Re: [Emc-users] Trying to understand EMC's operation

2011-07-30 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:53:57 -0400, you wrote: I loaded this into a 2.4 system that I use to test Gcode. It ran just like my other programs run.This system is not hooked up to any motors at the moment, but I don't see anything abnormal. Does the velocity shown on the display drop off when

Re: [Emc-users] Trying to understand EMC's operation

2011-07-30 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, July 30, 2011 11:21:40 AM Steve Blackmore did opine: On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:31:49 -0500, you wrote: All, I have a dual boot computer configured with both Windows/Mach and Linux/EMC2.4.6. I ran Steve's code on both systems and the problem that he describes is evident when

Re: [Emc-users] Trying to understand EMC's operation

2011-07-30 Thread Jon Elson
Steve Blackmore wrote: Thanks for testing - Looks like you found it, it does appear to be some trajectory planner bug on transition from lines to curves/curves to lines. I tested the code on some mdf, I'm glad it was only a test and not an expensive piece of wood, the cutter left burn

Re: [Emc-users] Trying to understand EMC's operation

2011-07-30 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 11:12:54 -0500, you wrote: Steve Blackmore wrote: Thanks for testing - Looks like you found it, it does appear to be some trajectory planner bug on transition from lines to curves/curves to lines. I tested the code on some mdf, I'm glad it was only a test and not an

Re: [Emc-users] Trying to understand EMC's operation

2011-07-30 Thread samco
I remember that the developers at one point changed the way g64px.xxx worked so that it actually converted arcs to short line segments so the combining of line segments worked for the arcs also. but that is just a vauge recolection. sam On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 19:12:52 +0100 Steve Blackmore

Re: [Emc-users] Trying to understand EMC's operation

2011-07-30 Thread Jon Elson
Steve Blackmore wrote: Further testing would be helpful to see if it's only stepper systems or that servo systems see the same slow downs. The burning problem is because the spindle speed and feed are optimised for cutting at 3200 mm/min as per cutter manufacturers spec. (It's an 8mm

Re: [Emc-users] Trying to understand EMC's operation

2011-07-30 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 13:30:25 -0500, you wrote: I remember that the developers at one point changed the way g64px.xxx worked so that it actually converted arcs to short line segments so the combining of line segments worked for the arcs also. but that is just a vauge recolection. An odd

Re: [Emc-users] Trying to understand EMC's operation

2011-07-29 Thread Dave
Steve, I loaded this into a 2.4 system that I use to test Gcode. It ran just like my other programs run.This system is not hooked up to any motors at the moment, but I don't see anything abnormal. Does the velocity shown on the display drop off when it almost stops at the end of each

Re: [Emc-users] Trying to understand EMC's operation

2011-07-29 Thread Daniel Rogge
All, I have a dual boot computer configured with both Windows/Mach and Linux/EMC2.4.6. I ran Steve's code on both systems and the problem that he describes is evident when running the code on EMC, but not on Mach. To answer Jon's question: Does it start out running well, but then the

Re: [Emc-users] Trying to understand EMC's operation

2011-07-28 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:05:48 -0500, you wrote: maybe a short sample of gcode that you see causing problems? Here you go Sam Code only gets smooth when line N190 G64 P0.5 half a mm is way too far off, especially when Mach seems to be able to do easily it at 0.1mm deviation, which I can live

Re: [Emc-users] Trying to understand EMC's operation

2011-07-27 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 20:50:59 -0500, you wrote: I do not think anything had changed between 2.3 and 2.4... I can try to explain how I understand it. Emc only takes into account the next line segment when blending moves. Strait g64 tries to go as fast as it can while still touching every line

Re: [Emc-users] Trying to understand EMC's operation

2011-07-27 Thread Jon Elson
Steve Blackmore wrote: Hi Sam - it's set to 600, tried more but it didn't help. It was accelerating and decelerating faster, but still almost coming to a stop before next move. Does it start out running well, but then the slowdown develops later in the part program? It could be queue

Re: [Emc-users] Trying to understand EMC's operation

2011-07-26 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 03:02:35 +0100, you wrote: See http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/emcinfo.pl?TrajectoryControl for explanation As discussed on the page you can use the exact path mode so it goes to the full extents. but it probably means your acceleration times need looking at. Hi Dave, I came across

Re: [Emc-users] Trying to understand EMC's operation

2011-07-26 Thread sam sokolik
I do not think anything had changed between 2.3 and 2.4... I can try to explain how I understand it. Emc only takes into account the next line segment when blending moves. Strait g64 tries to go as fast as it can while still touching every line segment. G64Px. combines sections of line

Re: [Emc-users] Trying to understand EMC's operation

2011-07-26 Thread Dave
On 7/26/2011 6:11 PM, Steve Blackmore wrote: On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 03:02:35 +0100, you wrote: See http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/emcinfo.pl?TrajectoryControl for explanation As discussed on the page you can use the exact path mode so it goes to the full extents. but it probably means your

[Emc-users] Trying to understand EMC's operation

2011-07-25 Thread Neil
Hi all, We were diagnosing a Z-axis missing-steps issue, and noticed something interesting ... in the midst of this, we wrote some quick G-code to cycle the Z-axis up and down 10 times, and noticed that as we increased the speed, the Z-axis did not actually travel all the way to the top

Re: [Emc-users] Trying to understand EMC's operation

2011-07-25 Thread Dave Caroline
See http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/emcinfo.pl?TrajectoryControl for explanation As discussed on the page you can use the exact path mode so it goes to the full extents. but it probably means your acceleration times need looking at. Dave Caroline On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 2:53 AM, Neil