Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-24 Thread Rene Hopf
Hi Nico This was the part that confused me the most. I did compile the terminal but dont know how to use your HAL like framework. Would you mind giving some pointers please. I have ordered my STM board already and I want to really partake in testing your work. I have added some

Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-23 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 11/22/2014 12:49 PM, el cringo wrote: Hi, i just added pdfs for the current hw version. The eagle files are for version 6.5.0. We once tried KiCad but we are a lot better with eagle. Thank you. I looked at your pdfs. I also installed the latest LinuxCNC ( 2.6 with Wheezy) on a PC and

Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-23 Thread el cringo
Hi, there is no current feedback yet and the over current protection is copied from the UHU servo controller (http://www.uhu-servo.de/). The next version will have a small cpu for this stuff (cheaper, neads less space and is far more flexible). We are planning to include a current prediction in

Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-23 Thread Rene Hopf
On 24 Nov 2014, at 02:02, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com wrote: On 11/22/2014 12:49 PM, el cringo wrote: Hi, i just added pdfs for the current hw version. The eagle files are for version 6.5.0. We once tried KiCad but we are a lot better with eagle. Thank you. I looked at your

Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-23 Thread Rene Hopf
some screenshots of the term(already outdated), and our development hardware https://www.dropbox.com/s/gqx0h809odek0pj/Screenshot%202014-11-04%2016.03.51.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/5k7ji9ncqy5t3w7/Screenshot%202014-11-04%2016.06.08.png?dl=0

Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-23 Thread Marius Liebenberg
On 2014-11-24 03:35, el cringo wrote: Hi, there is no current feedback yet and the over current protection is copied from the UHU servo controller (http://www.uhu-servo.de/). The next version will have a small cpu for this stuff (cheaper, neads less space and is far more flexible). We are

Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-22 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Sounds like you are moving in the right direction with this project. I for one will be watching with keen interest. If you need any assistance with pcb layouts or testing, let me know and I will gladly assist. On 2014-11-22 05:10, el cringo wrote: Hi, i am working with Rene on this project.

Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-22 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 11/22/2014 05:11 AM, Marius Liebenberg wrote: Sounds like you are moving in the right direction with this project. I for one will be watching with keen interest. If you need any assistance with pcb layouts or testing, let me know and I will gladly assist. On 2014-11-22 05:10, el cringo

Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-22 Thread el cringo
Hi, i just added pdfs for the current hw version. The eagle files are for version 6.5.0. We once tried KiCad but we are a lot better with eagle. If you want to try our hal implementation connect a stm32f4-discovery (we use the old version with the stm32f407 cpu but it should work on all

Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-21 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Hi Rene Very interesting work you have done there. Which one of the hardware options is used in the video demonstration? On 2014-11-21 03:56, Rene Hopf wrote: On 20 Nov 2014, at 19:14, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 November 2014 17:56, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com

Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-21 Thread Rene Hopf
IRAMX-drv-v2 as a driver board, and res with the stm32f4discovery. The video is only at 160V. If we met in Stuttgart, it is the same hardware, running at higher voltage, and improved software. I am currently developing new hardware. Rene On 21 Nov 2014, at 09:39, Marius Liebenberg

Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-21 Thread Marius Liebenberg
What are you changing on the hardware? On 2014-11-21 13:06, Rene Hopf wrote: IRAMX-drv-v2 as a driver board, and res with the stm32f4discovery. The video is only at 160V. If we met in Stuttgart, it is the same hardware, running at higher voltage, and improved software. I am currently

Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-21 Thread el cringo
Hi, i am working with Rene on this project. For the next hardware version we are planning to support resolvers (3-8Vpp ref, 1-12Vpp sin/cos) and encoders/gms (ttl / 1Vpp / 11µA) with a single interface. The current resolver only interface is a bit noisy (resolution: 12-13bit/rev, accuracy:

Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-20 Thread Marius Liebenberg
On 2014-11-18 20:28, andy pugh wrote: On 18 November 2014 17:33, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com wrote: The more I think about it, adding Halls seems to be the way to go. Resolvers are _really_ good transducers. It seems a shame not to use them. I have no boards left. But I can pass

Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-20 Thread andy pugh
On 20 November 2014 14:29, Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za wrote: Andy why were you disappointed with the position feedback. Will it be ok on a slow moving bed? Do you think a more powerful MCU will do the trick? It was noisy and dithered a lot. The Arduino has to measure 2 voltages

Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-20 Thread Marius Liebenberg
On 2014-11-20 19:25, andy pugh wrote: On 20 November 2014 14:29, Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za wrote: Andy why were you disappointed with the position feedback. Will it be ok on a slow moving bed? Do you think a more powerful MCU will do the trick? It was noisy and dithered a lot.

Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-20 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 11/20/2014 09:25 AM, andy pugh wrote: ... snip Yes, a more powerful MCU would be better, and it so happens that Mesa and Pico sell exactly that all ready to go. Why will nobody believe me when I say that my experiment was rubbish? Because Arduinos are so cute. I seem to recall, to get

Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-20 Thread andy pugh
On 20 November 2014 17:56, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com wrote: I seem to recall, to get fast PWM, I had to use Timer1 and not use the Arduino PWM library. I wonder if the resolver decoder might be improved in a similar fashion? I haven't had the time to study Andy's code, but it

Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-20 Thread Rene Hopf
On 20 Nov 2014, at 19:14, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 November 2014 17:56, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com wrote: I seem to recall, to get fast PWM, I had to use Timer1 and not use the Arduino PWM library. I wonder if the resolver decoder might be improved in a

Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-19 Thread andy pugh
On 19 November 2014 03:43, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: I have also sold over 100 of the Pico Systems resolver to quadrature converter board. They can be used with any system that needs a quadrature encoder signal. It should also be possible to use this with the bldc HAL component

Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-19 Thread Jon Elson
On 11/19/2014 03:53 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 19 November 2014 03:43, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: I have also sold over 100 of the Pico Systems resolver to quadrature converter board. They can be used with any system that needs a quadrature encoder signal. It should also be

Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-19 Thread andy pugh
On 19 November 2014 17:21, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: The problem is as our resolver converter is, NOW, it only produces quadrature plus index. ... But, it would need to know the number of motor poles and the angular offset. The bldc component can handle that. There an

Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-19 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Andy What interface board would you typically use with the bldc component? Not the parport I assume. On 2014-11-19 19:26, andy pugh wrote: On 19 November 2014 17:21, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: The problem is as our resolver converter is, NOW, it only produces quadrature plus

Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-19 Thread andy pugh
On 19 November 2014 19:15, Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za wrote: What interface board would you typically use with the bldc component? Not the parport I assume. It has been done, there is a Youtube video of someone running Fanuc Red-cap motors from the parport. The only reason not

[Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-18 Thread Kirk Wallace
Andy, it has been a few years since this page changed: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ResolverToQuadratureConverter How well is this working? I'm looking at getting some BLDC motors with resolvers for commutation. -- Kirk Wallace http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/

Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 November 2014 16:31, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com wrote: Andy, it has been a few years since this page changed: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ResolverToQuadratureConverter How well is this working? I'm looking at getting some BLDC motors with resolvers for

Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-18 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Hi Andy Have you dumped those pcb's yet or shall I send you an address? On 2014-11-18 18:43, andy pugh wrote: On 18 November 2014 16:31, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com wrote: Andy, it has been a few years since this page changed:

Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-18 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 11/18/2014 08:43 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 18 November 2014 16:31, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com wrote: Andy, it has been a few years since this page changed: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ResolverToQuadratureConverter How well is this working? I'm looking at getting

Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 November 2014 17:33, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com wrote: The more I think about it, adding Halls seems to be the way to go. Resolvers are _really_ good transducers. It seems a shame not to use them. I have no boards left. But I can pass on the files to have a batch of PCBs

Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-18 Thread Ben Potter
From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] Sent: 18 November 2014 18:29 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers On 18 November 2014 17:33, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com wrote: The more I think about it, adding Halls seems to be the way

Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 November 2014 18:45, Ben Potter b...@bpuk.org wrote: I have a couple of Andy's boards left. I had noise issues with them that is more than likely how I was using them I think that might be the nature of the board and 8-bit sampling at high speed. It _probably_ doesn't matter as much for

Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-18 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 11/18/2014 10:45 AM, Ben Potter wrote: ... snip I have a couple of Andy's boards left. I had noise issues with them that is more than likely how I was using them. As such I ended up picking up a commercial drive for the motor I was using. KW: If you want them, I'd be happy to send them on.

Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-18 Thread Jon Elson
On 11/18/2014 10:31 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: Andy, it has been a few years since this page changed: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ResolverToQuadratureConverter How well is this working? I'm looking at getting some BLDC motors with resolvers for commutation. I have also sold over