: [Emc-users] Migrating from Heron to Lucid

2010-11-24 Thread Lars Andersson
Having satisfied my curiosity now I think I will stay with Heron for a while, (9k on the same HW) until maybe some other user finds a fix. I use Lucid now on other (non realtime) machines, the difference is not important. > -Original Message- > From: Andy Pugh [mailto:a...@andypugh.fsnet.

Re: [Emc-users] Seeking ideas how to sync an AC generator to 60 HZ average.

2010-11-24 Thread dave
Hi Jack, Have you computed the real costs of running a diesel powered genset for local power. It comes out to be not very attractive. Just the cost of the fuel alone is more per KWH than the grid. Just my tuppence. Dave On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 12:37 -0600, Jack Coats wrote: > Keeping exactly

Re: [Emc-users] Seeking ideas how to sync an AC generator to 60 HZ average.

2010-11-24 Thread dave
Typical losses in high voltage transmission lines are on the order of 6 to 7% distributed between corona and IR losses depending on the voltage. D On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 18:10 +, Andy Pugh wrote: > On 23 November 2010 16:52, Dave wrote: > > > Apparently there is a large DC inverter station

Re: [Emc-users] Seeking ideas how to sync an AC generator to 60 HZ average.

2010-11-24 Thread dave
Google "HVDC in the pacific northwest" will get you a couple of links. There are two links (npi) from near The Dalles dam on the Columbia to S CA. Also there is a site that lays out DC interties as firewalls between major grids therefore minimizing intergrid interferences leading to instability.

Re: [Emc-users] Seeking ideas how to sync an AC generator to 60 HZ average.

2010-11-24 Thread Ian W. Wright
I think the satellites have caesium clocks now but that is only from memory. The reason they need to be adjusted fairly frequently is due to the satellites propensity to fall back to earth - i.e. their orbits decay over time making the satellites closer to earth and hence the signal travel time