[Emc-users] OT: Fanuc 0M setup

2020-10-20 Thread Roland Jollivet
Thanks for all the replies. I'll know more when I get the machine. The agent will probably do the mod, but even then I'm hesitant. If he screws up I'm the one sitting with a big anchor... I think I'll use it as-is for a few months, learn more, then take the leap. Roland On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at

Re: [Emc-users] driver for a DC motor for a BS-1.

2020-10-20 Thread Scott Harwell via Emc-users
The KB drives are solid. They have been around for many years and work well. The last one I used was for an index motor on a large lathe and it ran for years no problems. I don't think it is fast enough for a servo. Scott H On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 7:00:00 PM CDT, Dave Cole wrote:

[Emc-users] mesaflash problem, Peter

2020-10-20 Thread Gene Heskett
Doing some searching, both on mesanet.com and on my 3 wintel machines, there is not a linux version of mesaflash I can find thats newer than 2014. The linux version is no longer part of the 5i25.zip, nor the hostmot2.zip downloads. So what should I use on that elderly Dell, to reflash a 5i25?

Re: [Emc-users] driver for a DC motor for a BS-1.

2020-10-20 Thread John Dammeyer
> > This is the replacement AC Servo. 110SM-M0630MAL with companion > > drive. 1.8KW, 3000 RPM, 6Nm rated torque, 18Nm peak torque, Peak > > Current 18A and 2500 line encoder. Runs very quietly. > > http://www.autoartisans.com/mill/NewPulleys-1.jpg > > Just in case anyone is interested I

[Emc-users] 2 more questionsfor Peter

2020-10-20 Thread Gene Heskett
1. what firmware should I flash a 5i25 with when I expect to have a 100% usable 7i76D plugged into the 5i25's p3, and a 100% usable std sainsmart 5 axis parport bob plugged into its p2? 2. I've rebuilt the p2 cable, it was 3 or 4 years old and pin 7 was several hundred ohms. And it now rings

Re: [Emc-users] driver for a DC motor for a BS-1.

2020-10-20 Thread Dave Cole
I didn't think that we were talking about positioning. I thought you were talking about a spindle drive. I think it could be used as a low performance positioning drive. You would need an opto coupler setup for the command obviously if there is no isolation. I'm not sure that the newer KB

Re: [Emc-users] driver for a DC motor for a BS-1.

2020-10-20 Thread John Dammeyer
Those are the types used for robots or drones? > -Original Message- > From: linux...@rodes.biz [mailto:linux...@rodes.biz] > Sent: October-20-20 4:46 PM > To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] driver for a DC motor for a BS-1. > > Try one of these DC drives.

Re: [Emc-users] driver for a DC motor for a BS-1.

2020-10-20 Thread linuxcnc
Try one of these DC drives. Work pretty well. I have 3 on my Bridgeport Series II https://www.cytron.io/p-20amp-6v-30v-dc-motor-driver and Amazon has 'em. N. -Original Message- From: Gene Heskett Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 2:33 PM To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject:

Re: [Emc-users] addf pwmgen.make-pulses base-thread, has this been deprecated when mesa cards are used?

2020-10-20 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
> > And indeed, the cable was duff. So I think thats been fixed for a year or > so, by cutting both connectors off and squeezing new ones on. And while > I was putzing with that, the 150 watt audio board arrived, and I've been > playing with that. Laying the motor on the kitchen counter, with a

Re: [Emc-users] driver for a DC motor for a BS-1.

2020-10-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 20 October 2020 16:04:16 Dave Cole wrote: > What about using a common KB Electronics DC drive? > Woot.com (Amazon discount site) is selling one for $89.  I think they > can commonly be found on Ebay as well. > > Dave I haven't got $99 in the 5, 3 different types I'm playing with.

Re: [Emc-users] driver for a DC motor for a BS-1.

2020-10-20 Thread John Dammeyer
> From: Jon Elson [mailto:el...@pico-systems.com] > On 10/20/2020 03:19 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: > > > > I looked at their web site. (google KB Electronic DC drive). Seems like > > pretty nice stuff although I wonder if they would react fast > enough to a closed loop control. If that was

Re: [Emc-users] addf pwmgen.make-pulses base-thread, has this been deprecated when mesa cards are used?

2020-10-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 20 October 2020 12:08:28 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 20 October 2020 07:08:26 andy pugh wrote: > > On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 10:22, Gene Heskett > > wrote: > > > [485180.220310] hm2/hm2_5i25.0: IO Pin 008 (P3-05): PWMGen #0, > > > pin Out1 (Dir or Down) (Output) [485180.220317]

Re: [Emc-users] driver for a DC motor for a BS-1.

2020-10-20 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/20/2020 03:19 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: I looked at their web site. (google KB Electronic DC drive). Seems like pretty nice stuff although I wonder if they would react fast enough to a closed loop control. If that was even wanted. One of the drives does support tachometer feedback.

Re: [Emc-users] driver for a DC motor for a BS-1.

2020-10-20 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/20/2020 03:04 PM, Dave Cole wrote: What about using a common KB Electronics DC drive? Woot.com (Amazon discount site) is selling one for $89. I think they can commonly be found on Note that these drives are NOT isolated from the mains. Anything that doesn't provide isolation for the

Re: [Emc-users] driver for a DC motor for a BS-1.

2020-10-20 Thread John Dammeyer
> From: Mark Johnsen [mailto:m...@ijohnsen.com] > KB electronics is good stuff. Similar to the Minarik DC drives. > Industrial rated... > > Don't know about the reaction time for closed loop, but you could call them > and I'd think their apps engr would have some idea... My experience >

Re: [Emc-users] driver for a DC motor for a BS-1.

2020-10-20 Thread Mark Johnsen
KB electronics is good stuff. Similar to the Minarik DC drives. Industrial rated... Don't know about the reaction time for closed loop, but you could call them and I'd think their apps engr would have some idea... My experience (probably limited) has not seen those types of DC drives closed

Re: [Emc-users] driver for a DC motor for a BS-1.

2020-10-20 Thread John Dammeyer
> -Original Message- > From: Dave Cole [mailto:linuxcncro...@gmail.com] > Sent: October-20-20 1:04 PM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] driver for a DC motor for a BS-1. > > What about using a common KB Electronics DC drive? > Woot.com (Amazon discount

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Fanuc 0M setup

2020-10-20 Thread Dave Cole
I forget what version of the Fanuc Controllers this applies to, but there were some controllers that had a compact flash slot on the front. The compact flash slot was used to load and read out the PLC program logic and the other controller settings.   The programming was done offline on a

Re: [Emc-users] driver for a DC motor for a BS-1.

2020-10-20 Thread Dave Cole
What about using a common KB Electronics DC drive? Woot.com (Amazon discount site) is selling one for $89.  I think they can commonly be found on Ebay as well. Dave On 10/19/2020 5:22 PM, grumpy--- via Emc-users wrote: On Sun, 18 Oct 2020, John Dammeyer wrote: Way back in 2003 I started a

Re: [Emc-users] addf pwmgen.make-pulses base-thread, has this been deprecated when mesa cards are used?

2020-10-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 20 October 2020 07:08:26 andy pugh wrote: > On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 10:22, Gene Heskett wrote: > > [485180.220310] hm2/hm2_5i25.0: IO Pin 008 (P3-05): PWMGen #0, > > pin Out1 (Dir or Down) (Output) [485180.220317] hm2/hm2_5i25.0: > > IO Pin 009 (P3-06): PWMGen #0, pin Out0

Re: [Emc-users] trying to trace a missing pwm signal

2020-10-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 20 October 2020 06:41:53 andy pugh wrote: > On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 10:30, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I forget, whatever puts a std bob on its p2, and a 7i76D on its p3. > > dmesg doesn't show the 5i25 bit file in use. > > Does dmesg tell you anything? Are you getting the pinout listing?

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Fanuc 0M setup

2020-10-20 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/20/2020 02:29 AM, Roland Jollivet wrote: Also, if I want to ditch the controller at a later stage, are the Fanuc servo drives interfaceable to EMC? Can you say what servo amps you have? The oldest Fanuc had standard analog velocity servos, but instead of a DC tachometer, they

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Fanuc 0M setup

2020-10-20 Thread Todd Zuercher
I'm not going to be any help there either. Never tried to retrofit a Fanuc machine. But my understanding is the older the better for trying to retrofit. The newer all digital amps (they are more amps than drives because even the commutation is done in the control) with optical connections

Re: [Emc-users] addf pwmgen.make-pulses base-thread, has this been deprecated when mesa cards are used?

2020-10-20 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 10:22, Gene Heskett wrote: > [485180.220310] hm2/hm2_5i25.0: IO Pin 008 (P3-05): PWMGen #0, pin Out1 > (Dir or Down) (Output) > [485180.220317] hm2/hm2_5i25.0: IO Pin 009 (P3-06): PWMGen #0, pin Out0 > (PWM or Up) (Output) > > Which is NOT where they actually are

Re: [Emc-users] trying to trace a missing pwm signal

2020-10-20 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 10:30, Gene Heskett wrote: > I forget, whatever puts a std bob on its p2, and a 7i76D on its p3. > dmesg doesn't show the 5i25 bit file in use. Does dmesg tell you anything? Are you getting the pinout listing? -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium

Re: [Emc-users] driver for a DC motor for a BS-1.

2020-10-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 20 October 2020 04:05:59 John Dammeyer wrote: > Hi Marcus, > > > -Original Message- > > From: marcus.bow...@visible.eclipse.co.uk > > [mailto:marcus.bow...@visible.eclipse.co.uk] Sent: October-20-20 > > 12:02 AM > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > > Subject: Re:

Re: [Emc-users] trying to trace a missing pwm signal

2020-10-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 20 October 2020 03:36:34 andy pugh wrote: > On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 04:15, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I am currently setup to use a 2nd pwmgen in a 5i25, which should > > come out on the bob plugged onto p2 at pin 5 dir as dir, and pin 6 > > for the pwm. > > Only if your firmware has

Re: [Emc-users] addf pwmgen.make-pulses base-thread, has this been deprecated when mesa cards are used?

2020-10-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 20 October 2020 03:33:58 andy pugh wrote: > On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 04:31, Gene Heskett wrote: > > My first ever config use sw steppers, has those addf's. But no > > config in the last 4 or so years has it. > > You still need it if using software pwmgen. Which I am not, this is the

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Fanuc 0M setup

2020-10-20 Thread andrew beck
Sorry about the spelling! My phone Autocorrect keyboard made a mess On Tue, Oct 20, 2020, 9:42 PM andrew beck wrote: > Hat just saw this. I'm currently stripping a old fanuc lathe to run > linuxcnc. I found that the fanuc servo drives are too hard to with with. > But to mention so old. I

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Fanuc 0M setup

2020-10-20 Thread andrew beck
Hat just saw this. I'm currently stripping a old fanuc lathe to run linuxcnc. I found that the fanuc servo drives are too hard to with with. But to mention so old. I just buy new Chinese servo motors and drives. They are $300 usd for a 2.4kw matching drive and motor. And really high quality.

Re: [Emc-users] driver for a DC motor for a BS-1.

2020-10-20 Thread John Dammeyer
Hi Marcus, > -Original Message- > From: marcus.bow...@visible.eclipse.co.uk > [mailto:marcus.bow...@visible.eclipse.co.uk] > Sent: October-20-20 12:02 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] driver for a DC motor for a BS-1. > > On 2020-10-19 23:30, John

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Fanuc 0M setup

2020-10-20 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 08:32, Roland Jollivet wrote: > Also, if I want to ditch the controller at a later stage, are the Fanuc > servo drives interfaceable to EMC? Some are. Which isn't a very helpful answer, I suppose. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is

Re: [Emc-users] trying to trace a missing pwm signal

2020-10-20 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 04:15, Gene Heskett wrote: > I am currently setup to use a 2nd pwmgen in a 5i25, which should come > out on the bob plugged onto p2 at pin 5 dir as dir, and pin 6 for the > pwm. Only if your firmware has that pwmgen. Which firmware is the 5i25 flashed with? The dmesg

Re: [Emc-users] addf pwmgen.make-pulses base-thread, has this been deprecated when mesa cards are used?

2020-10-20 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 04:31, Gene Heskett wrote: > > My first ever config use sw steppers, has those addf's. But no config in > the last 4 or so years has it. You still need it if using software pwmgen. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the

[Emc-users] OT: Fanuc 0M setup

2020-10-20 Thread Roland Jollivet
Thanks Todd Is there an easy way for me to check on the console if the ladder is editable, as is? Also, if I want to ditch the controller at a later stage, are the Fanuc servo drives interfaceable to EMC? Regards Roland On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 15:42, Todd Zuercher wrote: > If your Fanuc

Re: [Emc-users] driver for a DC motor for a BS-1.

2020-10-20 Thread marcus . bowman
On 2020-10-19 23:30, John Dammeyer wrote: I haven't looked into what's available from China other than the Bergerda AC Servos I'm using as a mill spindle and will be using as the South Bend Lathe Lead screw upgrade. Can you tell me the model of servo, please. And explain the control device?