Re: [Emc-users] My electronic fuse, using the comp(are) module

2012-12-08 Thread dave
On Sat, 2012-12-08 at 23:56 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 08 December 2012 23:49:28 Jon Elson did opine: > > > Gene, > > > > You can get aircraft breakers, designed for 32 V DC, and some are > > quite small. They have push/pull kinds that pop out when tripped, > > and bat handle types

Re: [Emc-users] My electronic fuse, using the comp(are) module

2012-12-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 08 December 2012 23:49:28 Jon Elson did opine: > Gene, > > You can get aircraft breakers, designed for 32 V DC, and some are > quite small. They have push/pull kinds that pop out when tripped, > and bat handle types used as on/off switches, too. New can be > expensive, but they may

Re: [Emc-users] My electronic fuse, using the comp(are) module

2012-12-08 Thread Jon Elson
Gene, You can get aircraft breakers, designed for 32 V DC, and some are quite small. They have push/pull kinds that pop out when tripped, and bat handle types used as on/off switches, too. New can be expensive, but they may be available on the surplus market. I have a few. Jon

Re: [Emc-users] My electronic fuse, using the comp(are) module

2012-12-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 08 December 2012 20:25:47 andy pugh did opine: > On 9 December 2012 01:12, andy pugh wrote: > > An MCB ought to be able to do the job, even if you dismantle it to > > make the useful parts fit (though they normally include things like a > > chimney and an arc-extinguisher) > > http:/

Re: [Emc-users] My electronic fuse, using the comp(are) module

2012-12-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 08 December 2012 20:19:14 andy pugh did opine: > On 9 December 2012 01:06, Gene Heskett wrote: > > push button reset thermal gizmo's with a tolerance and repeatability > > that are horrifyingly sloppy. > > Thermal or thermal/magnetic? > My guess is pure thermal, heavily overloaded r

Re: [Emc-users] My electronic fuse, using the comp(are) module

2012-12-08 Thread andy pugh
On 9 December 2012 01:12, andy pugh wrote: > An MCB ought to be able to do the job, even if you dismantle it to > make the useful parts fit (though they normally include things like a > chimney and an arc-extinguisher) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Circuitbreaker.jpg Seems to have both a lo

Re: [Emc-users] My electronic fuse, using the comp(are) module

2012-12-08 Thread andy pugh
On 9 December 2012 01:06, Gene Heskett wrote: > push button reset thermal gizmo's with a tolerance and repeatability that > are horrifyingly sloppy. Thermal or thermal/magnetic? An MCB ought to be able to do the job, even if you dismantle it to make the useful parts fit (though they normally in

Re: [Emc-users] My electronic fuse, using the comp(are) module

2012-12-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 08 December 2012 20:04:55 andy pugh did opine: > On 9 December 2012 00:26, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> Ordinary domestic MCBs work down to 12V. > >> http://www.global-download.schneider-electric.com/852575770039EC5E/al > >> l/3 > >> C7884C29910B3CC852575B7006577BC/$File/multi_9_mcb_appli

Re: [Emc-users] My electronic fuse, using the comp(are) module

2012-12-08 Thread andy pugh
On 9 December 2012 00:26, Gene Heskett wrote: >> Ordinary domestic MCBs work down to 12V. >> http://www.global-download.schneider-electric.com/852575770039EC5E/all/3 >> C7884C29910B3CC852575B7006577BC/$File/multi_9_mcb_application_guide.pdf >> page 5. > > Physically too big for the box. Darn it.

Re: [Emc-users] My electronic fuse, using the comp(are) module

2012-12-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 08 December 2012 19:19:02 andy pugh did opine: > On 8 December 2012 23:33, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I could work on this a bit more intelligently if I > > > > drilled out a 5x20 fuse and the holder cap > > http://uk.rs-online.com/web/c/fuses-sockets-circuit-breakers/fuses-pcb/r > es

Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal

2012-12-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 08 December 2012 18:47:46 andy pugh did opine: > On 8 December 2012 21:25, Gene Heskett wrote: > > What we need is a short man page that describes the syntax of the > > various "first word" of a line settings, loadrt, addf, setp, net, > > etc. > > man halcmd. > > OK, so you actually

Re: [Emc-users] My electronic fuse, using the comp(are) module

2012-12-08 Thread andy pugh
On 8 December 2012 23:33, Gene Heskett wrote: > I could work on this a bit more intelligently if I > drilled out a 5x20 fuse and the holder cap http://uk.rs-online.com/web/c/fuses-sockets-circuit-breakers/fuses-pcb/resettable-wire-ended-fuses/ Ordinary domestic MCBs work down to 12V. http://ww

Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal

2012-12-08 Thread andy pugh
On 8 December 2012 21:25, Gene Heskett wrote: > What we need is a short man page that describes the syntax of the various > "first word" of a line settings, loadrt, addf, setp, net, etc. man halcmd. OK, so you actually have to be psychic to guess that. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't ow

Re: [Emc-users] My electronic fuse, using the comp(are) module

2012-12-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 08 December 2012 18:16:35 andy pugh did opine: > On 8 December 2012 18:06, Gene Heskett wrote: > > One of the problems I've seen occasionally with the previous setup I > > ran most of last summer, was that the trip was bidirectional, and if > > the spindle was turning at a good rate w

Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal

2012-12-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 08 December 2012 18:04:26 Sebastian Kuzminsky did opine: > On 12/08/2012 02:25 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > What we need is a short man page that describes the syntax of the > > various "first word" of a line settings, loadrt, addf, setp, net, > > etc. > > This may not be intuitive or

Re: [Emc-users] My electronic fuse, using the comp(are) module

2012-12-08 Thread andy pugh
On 8 December 2012 18:06, Gene Heskett wrote: > One of the problems I've seen occasionally with the previous setup I ran > most of last summer, was that the trip was bidirectional, and if the > spindle was turning at a good rate when the stop button was hit, the error > developed because of the p

Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal

2012-12-08 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 12/08/2012 02:25 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > What we need is a short man page that describes the syntax of the various > "first word" of a line settings, loadrt, addf, setp, net, etc. This may not be intuitive or obvious, but loadrt, net, and friends are all handled by a command called "halcmd",

Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal

2012-12-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 08 December 2012 17:00:37 Kent A. Reed did opine: > On 12/8/2012 4:25 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 08 December 2012 16:11:14 Anders Wallin did opine: > >>> Is this an oversight, or just considered as too big for a man page? > >> > >> "hal" by itself is not a command you wou

Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal

2012-12-08 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 12/8/2012 4:25 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 08 December 2012 16:11:14 Anders Wallin did opine: > >>> Is this an oversight, or just considered as too big for a man page? >> "hal" by itself is not a command you would execute from the terminal. >> "man hal" otoh gives a general description

Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal

2012-12-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 08 December 2012 16:11:14 Anders Wallin did opine: > > Is this an oversight, or just considered as too big for a man page? > > "hal" by itself is not a command you would execute from the terminal. > "man hal" otoh gives a general description of hal. On your machines, but not on mine,

Re: [Emc-users] Button paint and engraving

2012-12-08 Thread Erik Friesen
I don't see an easy way to make multicolored silicon rubber buttons, though. I shouldn't even open my mind to doing silicon, its one of those things that is tempting though. I guess I could try making my own buttons with translucent black acrylic. I am stuck using something that will fit on top o

Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal

2012-12-08 Thread Anders Wallin
> Is this an oversight, or just considered as too big for a man page? > "hal" by itself is not a command you would execute from the terminal. "man hal" otoh gives a general description of hal. so this is roughly OK I would say. halscope would be an example of a command that doesn't have a man-pag

Re: [Emc-users] Button paint and engraving

2012-12-08 Thread Jon Elson
Bruce Layne wrote: > If you're stuck with front surface engraving, then I'd engrave deeply > and use a lot of paint, or several layers of paint and several layers of > clear coat on top. Another trick that can work well is to use a liquid > paint instead of a rattle can of spray paint, fill the

[Emc-users] Another gotcha

2012-12-08 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings; IMO the near module needs its input pins renamed in base0, having modules pin numbers in both base1 and base0 is confusing. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My we

[Emc-users] missing man 9 hal

2012-12-08 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings; Is this an oversight, or just considered as too big for a man page? Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: is up!

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC on Hackaday

2012-12-08 Thread bhribar
Hi Chris: Your screen looks great would like to try it. Bill Sent from Samsung tabletChris Morley wrote: > Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 14:21:34 -0800 > From: btpaul...@gmail.com > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC on Hackaday > > Stuart - I agree, Im just

Re: [Emc-users] My electronic fuse, using the comp(are) module

2012-12-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 08 December 2012 12:51:07 andy pugh did opine: > On 8 December 2012 03:13, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Setting a trip point in the hal file, and a hystersis value there too, > > I have only been feeding comp.0.in1 and using the out as motion > > enable. > > That is sort-of OK, though tha

Re: [Emc-users] Button paint and engraving

2012-12-08 Thread Bruce Layne
On 12/08/2012 08:31 AM, Erik Friesen wrote: > Really the right way to do this would be to get a silicon keypad made, but > for a one off project that is unworkable. It sounds like you've already gone through a lot of trouble on this, which is typical for a one off project. For all of your effo

Re: [Emc-users] My electronic fuse, using the comp(are) module

2012-12-08 Thread andy pugh
On 8 December 2012 03:13, Gene Heskett wrote: > Setting a trip point in the hal file, and a hystersis value there too, I > have only been feeding comp.0.in1 and using the out as motion enable. That is sort-of OK, though that assumes that an unlinked pin is zero. I assume you are setting the sens

Re: [Emc-users] Button paint and engraving

2012-12-08 Thread Mark Wendt
On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Erik Friesen wrote: > I doubt it. Some companies won't talk to you unless you are willing to > spend $50k, the next may want $1k, its a gamble. They do put an stl of the > button on their website, I guess if I had a two color 3d printer I could do > it that way?

Re: [Emc-users] Button paint and engraving

2012-12-08 Thread Erik Friesen
I doubt it. Some companies won't talk to you unless you are willing to spend $50k, the next may want $1k, its a gamble. They do put an stl of the button on their website, I guess if I had a two color 3d printer I could do it that way? On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 8:36 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: > On Sat

Re: [Emc-users] Button paint and engraving

2012-12-08 Thread Mark Wendt
On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Erik Friesen wrote: > Thanks for those ideas. I really would like black buttons with white > lettering, but the only way to get translucent buttons is in white. I > guess I could consider reversing it, and infilling the engraving. > > My initial experiments didn't

Re: [Emc-users] Button paint and engraving

2012-12-08 Thread Erik Friesen
Thanks for those ideas. I really would like black buttons with white lettering, but the only way to get translucent buttons is in white. I guess I could consider reversing it, and infilling the engraving. My initial experiments didn't work well doing infilling, so I did one using a black auto pr