Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Requesting a short history review, if you'd be so kind.

2021-10-28 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Thu, 28 Oct 2021, Chris Albertson wrote: Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2021 12:23:34 -0700 From: Chris Albertson Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Requesting a short history review, if you&#x

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Requesting a short history review, if you'd be so kind.

2021-10-28 Thread Chris Albertson
Gene is getting good results with his 3-phase steppers and no PID control in LCNC because the 3-phase steppers have internal PID position control loops in the motor driver electronics. These motors have an encoder wheel for feedback. So these steppers are basically the same as a servo with feedba

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Requesting a short history review, if you'd be so kind.

2021-10-28 Thread Sam Sokolik
This is a quote from peter on the forum.. 'I have done some experimentation and have found that you can get better stepgen following performance on systems with moderate jitter by using a PID loop for position control instead of the stepgen drivers built-in position control loop. The problem with

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Requesting a short history review, if you'd be so kind.

2021-10-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 28 October 2021 11:45:49 Sam Sokolik wrote: > All my machines - steppers and servos are running pid.I think > Peter forgot to mention - The reason PID is recommended is because it > handles latency spikes way better. We have seen situations where a > latency spike confuses the hel

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Requesting a short history review, if you'd be so kind.

2021-10-28 Thread Sam Sokolik
All my machines - steppers and servos are running pid.I think Peter forgot to mention - The reason PID is recommended is because it handles latency spikes way better. We have seen situations where a latency spike confuses the hell out of position mode stepgens. (ymmv) On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 a

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Requesting a short history review, if you'd be so kind.

2021-10-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 27 October 2021 14:35:30 Ted wrote: > Greets - although I haven't read every post of late, I've been an LCNC > follower since we had BDI's of EMC; LCNC has been my platform of > choice for many projects. > > Like many, I started with software stepgens driving open loop > steppers, and

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Requesting a short history review, if you'd be so kind.

2021-10-27 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Wed, 27 Oct 2021, Ted wrote: Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2021 14:35:30 -0400 From: Ted Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] Fwd: Requesting a short history review, if you'd be so kind. Greets - although I hav

[Emc-users] Fwd: Requesting a short history review, if you'd be so kind.

2021-10-27 Thread Ted
Greets - although I haven't read every post of late, I've been an LCNC follower since we had BDI's of EMC; LCNC has been my platform of choice for many projects. Like many, I started with software stepgens driving open loop steppers, and although my shelves are full of them, I typically reach