Re: [Emc-users] jerk control

2021-08-17 Thread Scott Harwell via Emc-users
I haven't tried it yet, but this looks promising. LinuxCNC S-Curve Accelerations Scott H On Tuesday, August 17, 2021, 12:57:06 PM CDT, Ralph Stirling wrote: I've also been hoping to see this appear in a Linuxcnc update, as it has been worked on by a number of people for years.

Re: [Emc-users] jerk control

2021-08-17 Thread Ralph Stirling
I've also been hoping to see this appear in a Linuxcnc update, as it has been worked on by a number of people for years. Here are the most recent threads about jerk-limited trajectory planning: https://forum.linuxcnc.org/24-hal-components/40152-jerk-limited-trajectory-planner-hal-component

Re: [Emc-users] jerk control

2021-08-17 Thread David Berndt
I don't have a great need for it with my machines, or the time/brains to implement it. It just seems like a feature we really should have. I'd be willing to participate monetarily in some sort of system to incentivize the inclusion of jerk control. Perhaps an open-source feature bounty?

Re: [Emc-users] jerk control

2021-08-17 Thread Rob C
tormach did something to the planner, does anyone know what they paid for it, and how / who they commissioned to do it? On Tue, 17 Aug 2021, 18:57 Ralph Stirling, wrote: > I've also been hoping to see this appear in a Linuxcnc update, > as it has been worked on by a number of people for years.

Re: [Emc-users] jerk control

2021-08-17 Thread Sam Sokolik
I am going to ask a stuid question.. If you have a velocity run step gen with pid. Couldn't you hook a limit3 between the pid and steghen. Because the input is velocity instead of position - wouldn't the acceleration limit in the limit3 be jerk instead of acceleration? I am sure it doesn't

Re: [Emc-users] jerk control

2021-08-17 Thread Sam Sokolik
Default is 50... These are what can be tweeked in the tp.. http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.8/html/config/ini-config.html#sec:traj-section On Tue, Aug 17, 2021, 8:49 PM Feral Engineer wrote: > I'm curious what the current level of block lookahead is on lcnc compared > to commercial controls.

Re: [Emc-users] jerk control

2021-08-17 Thread andrew beck
Not sure Sam. I have a 7i77 on this mill though also. So analog control On Wed, Aug 18, 2021, 12:51 PM Sam Sokolik wrote: > I am going to ask a stuid question.. If you have a velocity run step gen > with pid. Couldn't you hook a limit3 between the pid and steghen. > Because the input is

Re: [Emc-users] jerk control

2021-08-17 Thread Sam Sokolik
It would be the same setup... Just using servo amps.. Velocity out of the pid - position back from the encoders. On Tue, Aug 17, 2021, 8:14 PM andrew beck wrote: > Not sure Sam. > > I have a 7i77 on this mill though also. So analog control > > On Wed, Aug 18, 2021, 12:51 PM Sam Sokolik

Re: [Emc-users] jerk control

2021-08-17 Thread andrew beck
Well if anyone has some time examples on how this would work I can make a test config on my machine On Wed, Aug 18, 2021, 1:36 PM Sam Sokolik wrote: > It would be the same setup... Just using servo amps.. Velocity out of > the pid - position back from the encoders. > > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021,

Re: [Emc-users] jerk control

2021-08-17 Thread andrew beck
I think 250 lines a head rings a bell On Wed, Aug 18, 2021, 1:49 PM Feral Engineer wrote: > I'm curious what the current level of block lookahead is on lcnc compared > to commercial controls. Anyone know the amount of data buffering that it > can handle? > > Phil T. > The Feral Engineer > >

Re: [Emc-users] jerk control

2021-08-17 Thread John Dammeyer
This is what we're talking about right? Ramping acceleration? https://www.mmsonline.com/articles/understanding-jerk-control John > -Original Message- > From: Feral Engineer [mailto:theferalengin...@gmail.com] > Sent: August-17-21 6:46 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) >

Re: [Emc-users] jerk control

2021-08-17 Thread Feral Engineer
I'm curious what the current level of block lookahead is on lcnc compared to commercial controls. Anyone know the amount of data buffering that it can handle? Phil T. The Feral Engineer Check out my LinuxCNC tutorials, machine builds and other antics at www.youtube.com/c/theferalengineer Help

Re: [Emc-users] jerk control

2021-08-17 Thread andrew beck
Here is the text from your link sam Ramped velocity in this case just means constant acceleration over the whole segment. This is less optimal than a trapezoidal velocity profile, since the acceleration is not maximized. However, if the segment is short enough, there isn’t enough time to