Re: [Emc-users] Not as useful as I thought

2016-01-23 Thread andy pugh
On 22 January 2016 at 20:13, Jon Elson wrote: > Wire +24 to all clutch and brake coils. Wire -24 to the > common terminal on the relay. > Wire other ends of all coils to the individual relay > terminals. This could require some slight rewiring in the > machine. But,

Re: [Emc-users] Not as useful as I thought

2016-01-22 Thread Rick Lair
How bout these, I know that they aren't solid state, but I use them every where. http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Shopping/Catalog/Relays_-z-_Timers/Electro-Mechanical_Relays/Slim_-z-_Card_Relays,_5A_(RS_Series)/RS4N-DE Rick On 1/22/2016 9:37 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 22 January 2016 at

Re: [Emc-users] Not as useful as I thought

2016-01-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 22 January 2016 05:08:32 andy pugh wrote: > I was having trouble sleeping last night, I was obsessing about CNC > machine wiring. > In an attempt to break the cycle I went on eBay and bought > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291551363807 > > In the cold light of day I think I made a mistake.

Re: [Emc-users] Not as useful as I thought

2016-01-22 Thread John Thornton
That's a lot of I/O. On 1/22/2016 9:03 AM, John Kasunich wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016, at 09:57 AM, John Kasunich wrote: > >> The Mazak that we retrofitted at the CNC workshop years ago >> had three 24-channel boards that handled all the I/O - toolchanger, >> hydraulics, interlocks, limit and

Re: [Emc-users] Not as useful as I thought

2016-01-22 Thread John Thornton
Can you mix and match the modules on the OPTO22 board? JT On 1/22/2016 8:57 AM, John Kasunich wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016, at 09:25 AM, John Thornton wrote: >> Do you need some kind of special base for the OPTO-22's? >> >> JT > "Need" depends on how nice you want it to be. There are boards

Re: [Emc-users] Not as useful as I thought

2016-01-22 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/22/2016 04:08 AM, andy pugh wrote: > I was having trouble sleeping last night, I was obsessing about CNC > machine wiring. > In an attempt to break the cycle I went on eBay and bought > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291551363807 That's an amazing device, at that price! Thanks! > > In the cold

Re: [Emc-users] Not as useful as I thought

2016-01-22 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2016-01-22 17:30 GMT+02:00 sam sokolik : > We use these and they plug an play right into mesa 50 pin plugs.. > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Opto22-G4PB24-G4-digital-24-channel-I-O-Module-Rack-used-in-Tech-Lab-only-/221797137044?hash=item33a423ba94:g:dNAAAOSweW5Vdxtc > What do

[Emc-users] Not as useful as I thought

2016-01-22 Thread andy pugh
I was having trouble sleeping last night, I was obsessing about CNC machine wiring. In an attempt to break the cycle I went on eBay and bought http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291551363807 In the cold light of day I think I made a mistake. I wanted to control the two clutches and the brake on my lathe

Re: [Emc-users] Not as useful as I thought

2016-01-22 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 22.01.16 10:08, andy pugh wrote: > I was having trouble sleeping last night, I was obsessing about CNC > machine wiring. > In an attempt to break the cycle I went on eBay and bought > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291551363807 > > In the cold light of day I think I made a mistake. Creative

Re: [Emc-users] Not as useful as I thought

2016-01-22 Thread andy pugh
On 22 January 2016 at 11:51, Erik Christiansen wrote: >> I wanted to control the two clutches and the brake on my lathe >> gearbox. These have a single wire to a brush (24V) and return via the >> machine frame. > > s/These have/These each have/? Yes. > There is a

Re: [Emc-users] Not as useful as I thought

2016-01-22 Thread Chris Radek
On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 09:28:12AM -0600, John Thornton wrote: > Can you mix and match the modules on the OPTO22 board? Yes, however you want. -- Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance

Re: [Emc-users] Not as useful as I thought

2016-01-22 Thread andy pugh
On 22 January 2016 at 15:18, Gene Heskett wrote: > Was there not a high side switch like it available? I have not been able to find one. Which is a pity, as it's a neat, compact unit. Thanks for the other options, but I am in the UK so really need to source from the EU or

Re: [Emc-users] Not as useful as I thought

2016-01-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 22 January 2016 09:37:43 andy pugh wrote: > On 22 January 2016 at 14:25, John Thornton wrote: > > Do you need some kind of special base for the OPTO-22's? > > I don't particularly want to be soldering wires to the legs and > fastening them to the contol board with

Re: [Emc-users] Not as useful as I thought

2016-01-22 Thread andy pugh
On 22 January 2016 at 15:42, Gene Heskett wrote: >> I think that one of these will do the trick: >> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231742556113 > > Yup. But no post to US or I'd buy 2 on spec. You could try the .com option: http://www.ebay.com/itm/231742556113 The actual things

Re: [Emc-users] Not as useful as I thought

2016-01-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 22 January 2016 10:52:35 andy pugh wrote: > On 22 January 2016 at 15:42, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> I think that one of these will do the trick: > >> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231742556113 > > > > Yup. But no post to US or I'd buy 2 on spec. > > You could try the .com

Re: [Emc-users] Not as useful as I thought

2016-01-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 22 January 2016 10:52:35 andy pugh wrote: > On 22 January 2016 at 15:42, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> I think that one of these will do the trick: > >> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231742556113 > > > > Yup. But no post to US or I'd buy 2 on spec. > > You could try the .com

Re: [Emc-users] Not as useful as I thought

2016-01-22 Thread John Thornton
Do you need some kind of special base for the OPTO-22's? JT On 1/22/2016 8:06 AM, John Kasunich wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016, at 05:08 AM, andy pugh wrote: >> I was having trouble sleeping last night, I was obsessing about CNC >> machine wiring. >> In an attempt to break the cycle I went on

Re: [Emc-users] Not as useful as I thought

2016-01-22 Thread John Kasunich
On Fri, Jan 22, 2016, at 05:08 AM, andy pugh wrote: > I was having trouble sleeping last night, I was obsessing about CNC > machine wiring. > In an attempt to break the cycle I went on eBay and bought > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291551363807 > > In the cold light of day I think I made a

Re: [Emc-users] Not as useful as I thought

2016-01-22 Thread andy pugh
On 22 January 2016 at 13:26, Erik Christiansen wrote: > How expensive are three discrete DC SSRs, compared to the extra PS? Well, that's basically the question. I think I will end up putting the neat but useless device in the Box Of Potentially Useful Things and look for

Re: [Emc-users] Not as useful as I thought

2016-01-22 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 22.01.16 12:22, andy pugh wrote: > On 22 January 2016 at 11:51, Erik Christiansen > wrote: > >> I also don't think that it is particularly well suited to being driven > >> by the 7i84 outputs. > > > > If the 7i84 won't take 24v, then a transistor and two resistors,

Re: [Emc-users] Not as useful as I thought

2016-01-22 Thread andy pugh
On 22 January 2016 at 14:06, John Kasunich wrote: > Why not individual SSRs? > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/181975200040 I was wanting something with terminals that clips to DIN rail. Also, I like the individual telltale LEDs. There are many, many options. However many fail

Re: [Emc-users] Not as useful as I thought

2016-01-22 Thread Ralph Stirling
From: John Thornton [j...@gnipsel.com] Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 6:25 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Not as useful as I thought Do you need some kind of special base for the OPTO-22's? JT On 1/22/2016 8:06 AM, John Kasunich wrote

Re: [Emc-users] Not as useful as I thought

2016-01-22 Thread andy pugh
On 22 January 2016 at 14:25, John Thornton wrote: > Do you need some kind of special base for the OPTO-22's? I don't particularly want to be soldering wires to the legs and fastening them to the contol board with double-sided tape, no. I think that one of these will do the

Re: [Emc-users] Not as useful as I thought

2016-01-22 Thread John Kasunich
On Fri, Jan 22, 2016, at 09:25 AM, John Thornton wrote: > Do you need some kind of special base for the OPTO-22's? > > JT "Need" depends on how nice you want it to be. There are boards that you can plug the modules into, which provide terminal blocks for the field wiring and various

Re: [Emc-users] Not as useful as I thought

2016-01-22 Thread John Kasunich
On Fri, Jan 22, 2016, at 09:57 AM, John Kasunich wrote: > > The Mazak that we retrofitted at the CNC workshop years ago > had three 24-channel boards that handled all the I/O - toolchanger, > hydraulics, interlocks, limit and home switches, etc. It is a very > nice way to manage I/O. I knew

Re: [Emc-users] Not as useful as I thought

2016-01-22 Thread Dave Cole
little fuse for the output side. Prices vary wildly on ebay for > them, but there are lots of suppliers. > > -- Ralph > > From: John Thornton [j...@gnipsel.com] > Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 6:25 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Su

Re: [Emc-users] Not as useful as I thought

2016-01-22 Thread John Kasunich
On Fri, Jan 22, 2016, at 10:28 AM, John Thornton wrote: > Can you mix and match the modules on the OPTO22 board? > Yep. DC input, DC output, AC input, AC output. Configurable on a channel-by-channel basis. The Mazak had a LOT of I/O. For example the spindle gearbox had two solenoid

Re: [Emc-users] Not as useful as I thought

2016-01-22 Thread Chris Radek
On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 10:03:55AM -0500, John Kasunich wrote: > > I knew this photo was out there somewhere, thanks google: > http://fenn.freeshell.org/retrofest/dcp_0366.jpg > > You can see the I/O boards on both sides of Dave Engvall's head. I used similar in my vmc:

Re: [Emc-users] Not as useful as I thought

2016-01-22 Thread sam sokolik
I have used a combination of cards... http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/All_i-o.JPG http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/DSCF1184.JPG On 1/22/2016 9:43 AM, Chris Radek wrote: > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 09:28:12AM -0600, John Thornton wrote: >> Can you mix and match

Re: [Emc-users] Not as useful as I thought

2016-01-22 Thread andy pugh
On 22 January 2016 at 15:42, Chris Radek wrote: > http://timeguy.com/cradek-files/emc/2011-07-14_21-39-26_272.jpg > > Yes they just plug in to the mesa board. I love that there is an > LED on each one, and I just wrote with pencil on the top to say what > it does. While we

Re: [Emc-users] Not as useful as I thought

2016-01-22 Thread Dave Cole
Hey, I was there! :-) I was not a EMC2 convert at the time but I talked to a bunch of you guys as you were working on the machine. It was sort of running at the time.I think I was there the second year you guys were working on it. Dave On 1/22/2016 10:03 AM, John Kasunich wrote: > > On

Re: [Emc-users] Not as useful as I thought

2016-01-22 Thread sam sokolik
We use these and they plug an play right into mesa 50 pin plugs.. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Opto22-G4PB24-G4-digital-24-channel-I-O-Module-Rack-used-in-Tech-Lab-only-/221797137044?hash=item33a423ba94:g:dNAAAOSweW5Vdxtc sam On 1/22/2016 9:03 AM, John Kasunich wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016, at