Re: [Emc-users] Multi-meter recommendations

2017-07-16 Thread Chris Albertson
I work on vacuum tube equipment sometimes. AC and DC voltages like 350 to 550 are common there.For safety the only thing that really works is to turn off the equipment, bleed of the power supply voltage to zero (usually there is a bleeder resister permanently installed so waiting a minute of

Re: [Emc-users] Multi-meter recommendations

2017-07-16 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
> ... > decided to "retire" two of my older Flukes to lesser duties and stick > with the new one rated at 1000 volts just for the reasons you mentioned. > ... > If you can afford to work on 480 VAC systems, you can afford a high > quality meter. There certainly is a big difference in money

Re: [Emc-users] Multi-meter recommendations

2017-07-16 Thread Dave Cole
I frequently work on AC and DC industrial drives. Measuring 480 VAC is common and sometimes the DC bus on a 480 Volt input drive as well. I decided to "retire" two of my older Flukes to lesser duties and stick with the new one rated at 1000 volts just for the reasons you mentioned. I

Re: [Emc-users] Multi-meter recommendations

2017-07-15 Thread Chris Albertson
On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 9:54 AM, Nicklas Karlsson < nicklas.karlsso...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thes HP bench multimeters I think have really good accuracy, they do not > run away but are a little bit harder to move. > > Yes, they are for use on the bench. You need a portable one for field work. But

Re: [Emc-users] Multi-meter recommendations

2017-07-15 Thread Andrew
2017-07-15 21:16 GMT+03:00 Danny Miller: > Best deals of out of grey market China sites: > > http://www.dx.com/s/fluke?cateId=0=All%20Categories > > Fluke cut China a deal. 17B+ is over $300 in US. But China will sell you > one of their discounts- same meter- for $130. > > It IS a genuine

Re: [Emc-users] Multi-meter recommendations

2017-07-15 Thread Danny Miller
Best deals of out of grey market China sites: http://www.dx.com/s/fluke?cateId=0=All%20Categories Fluke cut China a deal. 17B+ is over $300 in US. But China will sell you one of their discounts- same meter- for $130. It IS a genuine Fluke. Same product. Only confusion is, on eBay,

Re: [Emc-users] Multi-meter recommendations

2017-07-15 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
Thes HP bench multimeters I think have really good accuracy, they do not run away but are a little bit harder to move. On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 09:47:03 -0700 Chris Albertson wrote: > I agree about Fluke build quality. I have a couple older Fluke portable > DMMs. They

Re: [Emc-users] Multi-meter recommendations

2017-07-15 Thread Chris Albertson
I agree about Fluke build quality. I have a couple older Fluke portable DMMs. They drift out of Cailbration and typically you need to adjust serval pots with a mini-screwdriver.My HP calibrates with push buttons and no disassembly is required. Here is an example, this meter is really

Re: [Emc-users] Multi-meter recommendations

2017-07-15 Thread Chris Albertson
First off you need at least TWO meters. How else can you know if your meter works and gives correct readings unless it agrees with some other meter? Next for this kind of work you don't need a lot of precision. You just need to see if there is "about 24V" on the power lines and even 10%

Re: [Emc-users] Multi-meter recommendations

2017-07-14 Thread dave
On 07/14/2017 08:26 AM, John Kasunich wrote: On Thu, Jul 13, 2017, at 03:48 PM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: Fluke work great but are a little bit expensive. Unless accuracy is important I guess any would do. Fluke is indeed expensive. However, I would change the last part to "Unless _safety_

Re: [Emc-users] Multi-meter recommendations

2017-07-14 Thread John Kasunich
On Thu, Jul 13, 2017, at 03:48 PM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > Fluke work great but are a little bit expensive. Unless accuracy is important > I guess any would do. Fluke is indeed expensive. However, I would change the last part to "Unless _safety_ is important I guess any would do". Cheap

Re: [Emc-users] Multi-meter recommendations

2017-07-13 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
Fluke work great but are a little bit expensive. Unless accuracy is important I guess any would do. On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 10:57:11 -0700 dave wrote: > > > On 07/10/2017 05:16 PM, Christopher wrote: > > What is also great about Fluke products is that you can get just

Re: [Emc-users] Multi-meter recommendations

2017-07-13 Thread dave
On 07/10/2017 05:16 PM, Christopher wrote: What is also great about Fluke products is that you can get just about every spare part you could want and can actually get them calibrated if need be. I have a really nice Fluke 87 that I bought used. It was pretty beat up when I got it, but I

Re: [Emc-users] Multi-meter recommendations

2017-07-10 Thread Christopher
What is also great about Fluke products is that you can get just about every spare part you could want and can actually get them calibrated if need be. I have a really nice Fluke 87 that I bought used. It was pretty beat up when I got it, but I was able to purchase all the parts I needed to

Re: [Emc-users] Multi-meter recommendations

2017-07-10 Thread andy pugh
On 10 July 2017 at 05:56, Bruce Layne wrote: > I think the best value in a quality DMM is a Chinese Fluke. I am happy with mine (12E+) bought soon after seeing that AvE video. I have also had good service from a Uni-T

Re: [Emc-users] Multi-meter recommendations

2017-07-10 Thread Marcus Bowman
On 10 Jul 2017, at 05:56, Bruce Layne wrote: > First, I'd try replacing the battery in your Radio Shack DMM if you haven't > already. But I'd immediately start looking for a replacement. I'm not a > test equipment snob, but you need to trust your test equipment. If you > aren't sure if

Re: [Emc-users] Multi-meter recommendations

2017-07-09 Thread Bruce Layne
First, I'd try replacing the battery in your Radio Shack DMM if you haven't already. But I'd immediately start looking for a replacement. I'm not a test equipment snob, but you need to trust your test equipment. If you aren't sure if you're testing your circuit or testing your meter, the

[Emc-users] Multi-meter recommendations

2017-07-09 Thread David Berndt
Apologies, this might be slightly OT, but I imagine we all use a Multi-meter a few times a month in our EMC related work. It seems my Micronta 22-174b has given up on life, or has suffered a brain injury at the very least. After not using the meter for about 3 weeks I dusted it off and was