Re: [Emc-users] Cleaning Carbide Bits -plywood gue.

2017-04-13 Thread Greg Bernard
I use oven cleaner to clean carbide router bits and saw blades. Works great.  +++ "Anyone who believes exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist."         -Kenneth Boulding,

Re: [Emc-users] Cleaning Carbide Bits -plywood gue.

2017-04-13 Thread Chris Albertson
This is a common problem long before there were computers controlling the tools. I use 100% alcohol. But you can buy a solvent that is specially made for this from woodworking shops. http://www.rockler.com/rockler-pitch-resin-remover Either way, let the tool soak at LEAST over night. On

[Emc-users] Cleaning Carbide Bits -plywood gue.

2017-04-13 Thread craig
What is the best way to clean plywood glues off small carbide router bits? I use small carbide bits to work wood and sometimes plywood. Mostly smaller than 3mm(1/8 in) bits. Sometimes plywood glue melts onto the bits.Cleaning them is a problem. Suggestions? Craig

Re: [Emc-users] OT: analog to step/dir

2017-04-13 Thread Gregg Eshelman
Like this. Could remove the pot and switches to remote mount or connect to something else for control inputs. One switch is on/off, other is direction. Pot is speed control. http://www.ebay.com/itm/311203030663 On Thursday, April 13, 2017, 11:15:13 AM MDT, Jon Elson

Re: [Emc-users] Milling Aluminum.

2017-04-13 Thread Erik Friesen
Free use terms = <$100,000 per year. Non Free = you should be able to afford it. On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > Do test runs in wood or machinable wax or plastic. Could try spraying a > dry graphite film on the cutter. NAPA auto parts has spray

Re: [Emc-users] Milling Aluminum.

2017-04-13 Thread Gregg Eshelman
Do test runs in wood or machinable wax or plastic. Could try spraying a dry graphite film on the cutter. NAPA auto parts has spray cans of that. Don't mill the crappy aluminum alloy. On Thursday, April 13, 2017, 8:46:03 AM MDT, Todd Zuercher wrote:Here I go again. 

Re: [Emc-users] Milling Aluminum.

2017-04-13 Thread Todd Zuercher
No, I suck. I've said before, we're a wood working shop. Plasma cutters don't work real good on wood. ;-) Maybe a water jet or a big old laser. - Original Message - From: "andy pugh" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent:

Re: [Emc-users] Milling Aluminum.

2017-04-13 Thread andy pugh
On 13 April 2017 at 20:01, Todd Zuercher wrote: >> Maybe an excuse to buy a plasma cutter? > But it seems to be working decently now using a Vortex 5630 tool and a > trochoidlal cut path. You aren't very good at this are you :-) -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle

Re: [Emc-users] Milling Aluminum.

2017-04-13 Thread Todd Zuercher
- Original Message - > From: "andy pugh" > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 2:16:06 PM > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Milling Aluminum. > > On 13 April 2017 at 18:44, Todd

Re: [Emc-users] Milling Aluminum.

2017-04-13 Thread andy pugh
On 13 April 2017 at 18:44, Todd Zuercher wrote: > But I'm cutting out a 2ft x 3ft window. Maybe an excuse to buy a plasma cutter? (Google just told me that plasma is good for aluminium) -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium

Re: [Emc-users] Milling Aluminum.

2017-04-13 Thread Todd Zuercher
- Original Message - > From: "Jon Elson" > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 1:22:32 PM > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Milling Aluminum. > > On 04/13/2017 09:41 AM, Todd Zuercher wrote: > > Here

Re: [Emc-users] OT: analog to step/dir

2017-04-13 Thread Chris Albertson
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Jon Elson wrote: > ...he wants a device that puts out > step/direction in response to analog input. > I assume to take analog velocity command from some > controller and drive a stepper motor. This is a job for the smallest/cheapest

Re: [Emc-users] Milling Aluminum.

2017-04-13 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/13/2017 10:19 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: > On 04/13/2017 08:04 AM, andy pugh wrote: >> On 13 April 2017 at 15:41, Todd Zuercher >> wrote: >>> Suggestions on where I should go from here? >> Download Fusion360 and get a real trochoidal milling path.

Re: [Emc-users] Milling Aluminum.

2017-04-13 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/13/2017 09:41 AM, Todd Zuercher wrote: > Here I go again. Unfortunately, the aluminum jig was a big hit, and now they > want more. So I thought I'd take a crack at a trochoirdal milling path. My > first try gave mixed results. Looking for advice. > My CAM software still doesn't have a

Re: [Emc-users] OT: analog to step/dir

2017-04-13 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/13/2017 05:39 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 13 April 2017 at 01:53, Eric Keller wrote: >>USDigital used to have something called an >> "EPOT" but they got rid of it for some reason. > https://tinyurl.com/ke75fzx any good? > No, not a digital pot, he wants a device that

Re: [Emc-users] excedrin headache number is an integer overflow

2017-04-13 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/12/2017 09:08 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Took a while, but I found one, and the bearings are on page 119. Amazon > sent me B-1412-OH;PB;L125's which are 1.125" OD, when the x-ref should > have pointed at a BH-1412-OH;PB;L125, which is the correct 1.1875" OD. Ugh, hate companies that have

Re: [Emc-users] Milling Aluminum.

2017-04-13 Thread Todd Zuercher
The higher chip load is a step in the right direction, but without lube it isn't enough. Bit broke after about 1.5" of cutting, but it's flutes weren't jammed full of welded swarf this time. I switched to the O-flute bit, and that seems to be the ticket. Single flute @14000rpm and 80ipm.

Re: [Emc-users] Milling Aluminum.

2017-04-13 Thread Jim Craig
Yea I thought your recipe looked pretty good. I think the missing ingredients are lube and chip evacuation. My steps below are my basic guideline for setting up a cutter for aluminum with HSM paths. I have not broke a cutter while using those guidelines and flood coolant since I started using

Re: [Emc-users] Milling Aluminum.

2017-04-13 Thread Todd Zuercher
Well, my machine is going as fast as it can all the time for these small loopy moves. (acceleration limited) Afraid how those moves are generated is going to make a difference. - Original Message - From: "andy pugh" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"

Re: [Emc-users] Milling Aluminum.

2017-04-13 Thread Todd Zuercher
My material is only 1/4" thick, so more tool engagement is not an option. I ran a test with 1/2" circles (1/4" loops for the tool center) and the feed rate increased to 80ipm. I also decreased the step to 0.025". The results were about the same. With the 80ipm @18000 and the 2 flute cutter

Re: [Emc-users] Milling Aluminum.

2017-04-13 Thread andy pugh
On 13 April 2017 at 16:19, Todd Zuercher wrote: > Is what I did really all that different from a "real" trochoidal path? > https://pastebin.com/nbQ1AKia. Well, the "real" paths move at a higher speed during the non-engagement moves. -- atp "A

Re: [Emc-users] Milling Aluminum.

2017-04-13 Thread Jim Craig
Lube is your friend. I try not to do any aluminum cutting without lubrication. I think your air blast and lube will get you a long way towards better tool life. What is the overall thickness you are cutting? If it is more than 1/4" I would recommend using the full cutting length of the cutter

Re: [Emc-users] Milling Aluminum.

2017-04-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 13 April 2017 10:41:37 Todd Zuercher wrote: > Here I go again. Unfortunately, the aluminum jig was a big hit, and > now they want more. So I thought I'd take a crack at a trochoirdal > milling path. My first try gave mixed results. Looking for advice. > My CAM software still

Re: [Emc-users] Milling Aluminum.

2017-04-13 Thread Todd Zuercher
I may yet do that, but then I'd have to learn how to use it... and technically this doesn't fall under their "free use" terms. Is what I did really all that different from a "real" trochoidal path? https://pastebin.com/nbQ1AKia. - Original Message - From: "andy pugh"

Re: [Emc-users] Milling Aluminum.

2017-04-13 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 04/13/2017 08:04 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 13 April 2017 at 15:41, Todd Zuercher > wrote: >> Suggestions on where I should go from here? > > Download Fusion360 and get a real trochoidal milling path. > It should not be terribly hard to write a

Re: [Emc-users] OT: analog to step/dir

2017-04-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 13 April 2017 08:47:26 Eric Keller wrote: > On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 8:29 AM, andy pugh wrote: > > On 13 April 2017 at 13:07, Eric Keller wrote: > > > I have a data acquisition device that only puts out analog > > > voltages. > > > > It sounds

Re: [Emc-users] Milling Aluminum.

2017-04-13 Thread andy pugh
On 13 April 2017 at 15:41, Todd Zuercher wrote: > Suggestions on where I should go from here? Download Fusion360 and get a real trochoidal milling path. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the

Re: [Emc-users] OT: analog to step/dir

2017-04-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 13 April 2017 08:07:16 Eric Keller wrote: > On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 2:43 AM, Dave Caroline > > > wrote: > > You could get an analogue in connected to stepgen.N.position-cmd to > > do this with any scaling needed. What is the use case? > > I have a data

Re: [Emc-users] Milling Aluminum.

2017-04-13 Thread Todd Zuercher
Here I go again. Unfortunately, the aluminum jig was a big hit, and now they want more. So I thought I'd take a crack at a trochoirdal milling path. My first try gave mixed results. Looking for advice. My CAM software still doesn't have a trochoirdal option, so a faked it with a line of

Re: [Emc-users] OT: analog to step/dir

2017-04-13 Thread Eric Keller
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 8:29 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 13 April 2017 at 13:07, Eric Keller wrote: > > I have a data acquisition device that only puts out analog voltages. > > It sounds like almost any motor would be easier to control in this > application

Re: [Emc-users] OT: analog to step/dir

2017-04-13 Thread andy pugh
On 13 April 2017 at 13:07, Eric Keller wrote: > I have a data acquisition device that only puts out analog voltages. It sounds like almost any motor would be easier to control in this application than a stepper motor. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium

Re: [Emc-users] OT: analog to step/dir

2017-04-13 Thread Eric Keller
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 2:43 AM, Dave Caroline wrote: > You could get an analogue in connected to stepgen.N.position-cmd to do this > with any scaling needed. What is the use case? > I have a data acquisition device that only puts out analog voltages. I want to

Re: [Emc-users] OT: analog to step/dir

2017-04-13 Thread andy pugh
On 13 April 2017 at 01:53, Eric Keller wrote: > USDigital used to have something called an > "EPOT" but they got rid of it for some reason. https://tinyurl.com/ke75fzx any good? -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial

Re: [Emc-users] mesa setup

2017-04-13 Thread Valerio Bellizzomi
On Thu, 2017-04-13 at 07:04 +, giorgio foga wrote: > Ciao Valerio, > > > It is a new machine or used? it is a new machine, > Because actually the emergency law (uni - direttiva macchine) talk about 4 > level of emergency ... in one of these levels we talk specifically about > enable.

Re: [Emc-users] mesa setup

2017-04-13 Thread giorgio foga
Ciao Valerio, It is a new machine or used? Because actually the emergency law (uni - direttiva macchine) talk about 4 level of emergency ... in one of these levels we talk specifically about enable. In any case by the law yuo're making a new machinery, did you know that? In UE retrofit

Re: [Emc-users] OT: analog to step/dir

2017-04-13 Thread Dave Caroline
You could get an analogue in connected to stepgen.N.position-cmd to do this with any scaling needed. What is the use case? Dave Caroline -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech