Re: [Emc-users] Integrators Manual

2013-04-24 Thread Rudy du Preez
I recently added the Servo and Stepper subsections to the [AXIS_num] section based on your suggestion. If you fetch a newer pdf you'll find the new subsections there too. -- Sebastian Kuzminsky Thanks, that is a step forward, but I still have issues with the wording on the two parameters

Re: [Emc-users] Integrators Manual - Why one Document

2013-04-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 23 April 2013 16:16:48 Stuart Stevenson did opine: Gene - The parabole function may not work but I see the hyperbole button is working. :) ROTFLMAO! Thanks for the flowers Stuart! But, really, does it HAVE to be that picky? Seems to me that .0001 or .005mm really ought to be

Re: [Emc-users] Integrators Manual - Why one Document

2013-04-23 Thread John Kasunich
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013, at 04:21 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 23 April 2013 16:16:48 Stuart Stevenson did opine: Gene - The parabole function may not work but I see the hyperbole button is working. :) ROTFLMAO! Thanks for the flowers Stuart! But, really, does it HAVE to be that

Re: [Emc-users] Integrators Manual - Why one Document

2013-04-23 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 11:57:24 -0400, you wrote: What is the path tolerance thing, G64? In any event, it has no effect, you can tell it to use a .5000 tolerance but you cannot get past the brick wall that is the error checker for g2-3. I don't think G64 was ever intended to override arc end

Re: [Emc-users] Integrators Manual - Why one Document

2013-04-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 23 April 2013 20:12:51 Steve Blackmore did opine: On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 11:57:24 -0400, you wrote: What is the path tolerance thing, G64? In any event, it has no effect, you can tell it to use a .5000 tolerance but you cannot get past the brick wall that is the error checker for

Re: [Emc-users] Integrators Manual

2013-04-23 Thread John Thornton
The biggest problem is none of the items after the warning are actually used by LinuxCNC. When the subheading was there it implied that LinuxCNC actually used them somehow. IMHO each one of those entries really belongs with what ever component might use them, but I have no way of knowing which

Re: [Emc-users] Integrators Manual - Why one Document

2013-04-23 Thread John Thornton
At one time there were 4 manuals and 2 of them contained almost the same content. After years of work I put the stuff needed for a newbee to get started into the Getting Started Manual pdf and the stuff needed to USE LinuxCNC in the User Manual pdf and the stuff needed to integrate LinuxCNC

Re: [Emc-users] Integrators Manual - Why one Document

2013-04-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 23 April 2013 10:35:41 John Thornton did opine: At one time there were 4 manuals and 2 of them contained almost the same content. After years of work I put the stuff needed for a newbee to get started into the Getting Started Manual pdf and the stuff needed to USE LinuxCNC in the

Re: [Emc-users] Integrators Manual - Why one Document

2013-04-23 Thread andy pugh
On 23 April 2013 15:57, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: The biggest confusion to me yet is that even though the machine is in absolute movement mode, G2/3 moves are still made relative to where it starts from, See G91.1 http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/gcode.html#sec:G90_1-G91_1

Re: [Emc-users] Integrators Manual

2013-04-23 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 4/23/2013 7:34 AM, John Thornton wrote: The biggest problem is none of the items after the warning are actually used by LinuxCNC. When the subheading was there it implied that LinuxCNC actually used them somehow. IMHO each one of those entries really belongs with what ever component might

Re: [Emc-users] Integrators Manual - Why one Document

2013-04-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 23 April 2013 11:30:19 andy pugh did opine: On 23 April 2013 15:57, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: The biggest confusion to me yet is that even though the machine is in absolute movement mode, G2/3 moves are still made relative to where it starts from, See G91.1

Re: [Emc-users] Integrators Manual

2013-04-23 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 04/23/2013 09:37 AM, Kent A. Reed wrote: That issue aside, I just did what I should have done yesterday and compared the HTML and PDF versions of the Integrator manual. The subheadings Rudy and I questioned are present in the HTML version

Re: [Emc-users] Integrators Manual - Why one Document

2013-04-23 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gene - The parabole function may not work but I see the hyperbole button is working. :) On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Tuesday 23 April 2013 11:30:19 andy pugh did opine: On 23 April 2013 15:57, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: The biggest

Re: [Emc-users] Integrators Manual

2013-04-22 Thread Rudy du Preez
I find pages 20 to 23 of the Integrators manual V2.5, 2013-03-26 very confusing: Page 20 is headed 3.2.10.1 Homing. It discusses HOME related parameters and the suddenly jumps into PID settings. Is that correct? At least a heading is missing. Please read the paragraph on OUTPUT_OFFSET = 0.000

Re: [Emc-users] Integrators Manual

2013-04-22 Thread Andrew
2013/4/22 Rudy du Preez r...@asmsa.co.za How can the second value (offset) first be subtracted from the computed value (in volts) and the be divided by the first value (scale)? Offset is also measured in volts, I guess. Andrew

Re: [Emc-users] Integrators Manual

2013-04-22 Thread Rudy du Preez
22-April: Andrew parallel.kinemat...@gmail.com How can the second value (offset) first be subtracted from the computed value (in volts) and the be divided by the first value (scale)? Offset is also measured in volts, I guess. At the bottom of page 21 it uses mm/s for the offset. I

Re: [Emc-users] Integrators Manual

2013-04-22 Thread John Thornton
Did you skip past the Warning? On 4/22/2013 2:06 AM, Rudy du Preez wrote: I find pages 20 to 23 of the Integrators manual V2.5, 2013-03-26 very confusing: Page 20 is headed 3.2.10.1 Homing. It discusses HOME related parameters and the suddenly jumps into PID settings. Is that correct? At

Re: [Emc-users] Integrators Manual

2013-04-22 Thread John Thornton
If you can nail down exactly what is wrong/missing I can fix it. There was quite a bit of struggle to get the equations converted to asciidoc. I don't completely understand the equations so that makes it even harder for me. John On 4/22/2013 6:01 AM, Rudy du Preez wrote: 22-April: Andrew

Re: [Emc-users] Integrators Manual

2013-04-22 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 4/22/2013 7:05 AM, John Thornton wrote: Did you skip past the Warning? On 4/22/2013 2:06 AM, Rudy du Preez wrote: I find pages 20 to 23 of the Integrators manual V2.5, 2013-03-26 very confusing: Page 20 is headed 3.2.10.1 Homing. It discusses HOME related parameters and the suddenly

Re: [Emc-users] Integrators Manual, second part of answer

2013-04-22 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 4/22/2013 7:01 AM, Rudy du Preez wrote: 22-April: Andrew parallel.kinemat...@gmail.com How can the second value (offset) first be subtracted from the computed value (in volts) and the be divided by the first value (scale)? Offset is also measured in volts, I guess. At the bottom of page

Re: [Emc-users] Integrators Manual

2013-04-22 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- On Mon, 4/22/13, Kent A. Reed kentallanr...@gmail.com wrote: 4.2.9.2 Servo The following items are for servo-based systems and servo-like systems. 4.2.9.3 Stepper The following items are Stepper related items. Wouldn't it be less confusing to have two separate documents, one just

Re: [Emc-users] Integrators Manual - Why one Document

2013-04-22 Thread Greg Bentzinger
There are multible manuals - This is the integrators manual.   LCNC is whatever you choose to make it.   There are many configs which combine stepper and servo methods of control, be it a servo running step/dir signals or otherwise.   A mill I have in progress uses servos via +/-10V signals for X

Re: [Emc-users] Integrators Manual - Why one Document

2013-04-22 Thread Belli Button
Manuals? Who reads manuals?? - Original Message - From: Greg Bentzinger skullwo...@yahoo.com To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 10:21 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Integrators Manual - Why one Document There are multible manuals - This is the integrators