Re: [Emc-users] EMC list meta info

2008-04-16 Thread Gary Fixler
That looks like a good one, and well trafficked. I'll add it to my to-lurk list for now, and join in when I have some questions. Thanks! -g On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 4:46 AM, John Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I get real good info from practical machinest http://www.practicalmachinist.com

Re: [Emc-users] EMC list meta info

2008-04-16 Thread Gary Fixler
I've tried to get into IRC a few times with poor results. I think I just haven't figured out exactly how it works, but it seems to be a last, great stronghold of the knowledgeable populace. I should give it another go. See you on the other side, and thanks! -g On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 5:16 AM,

Re: [Emc-users] EMC list meta info

2008-04-16 Thread Gary Fixler
Funny, I use Pan 2 to surf newsgroups often, and never considered there might be a good machining group. I'll add it to my subscriptions, and lurk. Back when I was getting into Flash Actionscript coding, I joined alt.macromedia.flash, and quickly learned most of everything ever talked about in

Re: [Emc-users] Bandit Steppers

2008-04-16 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 08:42:44PM -0700, Kirk Wallace wrote: The motors are not labeled and I don't know how to determine the steps per revolution. ... I suppose I can add an index disk and sensor. Is that perhaps a simple way to determine the steps per revolution? (Count the steps fed to

Re: [Emc-users] Bandit Steppers

2008-04-16 Thread RogerN
If I remember correctly, the Quadrature signals will let the control step a motor twice as fast as step and direction. It might be worth a try before replacing your drives. Roger Neal [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Kirk Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Enhanced Machine

Re: [Emc-users] new to CNC

2008-04-16 Thread John Thornton
There are some G-Code generators for simple things over at the EMC wiki site... John On 15 Apr 2008 at 14:04, Marc Koch wrote: Hi, I'm following this very interesting group for a while now. In the meantime I build a plywood router and I played around with the hobbyCNC board connected to

Re: [Emc-users] best cnc tool-holder system

2008-04-16 Thread Ron Ginger
I also use the Tormach system and like it a lot. My Jet knee mill was converted to move the table instead of the quill for Z. That leaves the quill free for hand drilling, but also lets me make a real quick switch on the tool holder. I installed the drawbar with a short but stiff spring under

Re: [Emc-users] Bandit Steppers

2008-04-16 Thread Andre' Blanchard
At 10:42 PM 4/15/2008, you wrote: I am losing patience with the Bandit on my Shizuoka mill, so I am thinking of converting to EMC2 sooner than later. I would like to save the stepper drivers but they look like they might have a proprietary integration with the controller. The drives have four

Re: [Emc-users] new to CNC

2008-04-16 Thread Andrea Montefusco
John Thornton wrote: There are some G-Code generators for simple things over at the EMC wiki site... http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Simple_EMC_G-Code_Generators useful for simpler works without fireup the whole thing (CAD, CAM). For a (embrionic) open source CAM give a look at

Re: [Emc-users] Bandit Steppers

2008-04-16 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 17:23 +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 08:42:44PM -0700, Kirk Wallace wrote: The motors are not labeled and I don't know how to determine the steps per revolution. ... I suppose I can add an index disk and sensor. Is that perhaps a simple

Re: [Emc-users] Bandit Steppers

2008-04-16 Thread John Kasunich
Kirk Wallace wrote: Thanks for your reply, Erik. I was wondering if there was a way to figure out the steps per revolution with the motors disconnected, but it's probably not important, because I can adjust settings after I get the motors working. Although, it would be nice to know to figure

Re: [Emc-users] Bandit Steppers

2008-04-16 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 07:00 -0500, Andre' Blanchard wrote: ... snip Step direction to quadrature conversion can be done, not all that much of a circuit needed really. http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12066 __ Andre' B. Clear Lake, Wi. I tried to see what the driver

Re: [Emc-users] brushless motors

2008-04-16 Thread Jon Elson
John Kasunich wrote: Jon Elson wrote: Peter C. Wallace wrote: If you are just driving a bare motor, try raising your sampling rate... Geez, the resonance seems to be about 40 Hz, my sampling rate is already 1 KHz, 25 X higher. But, yes, I can go to at least 5 KHz and see what happens. Jon

Re: [Emc-users] Bandit Steppers

2008-04-16 Thread Jon Elson
Kirk Wallace wrote: I am losing patience with the Bandit on my Shizuoka mill, so I am thinking of converting to EMC2 sooner than later. I would like to save the stepper drivers but they look like they might have a proprietary integration with the controller. The drives have four inputs that

Re: [Emc-users] brushless motors

2008-04-16 Thread Jon Elson
Peter C. Wallace wrote: Also you mentioned that you had some cogging. Is the resonance something that happens statically or only when moving at certain velocities? Is it possible that you have some non-linearity or even hysteresis in you drive - torque curve? The first large motor I

Re: [Emc-users] brushless motors

2008-04-16 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008, Jon Elson wrote: Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:17:10 -0500 From: Jon Elson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users]

[Emc-users] Installation of emc2.2

2008-04-16 Thread Craig Muller
Hi All I Previously had emc installed via the BDI I have recently tried to upgrade to emc2,2 . I downloaded the ISO and cut it to a disc seemingly without a hiccup. I can boot my machine using the live cd however when I try to install the software the installation hangs at step 3 (Keyboard

Re: [Emc-users] Bandit Steppers

2008-04-16 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 12:27 -0400, John Kasunich wrote: Kirk Wallace wrote: Thanks for your reply, Erik. I was wondering if there was a way to figure out the steps per revolution with the motors disconnected, but it's probably not important, because I can adjust settings after I get

Re: [Emc-users] Bandit Steppers

2008-04-16 Thread sam sokolik
If you actually have access to all 4 coils - then I would use types 9 or 10. This would be half stepping and give you 2000 steps per inch. (.0005 per step) 200*2*5. at a normal base period of 5 - you could get (without using doublestep) 300ipm easy. Not that your machine would actually

Re: [Emc-users] Installation of emc2.2

2008-04-16 Thread Chris Radek
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 09:11:48PM +0200, Craig Muller wrote: Hi All I Previously had emc installed via the BDI I have recently tried to upgrade to emc2,2 . I downloaded the ISO and cut it to a disc seemingly without a hiccup. I can boot my machine using the live cd however when I try

[Emc-users] Vital System Error

2008-04-16 Thread Glenn Stewart
Hello, I have loaded my box with Ubuntu and EMC2 following the instructions provided on the download page. I was able to get into the Sim config with no problems. I have a Vital Systems Motenc-lite board and when I pick the VTI config, I get the following error. Debug file information:

Re: [Emc-users] Bandit Steppers

2008-04-16 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 20:42 -0700, Kirk Wallace wrote: ... snip The drives have four inputs that appear to take in steps as quadrature signals plus their complements; QB, QA, /QB, /QA. QB ___|```|___|```|_ QA _|```|___|```|___ /QB ```|___|```|___|` /QA `|___|```|___|``` I scoped out

Re: [Emc-users] Bandit Steppers

2008-04-16 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 16:07 -0500, sam sokolik wrote: If you actually have access to all 4 coils - then I would use types 9 or 10. This would be half stepping and give you 2000 steps per inch. (.0005 per step) 200*2*5. at a normal base period of 5 - you could get (without using

Re: [Emc-users] Bandit Steppers

2008-04-16 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 16:14 -0700, Kirk Wallace wrote: On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 20:42 -0700, Kirk Wallace wrote: ... snip I am wondering if this is just a simple H-bridge with current limit? If anyone has more information on this drive, I would appreciate hearing it. Looking more closely at

[Emc-users] My runaway A axis problem.

2008-04-16 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings guys; I edited the ini file and slowed the A axis down to 10%, or maxvel=7.2, with corresponding slowdowns in the accel's too. and I added another 9 in front of its limits so it can now turn 99,999 degrees. Then I re-figured the cut for a .003 per A revolution, giving 61,200 degrees

Re: [Emc-users] Vital System Error

2008-04-16 Thread Eric H. Johnson
Glenn, The VTI configuration is for the Vigilant Technologies Inc (Vigilant Products) board. I believe you will find the Vital systems configuration under motenc. Regards, Eric I have loaded my box with Ubuntu and EMC2 following the instructions provided on the download page. I was able to

Re: [Emc-users] Bandit Steppers

2008-04-16 Thread John Kasunich
Kirk Wallace wrote: On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 16:14 -0700, Kirk Wallace wrote: On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 20:42 -0700, Kirk Wallace wrote: ... snip I am wondering if this is just a simple H-bridge with current limit? If anyone has more information on this drive, I would appreciate hearing it.

Re: [Emc-users] My runaway A axis problem.

2008-04-16 Thread John Kasunich
Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings guys; I edited the ini file and slowed the A axis down to 10%, or maxvel=7.2, with corresponding slowdowns in the accel's too. and I added another 9 in front of its limits so it can now turn 99,999 degrees. Then I re-figured the cut for a .003 per A

Re: [Emc-users] My runaway A axis problem.

2008-04-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 16 April 2008, John Kasunich wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings guys; I edited the ini file and slowed the A axis down to 10%, or maxvel=7.2, with corresponding slowdowns in the accel's too. and I added another 9 in front of its limits so it can now turn 99,999 degrees. Then

Re: [Emc-users] My runaway A axis problem.

2008-04-16 Thread John Kasunich
Gene Heskett wrote: I didn't time it John, but that sounds about right. I was up to my buns in a different pool of alligators, the inner filament contact for a final tube in a tv transmitter had left it running itself while I went looking for some silver braze rod. The only thing I

Re: [Emc-users] Installation of emc2.2

2008-04-16 Thread Jon Elson
Craig Muller wrote: Hi All I Previously had emc installed via the BDI I have recently tried to upgrade to emc2,2 . I downloaded the ISO and cut it to a disc seemingly without a hiccup. I can boot my machine using the live cd however when I try to install the software the

Re: [Emc-users] My runaway A axis problem.

2008-04-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 16 April 2008, John Kasunich wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: I didn't time it John, but that sounds about right. I was up to my buns in a different pool of alligators, the inner filament contact for a final tube in a tv transmitter had left it running itself while I went looking for

Re: [Emc-users] Bandit Steppers

2008-04-16 Thread Jon Elson
Kirk Wallace wrote: The IA and IB sink the LED's on two optocoupler inputs each. The high side of the LED's is driven by the Q and /Q quadrature signals. I am guessing this forms a NAND function or an Inhibit? I wonder if the inhibits are needed to prevent shoot-through? If that is the case