Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 16 March 2014 02:46:15 Peter C. Wallace did opine: > On Sat, 15 Mar 2014, Philipp Burch wrote: > > Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 22:27:27 +0100 > > From: Philipp Burch > > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > > > > > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re:

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-15 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 03/15/2014 04:44 PM, Peter Homann wrote: > Hi, > > If you are after closed loop spindle control for a KBIC style treadmill > controller a 5Hz PWM signal driving a PWM to analog converter is unlikely to > provide a satisfying result. Most close loop control systems use a 1KHz update > rate. You m

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-15 Thread andy pugh
On 16 March 2014 00:35, Gene Heskett wrote: > That is an interesting idea Andy, but with 3 uptodate LCNC installs here > that DO include the docs, I find it puzzling that there is not now, an > installed man page for lincurve on either of these 3 machines. Lincurve is currently only present in M

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 15 March 2014 20:28:31 andy pugh did opine: > On 16 March 2014 00:06, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> Alternatively, why not run closed-loop spindle speed, then it doesn't > >> matter if the control is non linear. > > > > Because of the positive gain, enough Pgain to make it work fairly > >

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-15 Thread Philipp Burch
Hi Peter! On 03/15/2014 09:34 PM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: > On Sat, 15 Mar 2014, Philipp Burch wrote: > >> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 20:45:18 +0100 >> From: Philipp Burch >> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >> >> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] I&$@

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-15 Thread andy pugh
On 16 March 2014 00:06, Gene Heskett wrote: >> Alternatively, why not run closed-loop spindle speed, then it doesn't >> matter if the control is non linear. > > Because of the positive gain, enough Pgain to make it work fairly stiff > at 300 rpm, is enough to make it obviously oscillate at 800 rpm

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 15 March 2014 19:37:55 andy pugh did opine: > On 14 March 2014 20:23, Gene Heskett wrote: > > So it looks like I need another, but it seems to me there ought to be > > another choice besides this non-linear POS, and the PMDX-106. > > Why are you so obsessed by linearity? I thought yo

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-15 Thread Peter Homann
Hi, If you are after closed loop spindle control for a KBIC style treadmill controller a 5Hz PWM signal driving a PWM to analog converter is unlikely to provide a satisfying result. Most close loop control systems use a 1KHz update rate. You may get adequate results with a 100Hz update but 5Hz

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-15 Thread andy pugh
On 14 March 2014 20:23, Gene Heskett wrote: > So it looks like I need another, but it seems to me there ought to be > another choice besides this non-linear POS, and the PMDX-106. Why are you so obsessed by linearity? I thought you had already managed to linearise in software? Alternatively, why

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 15 March 2014 17:49:19 Philipp Burch did opine: > Hi Peter! > > On 03/15/2014 09:34 PM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: > > On Sat, 15 Mar 2014, Philipp Burch wrote: > >> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 20:45:18 +0100 > >> From: Philipp Burch > >> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > >> >

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 15 March 2014 17:51:10 Peter C. Wallace did opine: > On Sat, 15 Mar 2014, Philipp Burch wrote: > > Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 22:27:27 +0100 > > From: Philipp Burch > > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > > > > > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-15 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sat, 15 Mar 2014, Philipp Burch wrote: > Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 22:27:27 +0100 > From: Philipp Burch > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell. > > Hi Peter! > > On 03/15/2014 09:34 P

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 15 March 2014 16:53:05 Peter C. Wallace did opine: > On Sat, 15 Mar 2014, Philipp Burch wrote: > > Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 20:45:18 +0100 > > From: Philipp Burch > > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > > > > > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-15 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sat, 15 Mar 2014, Philipp Burch wrote: > Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 20:45:18 +0100 > From: Philipp Burch > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell. > > Hi Gene! > > On 03/14/2014 09:23 PM

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 15 March 2014 15:57:25 Philipp Burch did opine: > Hi Gene! > > On 03/14/2014 09:23 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings again; > > > > After putting in a diode, that part seemed to work, but this C41 seems > > to have gone south again. (and again (and again)), and its looking > > li

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-15 Thread Philipp Burch
Hi Gene! On 03/14/2014 09:23 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings again; > > After putting in a diode, that part seemed to work, but this C41 seems to > have gone south again. (and again (and again)), and its looking like a 4th > one has failed. Symptoms seem to be an output impedance in the 10

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 15 March 2014 14:33:33 Gene Heskett did opine: > On Saturday 15 March 2014 06:42:37 Steve Blackmore did opine: > > On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 16:23:33 -0400, you wrote: > > >Greetings again; > > > > > >After putting in a diode, that part seemed to work, but this C41 > > >seems to have gone so

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 15 March 2014 06:42:37 Steve Blackmore did opine: > On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 16:23:33 -0400, you wrote: > >Greetings again; > > > >After putting in a diode, that part seemed to work, but this C41 seems > >to have gone south again. (and again (and again)), and its looking > >like a 4th one h

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-15 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 16:23:33 -0400, you wrote: >Greetings again; > >After putting in a diode, that part seemed to work, but this C41 seems to >have gone south again. (and again (and again)), and its looking like a 4th >one has failed. Symptoms seem to be an output impedance in the 100k >region