Re: [Emc-users] parsing the current language dialect, and describing as EBNF

2012-02-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 February 2012 04:35, Erik Christiansen dva...@internode.on.net wrote: Granted, if I had them ingrained in my brain, after decades of use, I would not change either. There is no reason to. An optional input filter only provides flexibility to anyone wanting more. The filter I'm playing

Re: [Emc-users] AXIS default jog speed on A-axis

2012-02-06 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/2/5 Lars Andersson l...@larsandersson.com: Thanks Gene, change in [TRAJ] was the cure. From your post: [AXIS_3] TYPE = ANGULAR HOME = 0.0 MAX_VELOCITY = 30.0 MAX_ACCELERATION = 200.0 STEPGEN_MAXACCEL = 300.0 Not immediately obvious, why is MAX_VELOCITY used here, not

Re: [Emc-users] Docs clarification needed.

2012-02-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 February 2012 05:54, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Obviously I have to use G92 to install the Z offset that compensates for the drill length, that is unavoidable from my reading.  I have no lengths in my tool table since I'm using a drill chuck, making those lengths arbitrary and

Re: [Emc-users] Non-Contact limit switch issues.

2012-02-06 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, February 06, 2012 03:05:26 AM Kirk Wallace did opine: On Mon, 2012-02-06 at 05:08 +, N. Christopher Perry wrote: Thanks Kirk, I did as you suggested, and while I was at it I measured the series current when shortedï»؟ and found that it was ~2mA. My pulldowns were in

Re: [Emc-users] Docs clarification needed.

2012-02-06 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, February 06, 2012 03:25:49 AM andy pugh did opine: On 6 February 2012 05:54, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Obviously I have to use G92 to install the Z offset that compensates for the drill length, that is unavoidable from my reading. I have no lengths in my tool table

Re: [Emc-users] Docs clarification needed.

2012-02-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 February 2012 12:40, Erik Christiansen dva...@internode.on.net wrote: Gene, remembering your post about distaste for the tool table, Andy's opening sentence might put you off what seems a good suggestion, further down. Perhaps I should have been more clear that I was talking about the

Re: [Emc-users] Control board

2012-02-06 Thread Greg Bernard
Jon Elson's Universal Stepper Controller will take care of the encoders for you: http://pico-systems.com/univstep.html. Many devices including the very inexpensive Teensy board can manage the HID. From: Erik Friesen e...@aercon.net To: Enhanced Machine

Re: [Emc-users] Control board

2012-02-06 Thread Erik Friesen
I have been looking pretty close at the pico systems board, however, as of yet I am not clear how to integrate spindle amps monitoring with it. I also want to monitor vaccum for a holddown system. On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Greg Bernard yankeelena2...@yahoo.comwrote: Jon Elson's Universal

Re: [Emc-users] New dialects [Was: Parsing the current language dialect, and describing as BNF.]

2012-02-06 Thread dave
On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 13:27:12 +0200 andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 February 2012 12:04, Erik Christiansen dva...@internode.on.net wrote: Though I haven't thought that one through with a lot of caffeine in the veins, I'm having trouble working out how to do it. The current LinuxCNC

Re: [Emc-users] Control board

2012-02-06 Thread Jon Elson
Erik Friesen wrote: I have been looking pretty close at the pico systems board, however, as of yet I am not clear how to integrate spindle amps monitoring with it. I also want to monitor vaccum for a holddown system. You just want an overcurrent limit, or you want an analog measurement

Re: [Emc-users] Control board

2012-02-06 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Mon, 2012-02-06 at 07:32 -0500, Erik Friesen wrote: I am doing a bit of 3 axis cnc routing on pvc. I would like to set it and forget it while it runs. I have been thinking about building, or buying if available, something down this line. Parallel breakout for stepper drive. Microchip

Re: [Emc-users] Control board

2012-02-06 Thread Erik Friesen
I don't care about an analog measurement, I want the system to pause or park when amps are outside of a set range. How would you do the first scenario? On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: Erik Friesen wrote: I have been looking pretty close at the pico

Re: [Emc-users] Control board

2012-02-06 Thread Erik Friesen
I am not so sure about the parallel port and encoder idea though, the encoders I see are up to 1000 per rev, that requires a pretty fast base period to handle that, not? 2us ? I also am not very clear on emc2 capability to manage analog inputs, it seems easier to offload the deciding to an

Re: [Emc-users] Docs clarification needed.

2012-02-06 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, February 06, 2012 08:24:45 AM Erik Christiansen did opine: On 06.02.12 03:36, gene heskett wrote: On Monday, February 06, 2012 03:25:49 AM andy pugh did opine: I don't think that is obvious at all. In fact I think that G92 is the wrong way to do this, and the tool table is the

Re: [Emc-users] Classic ladder questions and comments

2012-02-06 Thread samco
here is a show... 5 float OUT 0 axis.0.motor-pos-cmd == Xpos-cmd 5 float IN 0 axis.0.motor-pos-fb == Xpos-fb 5 bit OUT FALSE axis.0.neg-hard-limit 5 bit IN FALSE axis.0.neg-lim-sw-in 5 bit OUT FALSE

Re: [Emc-users] Control board

2012-02-06 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Mon, 6 Feb 2012, Erik Friesen wrote: Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 12:23:00 -0500 From: Erik Friesen e...@aercon.net Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users]

[Emc-users] Control board

2012-02-06 Thread Roland Jollivet
On 6 February 2012 16:09, Erik Friesen e...@aercon.net wrote: I have been looking pretty close at the pico systems board, however, as of yet I am not clear how to integrate spindle amps monitoring with it. I also want to monitor vaccum for a holddown system. On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 9:02 AM,

Re: [Emc-users] Control board

2012-02-06 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Mon, 2012-02-06 at 12:29 -0500, Erik Friesen wrote: I am not so sure about the parallel port and encoder idea though, the encoders I see are up to 1000 per rev, that requires a pretty fast base period to handle that, not? 2us ? In reference to my reply, I suggested that using the parallel

Re: [Emc-users] AXIS default jog speed on A-axis

2012-02-06 Thread Lars Andersson
-Original Message- From: Viesturs Lācis [mailto:viesturs.la...@gmail.com] Sent: den 6 februari 2012 09:11 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] AXIS default jog speed on A-axis Not always [AXIS_3] joint is angular... And all the puma and scara robots have

Re: [Emc-users] AXIS default jog speed on A-axis

2012-02-06 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012. gada 6. februāris 21:15 Lars Andersson l...@larsandersson.com rakstīja: How can I make [AXIS_3] linear? [AXIS_3] TYPE = LINEAR It just does not make sense to me to treat extruder as another axis, whose velocity would determine the amount of extruded material, because the machine is

Re: [Emc-users] parsing the current language dialect, and describing as EBNF

2012-02-06 Thread John Prentice
From: andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 8:03 AM snip However I see no reason why we shouldn't consider starting from scratch with a new machine-control language, possibly based on Python syntax. I would prefer to see that

Re: [Emc-users] AXIS default jog speed on A-axis

2012-02-06 Thread Lars Andersson
-Original Message- From: Viesturs Lācis [mailto:viesturs.la...@gmail.com] Sent: den 6 februari 2012 20:40 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] AXIS default jog speed on A-axis 2012. gada 6. februāris 21:15 Lars Andersson l...@larsandersson.com rakstīja:

Re: [Emc-users] Control board

2012-02-06 Thread Erik Friesen
The mesa card looks interesting to me. The catch is, how is one going to go about doing spi and pulling the data into emc2? I assume everything would have to be bit banged, and is not taken care of in the fpga. It also says it has quadrature encoder interface, but once again, how is this

Re: [Emc-users] Control board

2012-02-06 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Mon, 6 Feb 2012, Erik Friesen wrote: Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 17:57:10 -0500 From: Erik Friesen e...@aercon.net Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users]

Re: [Emc-users] Control board

2012-02-06 Thread Erik Friesen
I feel like I'm fumbling a bit for information on the mesa cards. Is the firmware open source? How does one go about configuring the card? I have a bit of experience with embedded electronics, but working with this is a bit new to me. How configurable is the spi? On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 6:05

Re: [Emc-users] Classic ladder questions and comments

2012-02-06 Thread Chris Morley
On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 13:05:02 -0600 sam sokolik sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: All this talk of lowering the servo thread had me thinking back to when I was setting up the KT. I wanted to try to lower the servo thread for testing. I could not go much slower the the 1ms default

Re: [Emc-users] Control board

2012-02-06 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Mon, 6 Feb 2012, Erik Friesen wrote: Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 18:34:37 -0500 From: Erik Friesen e...@aercon.net Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users]

Re: [Emc-users] New dialects

2012-02-06 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 06.02.12 09:05, dave wrote: andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: So: G95 G96 G7 M3 S500 G1 X100 Z50 Might become: SpindleOn(mode=CSS, Speed=500) Feed(X=100, Z=50, mode=FeedPerRev) Did this just break coordinated feed? I must say the clarity is better but you must be COBOL

Re: [Emc-users] Classic ladder questions and comments

2012-02-06 Thread sam sokolik
Thanks for looking. (I am not that technical though..) The bit of ladder I have seems to be taking longer than 1ms though. (on this atom330 board) sam On 02/06/2012 06:02 PM, Chris Morley wrote: On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 13:05:02 -0600 sam sokoliksa...@empirescreen.com wrote: All this

Re: [Emc-users] Control board

2012-02-06 Thread Jon Elson
Erik Friesen wrote: I don't care about an analog measurement, I want the system to pause or park when amps are outside of a set range. How would you do the first scenario? Does your spindle drive provide an overcurrent signal? If it is a contact that opens on fault, you can just wire it

Re: [Emc-users] Control board

2012-02-06 Thread Jon Elson
Erik Friesen wrote: I am not so sure about the parallel port and encoder idea though, the encoders I see are up to 1000 per rev, that requires a pretty fast base period to handle that, not? 2us ? It all depends on the RPM. 1000 count/rev encoders would be fine with software conting at

Re: [Emc-users] AXIS default jog speed on A-axis

2012-02-06 Thread Jon Elson
Viesturs Lācis wrote: It just does not make sense to me to treat extruder as another axis, whose velocity would determine the amount of extruded material, because the machine is going to move the extruder along its coordinates at a given velocity, determined by F word in g-code. I do not see

Re: [Emc-users] Classic ladder questions and comments

2012-02-06 Thread Chris Morley
so on the first computer it scans at 135 useconds on a 1ms thread speed and you could actually set it to a .2us thread speed? on the second what is the scan time on a 1.1 ms thread speed? I'm a little confused. please clearly state the facts again and try to use the same unit so comparison is

Re: [Emc-users] Docs clarification needed.

2012-02-06 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, February 07, 2012 01:14:47 AM andy pugh did opine: On 6 February 2012 12:40, Erik Christiansen dva...@internode.on.net wrote: Gene, remembering your post about distaste for the tool table, Andy's opening sentence might put you off what seems a good suggestion, further down.

Re: [Emc-users] Docs clarification needed.

2012-02-06 Thread Greg Bernard
Gene- Precise Bits has a good selection of tiny drills and endmills:http://www.precisebits.com/products/carbidebits/drills.asp?tsPT=wire. These guys sell resharpened bits at an attractive price: http://drillcity.stores.yahoo.net/index.html . Also, I recently found an assortment of 10

Re: [Emc-users] New dialects

2012-02-06 Thread andy pugh
On 7 February 2012 05:34, Erik Christiansen dva...@internode.on.net wrote: let's have: Spindle On mode=CSS Speed=500 Now the same verb can take different arguments: Spindle Off So that the programmer is dealing with a _language_ with perceptible structure, not just a great big pile of