Re: [Emc-users] VFD Speed Input

2011-10-02 Thread Kirk Wallace
In case anyone might be interested, I posted my current version of PWM to VFD setup on the wiki here: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?VFD_Digital/Analog_Interface Any comments, corrections, improvements are welcomed. -- Kirk Wallace http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/

Re: [Emc-users] VFD Speed Input

2011-10-02 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 12:14 +0100, andy pugh wrote: ... snip I have an idea for a way to use a second opto to discharge the cap through the same resistor during the low portion of the PWM, which should be linear at all frequencies, but have never bothered trying it. After having more

Re: [Emc-users] VFD Speed Input

2011-10-02 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, October 02, 2011 12:37:01 PM Kirk Wallace did opine: On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 12:14 +0100, andy pugh wrote: ... snip I have an idea for a way to use a second opto to discharge the cap through the same resistor during the low portion of the PWM, which should be linear at all

Re: [Emc-users] VFD Speed Input

2011-10-02 Thread cogoman
On 10/02/2011 01:38 PM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: After having more experience with getting my PWM to VFD input working, it comes to my mind that what is behind the VFD input is an ADC, which I think takes a snap shot (sample/hold) at a frequency. I seem to recall one VFD

Re: [Emc-users] VFD Speed Input

2011-10-01 Thread andy pugh
On 1 October 2011 05:57, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com wrote: Thanks for all of the replies. I think I solved it by tying the input to the control common with a resistor and capacitor as shown in the attached file. A leaky bucket filter, I think. The usual input circuit is a

Re: [Emc-users] VFD Speed Input

2011-10-01 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, October 01, 2011 07:20:28 AM andy pugh did opine: On 1 October 2011 05:57, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com wrote: Thanks for all of the replies. I think I solved it by tying the input to the control common with a resistor and capacitor as shown in the attached file.

Re: [Emc-users] VFD Speed Input

2011-10-01 Thread Dave
That is pretty slick. I thought you were trying to drive a PWM input on the drive, not an analog input. I think you should definitely put that on the wiki someplace. On 10/1/2011 12:57 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: Thanks for all of the replies. I think I solved it by tying the input to the

Re: [Emc-users] VFD Speed Input

2011-09-30 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Fri, 2011-09-30 at 10:17 +0100, andy pugh wrote: ... snip I am not clear what you have here. Are you connecting the Opto output direct to the speed control pin? Or do you have an RC network that you haven't mentioned? I have a direct connection. See attachment. I figured the VFD has it's

Re: [Emc-users] VFD Speed Input

2011-09-30 Thread Dave
On 9/29/2011 9:24 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: I'm trying to get my Shizuoka going after being idle during the Summer. Some of the parts had fallen off. So, in putting it back together I attended to an issue that bothered me from before. The SPI DAC I use to feed the 0-10 V input to the spindle VFD

Re: [Emc-users] VFD Speed Input

2011-09-30 Thread Kirk Wallace
Thanks for all of the replies. I think I solved it by tying the input to the control common with a resistor and capacitor as shown in the attached file. I guessed with a 10uF electrolytic and adjusted the resistor, about 700 Ohms, to get 100% RPM at close to 100% duty. It works very well, so far.

[Emc-users] VFD Speed Input

2011-09-29 Thread Kirk Wallace
I'm trying to get my Shizuoka going after being idle during the Summer. Some of the parts had fallen off. So, in putting it back together I attended to an issue that bothered me from before. The SPI DAC I use to feed the 0-10 V input to the spindle VFD wanders a bit and is enough to notice the

Re: [Emc-users] VFD Speed Input

2011-09-29 Thread Karl Cunningham
On 09/29/2011 06:24 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: I'm trying to get my Shizuoka going after being idle during the Summer. Some of the parts had fallen off. So, in putting it back together I attended to an issue that bothered me from before. The SPI DAC I use to feed the 0-10 V input to the spindle

Re: [Emc-users] VFD Speed Input

2011-09-29 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Thu, 2011-09-29 at 20:44 -0700, Karl Cunningham wrote: ... snip The PWM output (duty cycle) is 0 to 1.0. Is it possible you're telling it to go from 0 to 10, and by the time it reaches 10% of full scale it's already at 1.0? The 10 volts is only between the opto and the VFD input, nothing