Re: [Emc-users] How to use Mesa 7i90HD ?
On 06/04/2014 04:39 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: This is the right way to do it. Except i gave you the wrong branch name, use hm2-7i90-3 instead. Thank you all. My last test result is the output of dmesg: [ 6966.289574] I-pipe: Domain RTAI registered. [ 6966.289588] RTAI[hal]: 3.8.1 mounted over IPIPE-NOTHREADS 2.6-03. [ 6966.289592] RTAI[hal]: compiled with gcc version 4.4.3 (Ubuntu 4.4.3-4ubuntu5) . [ 6966.289683] RTAI[hal]: mounted (IPIPE-NOTHREADS, IMMEDIATE (INTERNAL IRQs DISPATCHED), ISOL_CPUS_MASK: 0). [ 6966.289686] PIPELINE layers: [ 6966.289692] fa8d8e20 9ac15d93 RTAI 200 [ 6966.289696] c085cb20 0 Linux 100 [ 6966.322615] RTAI[malloc]: global heap size = 2097152 bytes, BSD. [ 6966.322863] RTAI[sched]: IMMEDIATE, MP, USER/KERNEL SPACE: with RTAI OWN KTASKs, kstacks pool size = 524288 bytes. [ 6966.322874] RTAI[sched]: hard timer type/freq = APIC/12477240(Hz); default timing: periodic; linear timed lists. [ 6966.322880] RTAI[sched]: Linux timer freq = 250 (Hz), TimeBase freq = 1597324000 hz. [ 6966.322885] RTAI[sched]: timer setup = 999 ns, resched latency = 2943 ns. [ 6966.323010] RTAI[usi]: enabled. [ 6966.395160] RTAI[math]: loaded. [ 6966.516574] hm2: loading Mesa HostMot2 driver version 0.15 [ 6966.523174] hm2_7i90: loading HostMot2 Mesa 7i90 driver version 0.3 [ 6966.523231] hm2_7i90.0: firmware: requesting hm2/7i90/epp_sv12.bit [ 6966.527270] hm2/hm2_7i90.0: board has FPGA '3s400tq144', but the firmware in hm2/7i90/epp_sv12.bit is for FPGA '6slx9tqg144' [ 6966.527290] hm2_7i90.0: board at (ioaddr=0x0378, ioaddr_hi=0x, epp_wide ON) not found! [ 6967.023488] hm2: unloading [ 6967.217308] RTAI[math]: unloaded. [ 6967.263783] SCHED releases registered named ALIEN RTGLBH [ 6967.292358] RTAI[malloc]: unloaded. [ 6967.392019] RTAI[sched]: unloaded (forced hard/soft/hard transitions: traps 0, syscalls 0). [ 6967.395695] I-pipe: Domain RTAI unregistered. [ 6967.395811] RTAI[hal]: unmounted. -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Step motor in closed loop
Dear All, I'm back to get some help, I've tried to use my 2 phases 1.8° 12Nm stepmotor in closed loop on linuxcnc I have connected 600 lines encoder to get the feedback for my stone lathe. This encoder is connected directly to the back of the motor My driver is a leadshine MD2278 with a selector to set 400 step/rev (default) to 1 step/rev so it's possible to adjust the encoder resolution (2400pts/rev) to the encoder (2400 pulse/rev) I have tried to use the etch-servo config to control my step motor as servo motor When I tried to move the motor I have a fallowing error I have tried to change the parameters in the INI file but it doesn't really change My important axis is the A axis Can someone can give me help ? There are my config file I've removed the other axis because that will be same for the other axis : thanks a lot HAL # load realtime modules # kinematics loadrt trivkins loadrt [EMCMOT]EMCMOT base_period_nsec=[EMCMOT]BASE_PERIOD servo_period_nsec=[EMCMOT]SERVO_PERIOD num_joints=[TRAJ]AXES loadrt hal_parport cfg=0x378 out loadrt encoder num_chan=1 loadrt pid num_chan=1 loadrt pwmgen output_type=1 loadrt ddt count=2 loadrt constant count=1 # define the order of execution for RT code addf parport.0.read base-thread addf encoder.update-counters base-thread addf pwmgen.make-pulses base-thread addf parport.0.write base-thread addf encoder.capture-position servo-thread addf motion-command-handler servo-thread addf motion-controller servo-thread addf pid.0.do-pid-calcs servo-thread addf constant.0 servo-thread addf pwmgen.update servo-thread addf ddt.0 servo-thread addf ddt.1 servo-thread # hook stuff together newsig Apos-fb float setp encoder.0.position-scale [AXIS_3]INPUT_SCALE net enc0A encoder.0.phase-A = parport.0.pin-10-in net enc0B encoder.0.phase-B = parport.0.pin-11-in linksp Apos-fb = encoder.0.position newsig Avel-cmd float linksp Apos-fb = pid.0.feedback linksp Apos-fb = axis.3.motor-pos-fb linksp Avel-cmd = pid.0.output linksp Avel-cmd = pwmgen.0.value newsigApwm bit linkps pwmgen.0.pwm Apwm newsig Adir bit linkps pwmgen.0.dir = Adir linksp Adir = parport.0.pin-05-out #linksp Adir = parport.0.pin-07-out setp parport.0.pin-07-out-invert TRUE linksp Apwm = parport.0.pin-04-out setp pid.0.maxoutput 1.0 # the values below come from the ini setp pid.0.Pgain [AXIS_3]P setp pid.0.Igain [AXIS_3]I setp pid.0.Dgain [AXIS_3]D setp pid.0.bias [AXIS_3]BIAS setp pid.0.FF0 [AXIS_3]FF0 setp pid.0.FF1 [AXIS_3]FF1 setp pid.0.FF2 [AXIS_3]FF2 setp pid.0.deadband [AXIS_3]DEADBAND newsig Apos-cmd float linksp Apos-cmd = axis.3.motor-pos-cmd linkps pid.0.command = Apos-cmd newsig Aenable bit linkps axis.3.amp-enable-out = Aenable linksp Aenable = pid.0.enable linksp Aenable = pwmgen.0.enable net estop-loop iocontrol.0.user-enable-out iocontrol.0.emc-enable-in newsig Avel float newsig Aacc float linksp Apos-cmd = ddt.0.in linkps ddt.0.out = Avel linksp Avel = ddt.1.in linkps ddt.1.out = Aacc net tool-prep-loop iocontrol.0.tool-prepare iocontrol.0.tool-prepared net tool-change-loop iocontrol.0.tool-change iocontrol.0.tool-changed INI [EMC] #- Version of this INI file VERSION = $Revision$ #+ Name of machine, for use with display, etc. MACHINE = EMC-ETCH-SERVO #+ Debug level, 0 means no messages. See src/emc/nml_int/emcglb.h for others DEBUG = 0 [DISPLAY] #+ Name of display program, e.g., xemc DISPLAY = axis CYCLE_TIME = 0.200 OPEN_FILE = #- Path to help file HELP_FILE = doc/help.txt #- Initial display setting for position, RELATIVE or MACHINE POSITION_OFFSET = RELATIVE #- Initial display setting for position, COMMANDED or ACTUAL POSITION_FEEDBACK = ACTUAL #+ Highest value that will be allowed for feed override, 1.0 = 100% MAX_FEED_OVERRIDE = 10 #- Prefix to be used PROGRAM_PREFIX = /home/elhima/emc2/nc_files #- Introductory graphic INTRO_GRAPHIC = emc2.gif INTRO_TIME = 5 # Editor to be used with Axis EDITOR = gedit [TASK] # Name of task controller program, e.g., milltask TASK = milltask #- Cycle time, in seconds, that task controller will sleep between polls CYCLE_TIME = 0.010 [RS274NGC] #- File containing interpreter variables PARAMETER_FILE = etch.var [EMCMOT] #- Name of the motion controller to use (only one exists for nontrivkins) EMCMOT = motmod #- Timeout for comm to emcmot, in seconds COMM_TIMEOUT = 1.0 #- Interval between tries to emcmot, in seconds COMM_WAIT = 0.010 #+ Base task period, in nanosecs - this is the fastest thread in the machine BASE_PERIOD = 10 #- Servo task period, in nanosecs - will be rounded to an int multiple of BASE_PERIOD SERVO_PERIOD = 100 [HAL] HALFILE = etch.hal [TRAJ] #+
Re: [Emc-users] How to use Mesa 7i90HD ?
On 5 June 2014 09:14, Marius Alksnys marius.alks...@gmail.com wrote: My last test result is the output of dmesg: [ 6966.523231] hm2_7i90.0: firmware: requesting hm2/7i90/epp_sv12.bit I think that the 7i90 has permanent firmware. Try omitting the firmware=. from the config string. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe touch off
On X you can get confused if you forget what mode your in. For diameter mode it is 2 x the dowel + the diameter of the object in the chuck. For radius mode it is the diameter of the dowel + 1/2 the diameter of the object in the chuck. JT On 6/4/2014 8:08 AM, Marius Liebenberg wrote: So for the boring bar I can put an old rotary tool in the chuck and bring the bar from behind. I then lay the dowel between the the two tolls and jog away. The touch off will be that position less the diameter of the two tools. Do I have this correct? -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] How to use Mesa 7i90HD ?
On 06/05/2014 12:33 PM, andy pugh wrote: I think that the 7i90 has permanent firmware. Try omitting the firmware=. from the config string. Now with firmware= omitted I get: ... [ 1233.200543] RTAI[math]: loaded. [ 1233.316587] hm2: loading Mesa HostMot2 driver version 0.15 [ 1233.323232] hm2_7i90: loading HostMot2 Mesa 7i90 driver version 0.3 [ 1233.324813] hm2/hm2_7i90.0: inconsistent Module Descriptor for UART Transmit Channel, not loading driver [ 1233.324822] hm2/hm2_7i90.0: Version = 0, expected 0 [ 1233.324827] hm2/hm2_7i90.0: NumRegisters = 4, expected 4 [ 1233.324834] hm2/hm2_7i90.0: InstanceStride = 0x0040, expected 0x0010 [ 1233.324840] hm2/hm2_7i90.0: MultipleRegisters = 0x000F, expected 0x000F [ 1233.324846] hm2/hm2_7i90.0: inconsistent Module Descriptor! [ 1233.324852] hm2/hm2_7i90.0: failed to parse Module Descriptor 5 [ 1233.324865] hm2_7i90.0: board at (ioaddr=0x0378, ioaddr_hi=0x, epp_wide ON) not found! [ 1233.781704] hm2: unloading [ 1233.948104] RTAI[math]: unloaded. [ 1233.990994] SCHED releases registered named ALIEN RTGLBH [ 1234.020356] RTAI[malloc]: unloaded. [ 1234.120022] RTAI[sched]: unloaded (forced hard/soft/hard transitions: traps 0, syscalls 0). [ 1234.123774] I-pipe: Domain RTAI unregistered. [ 1234.123889] RTAI[hal]: unmounted. -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] How to use Mesa 7i90HD ?
2014-06-05 14:39 GMT+03:00 Marius Alksnys marius.alks...@gmail.com: [ 1233.324834] hm2/hm2_7i90.0: InstanceStride = 0x0040, expected 0x0010 Could be the problem? -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] How to use Mesa 7i90HD ?
On 5 June 2014 12:39, Marius Alksnys marius.alks...@gmail.com wrote: [ 1233.324813] hm2/hm2_7i90.0: inconsistent Module Descriptor for UART Transmit Channel, not loading driver Interesting. I don't know if the board uses any uarts, but you could try num_uarts=0 as a workaround. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] How to use Mesa 7i90HD ?
On 06/05/2014 02:55 PM, andy pugh wrote: On 5 June 2014 12:39, Marius Alksnys marius.alks...@gmail.com wrote: [ 1233.324813] hm2/hm2_7i90.0: inconsistent Module Descriptor for UART Transmit Channel, not loading driver Interesting. I don't know if the board uses any uarts, but you could try num_uarts=0 as a workaround. Still the same -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] How to use Mesa 7i90HD ?
On 5 June 2014 13:03, Marius Alksnys marius.alks...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting. I don't know if the board uses any uarts, but you could try num_uarts=0 as a workaround. Still the same Exactly the same, or a bit different? I have just noticed that the num_uarts option is not documented, but it does exist: http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=linuxcnc.git;a=blob;f=src/hal/drivers/mesa-hostmot2/hostmot2.c;h=223a224810c353529f6838c1189be8be118a2da5;hb=462f8094d2107178fe662add7b19ffab3a53c6cc#l433 As you are building from source it is possibly easiest to change uart.c http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=linuxcnc.git;a=blob;f=src/hal/drivers/mesa-hostmot2/uart.c;h=40056f30bfde58e2752e7674ee66a9ede7d6efef;hb=462f8094d2107178fe662add7b19ffab3a53c6cc#l42 Change the 0, 4, 0x10, 0x000F part to appease the driver: ie 0, 4, 0x40, 0x000F PCW would need to say which was correct as Master is also expecting UARTs to have a 0x10 instance stride -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] How to use Mesa 7i90HD ?
On Thu, 5 Jun 2014, Marius Alksnys wrote: Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2014 14:39:51 +0300 From: Marius Alksnys marius.alks...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] How to use Mesa 7i90HD ? On 06/05/2014 12:33 PM, andy pugh wrote: I think that the 7i90 has permanent firmware. Try omitting the firmware=. from the config string. Now with firmware= omitted I get: ... [ 1233.200543] RTAI[math]: loaded. [ 1233.316587] hm2: loading Mesa HostMot2 driver version 0.15 [ 1233.323232] hm2_7i90: loading HostMot2 Mesa 7i90 driver version 0.3 [ 1233.324813] hm2/hm2_7i90.0: inconsistent Module Descriptor for UART Transmit Channel, not loading driver [ 1233.324822] hm2/hm2_7i90.0: Version = 0, expected 0 [ 1233.324827] hm2/hm2_7i90.0: NumRegisters = 4, expected 4 [ 1233.324834] hm2/hm2_7i90.0: InstanceStride = 0x0040, expected 0x0010 [ 1233.324840] hm2/hm2_7i90.0: MultipleRegisters = 0x000F, expected 0x000F [ 1233.324846] hm2/hm2_7i90.0: inconsistent Module Descriptor! [ 1233.324852] hm2/hm2_7i90.0: failed to parse Module Descriptor 5 [ 1233.324865] hm2_7i90.0: board at (ioaddr=0x0378, ioaddr_hi=0x, epp_wide ON) not found! [ 1233.781704] hm2: unloading [ 1233.948104] RTAI[math]: unloaded. [ 1233.990994] SCHED releases registered named ALIEN RTGLBH [ 1234.020356] RTAI[malloc]: unloaded. [ 1234.120022] RTAI[sched]: unloaded (forced hard/soft/hard transitions: traps 0, syscalls 0). [ 1234.123774] I-pipe: Domain RTAI unregistered. [ 1234.123889] RTAI[hal]: unmounted. What firmware do you want on the 7I90? I would first flash the 7I90 with the desired firmware (using the latest version of mesaflash) https://github.com/micges/mesaflash The firmware with the UART has a bug, (this is do to the fact that all the 7I90 firmware is built with a script and the script does not fix the strides properly for the UART) If the 7I90 was shipped with that firmware, thats definately a mistake If you need firmware with a UART I will patch the bitfiles containing UARTs But note that currently due to limitations in the IDROM format it is not possible to combine UARTs with SSerial or BSPI. It may be that for now (until IDROM V4) that the HM2 driver needs to be patched so that if a UART is fount it uses hardwired stride, with maybe a complaint rather than and abort -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] How to use Mesa 7i90HD ?
On 5 June 2014 14:00, Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com wrote: It may be that for now (until IDROM V4) that the HM2 driver needs to be patched so that if a UART is fount it uses hardwired stride, with maybe a complaint rather than and abort I will try to do that tonight, it's a simple fix. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Step motor in closed loop
On Thu, 5 Jun 2014, ELHIMA Moustapha wrote: Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 01:47:43 -0700 (PDT) From: ELHIMA Moustapha melh...@yahoo.com To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net, emc2 emc-develop...@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] Step motor in closed loop Dear All, I'm back to get some help, I've tried to use my 2 phases 1.8° 12Nm stepmotor in closed loop on linuxcnc I have connected 600 lines encoder to get the feedback for my stone lathe. This encoder is connected directly to the back of the motor My driver is a leadshine MD2278 with a selector to set 400 step/rev (default) to 1 step/rev so it's possible to adjust the encoder resolution (2400pts/rev) to the encoder (2400 pulse/rev) I have tried to use the etch-servo config to control my step motor as servo motor When I tried to move the motor I have a fallowing error I have tried to change the parameters in the INI file but it doesn't really change My important axis is the A axis Can someone can give me help ? There are my config file I've removed the other axis because that will be same for the other axis : thanks a lot The step drive needs a step generator tha has step/dir signals, not a PWM generator Heres what I would do, using similar servo system hal/ini files set your input scale to encoder counts/turn set your output scale to step drive steps/turn setup a stepgen component in velocity mode (ctrl_type=v) setup a pid component (FF1 = 1, P = ~50, everything else 0) connect the stepgen.N.velocity pin to the PID output set the ferror and min ferror parameters to large values to start HAL # load realtime modules # kinematics loadrt trivkins loadrt [EMCMOT]EMCMOT base_period_nsec=[EMCMOT]BASE_PERIOD servo_period_nsec=[EMCMOT]SERVO_PERIOD num_joints=[TRAJ]AXES loadrt hal_parport cfg=0x378 out loadrt encoder num_chan=1 loadrt pid num_chan=1 loadrt pwmgen output_type=1 loadrt ddt count=2 loadrt constant count=1 # define the order of execution for RT code addf parport.0.read base-thread addf encoder.update-counters base-thread addf pwmgen.make-pulses base-thread addf parport.0.write base-thread addf encoder.capture-position servo-thread addf motion-command-handler servo-thread addf motion-controller servo-thread addf pid.0.do-pid-calcs servo-thread addf constant.0 servo-thread addf pwmgen.update servo-thread addf ddt.0 servo-thread addf ddt.1 servo-thread # hook stuff together newsig Apos-fb float setp encoder.0.position-scale [AXIS_3]INPUT_SCALE net enc0A encoder.0.phase-A = parport.0.pin-10-in net enc0B encoder.0.phase-B = parport.0.pin-11-in linksp Apos-fb = encoder.0.position newsig Avel-cmd float linksp Apos-fb = pid.0.feedback linksp Apos-fb = axis.3.motor-pos-fb linksp Avel-cmd = pid.0.output linksp Avel-cmd = pwmgen.0.value newsigApwm bit linkps pwmgen.0.pwm Apwm newsig Adir bit linkps pwmgen.0.dir = Adir linksp Adir = parport.0.pin-05-out #linksp Adir = parport.0.pin-07-out setp parport.0.pin-07-out-invert TRUE linksp Apwm = parport.0.pin-04-out setp pid.0.maxoutput 1.0 # the values below come from the ini setp pid.0.Pgain [AXIS_3]P setp pid.0.Igain [AXIS_3]I setp pid.0.Dgain [AXIS_3]D setp pid.0.bias [AXIS_3]BIAS setp pid.0.FF0 [AXIS_3]FF0 setp pid.0.FF1 [AXIS_3]FF1 setp pid.0.FF2 [AXIS_3]FF2 setp pid.0.deadband [AXIS_3]DEADBAND newsig Apos-cmd float linksp Apos-cmd = axis.3.motor-pos-cmd linkps pid.0.command = Apos-cmd newsig Aenable bit linkps axis.3.amp-enable-out = Aenable linksp Aenable = pid.0.enable linksp Aenable = pwmgen.0.enable net estop-loop iocontrol.0.user-enable-out iocontrol.0.emc-enable-in newsig Avel float newsig Aacc float linksp Apos-cmd = ddt.0.in linkps ddt.0.out = Avel linksp Avel = ddt.1.in linkps ddt.1.out = Aacc net tool-prep-loop iocontrol.0.tool-prepare iocontrol.0.tool-prepared net tool-change-loop iocontrol.0.tool-change iocontrol.0.tool-changed INI [EMC] #- Version of this INI file VERSION = $Revision$ #+ Name of machine, for use with display, etc. MACHINE = EMC-ETCH-SERVO #+ Debug level, 0 means no messages. See src/emc/nml_int/emcglb.h for others DEBUG = 0 [DISPLAY] #+ Name of display program, e.g., xemc DISPLAY = axis CYCLE_TIME = 0.200 OPEN_FILE = #- Path to help file HELP_FILE = doc/help.txt #- Initial display setting for position, RELATIVE or MACHINE POSITION_OFFSET = RELATIVE #- Initial display setting for position, COMMANDED or ACTUAL POSITION_FEEDBACK = ACTUAL #+ Highest value that will be allowed for feed override, 1.0 = 100% MAX_FEED_OVERRIDE = 10 #- Prefix to be used PROGRAM_PREFIX = /home/elhima/emc2/nc_files #- Introductory graphic INTRO_GRAPHIC = emc2.gif INTRO_TIME = 5 # Editor to be used with Axis EDITOR = gedit [TASK] # Name of task controller program, e.g., milltask TASK =
Re: [Emc-users] OT: Bandsaw Blades
On 06/02/2014 03:49 AM, John Thornton wrote: Let us know what you think about it... might save me from trying it. I got the Starrett blade. While putting it on the saw, I noticed the power cord was in really bad shape, so I pulled the saw out to get to the wiring inside and found four unused blades in the coolant tank. My dad had not used coolant, so I guess used the tank for storage. With a new power cord installed, I installed the new blade and made a couple of cuts on 1 x 3 6061 aluminum. Everything worked fine without any drama. I don't do a lot of cutting, so it will be a while before the blade will get any serious testing. -- Kirk Wallace http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ http://www.wallacecompany.com/E45/ -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] How to use Mesa 7i90HD ?
On Thu, 5 Jun 2014, andy pugh wrote: Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 14:20:55 +0100 From: andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] How to use Mesa 7i90HD ? On 5 June 2014 14:00, Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com wrote: It may be that for now (until IDROM V4) that the HM2 driver needs to be patched so that if a UART is fount it uses hardwired stride, with maybe a complaint rather than and abort I will try to do that tonight, it's a simple fix. That would be great! Seems like a few people are starting to use the UART interface and eventually it will collide with sserial or BSPI -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe touch off
Would you say it is better to always work in any one of the modes? I mean Radius or Diameter? On 2014-06-05 12:33, John Thornton wrote: On X you can get confused if you forget what mode your in. For diameter mode it is 2 x the dowel + the diameter of the object in the chuck. For radius mode it is the diameter of the dowel + 1/2 the diameter of the object in the chuck. JT On 6/4/2014 8:08 AM, Marius Liebenberg wrote: So for the boring bar I can put an old rotary tool in the chuck and bring the bar from behind. I then lay the dowel between the the two tolls and jog away. The touch off will be that position less the diameter of the two tools. Do I have this correct? -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Regards /Groete Marius D. Liebenberg +27 82 698 3251 +27 12 743 6064 QQ 1767394877 -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe touch off
On 5 June 2014 18:14, Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za wrote: Would you say it is better to always work in any one of the modes? I mean Radius or Diameter? I always work in diameter, except when trying to programme arcs -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Step motor in closed loop
First can you move this to the EMC users list as the EMC developers list is not and appropriate place for configuration and setup information On Thu, 5 Jun 2014, Moustapha Elhima wrote: Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 21:19:55 +0200 From: Moustapha Elhima melh...@yahoo.com Reply-To: EMC developers emc-develop...@lists.sourceforge.net To: EMC developers emc-develop...@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] [Emc-users] Step motor in closed loop Thanks Peter I made your suggestion and Axis start without error but when I try to move the axis nothing happen the motor don't move If I turn the motor shaft i see the value changing in the axis and put an error so the encoder signal work did you have a stepmotor closed loop config to compare what wrong on mine Thanks again for your great help I have a closed loop config that I did for a customer, its a little different because it uses hardware stepgens and encoder counters insted of linuxcnc software stepgen and encoder counters but the connection details are the same: freeby.mesanet.com/3x20encstep.zip Cordialement Moustapha Elhima Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Step motor in closed loop
Hi Peter, Thanks I try it tomorrow and let you know thanks again for your help Cordialement, Moustapha Elhima +33 6 09 99 21 97 P Penser à préserver l'environnement avant d'imprimer ce message. Merci Le Jeudi 5 juin 2014 21h41, Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com a écrit : First can you move this to the EMC users list as the EMC developers list is not and appropriate place for configuration and setup information On Thu, 5 Jun 2014, Moustapha Elhima wrote: Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 21:19:55 +0200 From: Moustapha Elhima melh...@yahoo.com Reply-To: EMC developers emc-develop...@lists.sourceforge.net To: EMC developers emc-develop...@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] [Emc-users] Step motor in closed loop Thanks Peter I made your suggestion and Axis start without error but when I try to move the axis nothing happen the motor don't move If I turn the motor shaft i see the value changing in the axis and put an error so the encoder signal work did you have a stepmotor closed loop config to compare what wrong on mine Thanks again for your great help I have a closed loop config that I did for a customer, its a little different because it uses hardware stepgens and encoder counters insted of linuxcnc software stepgen and encoder counters but the connection details are the same: freeby.mesanet.com/3x20encstep.zip Cordialement Moustapha Elhima Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?
I have been using the same version of machinekit/Linuxcnc forever and thought i would upgrade. The feed control was controlling the overall feedrate in Feed and rapid moves. Now suddenly it is only controlling the feedrate and not the rapids. Linuxcnc from my point of view is a pain in the A*se to control,what the hell are they playing at?? It is getting to the point where i dare not upgrade. -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?
On 6/5/14 15:44 , Mark Tucker wrote: I have been using the same version of machinekit/Linuxcnc forever and thought i would upgrade. The feed control was controlling the overall feedrate in Feed and rapid moves. Now suddenly it is only controlling the feedrate and not the rapids. Linuxcnc from my point of view is a pain in the A*se to control,what the hell are they playing at?? It is getting to the point where i dare not upgrade. This was mentioned in the upgrade notes that i sent out with the announcement of the new version. It's in the Important Behavior Changes section here: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UpdatingTo2.6 -- Sebastian Kuzminsky -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com wrote: This was mentioned in the upgrade notes that i sent out with the announcement of the new version. It's in the Important Behavior Changes section here: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UpdatingTo2.6 You expect users to actually read the instructions for a new version of a complex and potentially dangerous software package? Blasphemy! -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?
On 5 June 2014 22:44, Mark Tucker m...@rmtucker.f2s.com wrote: I have been using the same version of machinekit/Linuxcnc forever and thought i would upgrade. The feed control was controlling the overall feedrate in Feed and rapid moves. Now feed over-ride over-rides the feed rate and max-velocity over-ride over-rides the max-velocity. Seems sensible really, but I can imagine it coming as a surprise. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 6:19 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: Now feed over-ride over-rides the feed rate and max-velocity over-ride over-rides the max-velocity. Seems sensible really, but I can imagine it coming as a surprise. -- Obviously, during rapids the tool shouldn't be engaged with the work, but most controls just have one feed rate override knob. Now you have to have 2 knobs? Not sure how I feel about that. When I'm not sure of my program, I twiddle the feed rate knob quite a bit. -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?
Le 06/06/2014 00:25, Eric Keller a écrit : Obviously, during rapids the tool shouldn't be engaged with the work, but most controls just have one feed rate override knob. Now you have to have 2 knobs? Not sure how I feel about that. When I'm not sure of my program, I twiddle the feed rate knob quite a bit. So do I. Saved me a couple of parts and tools ! May be there is some HAL trick to get the same knob sending value to the two feed control pins ? -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?
After using the maximum velocity control - I rarely use feedrate override anymore. (just for tweeking the cutting speed.) but really - MV is awesome... (I have 1 mpg and I select between FO, MV, SO, X, Y and Z) sam On 06/05/2014 05:25 PM, Eric Keller wrote: On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 6:19 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: Now feed over-ride over-rides the feed rate and max-velocity over-ride over-rides the max-velocity. Seems sensible really, but I can imagine it coming as a surprise. -- Obviously, during rapids the tool shouldn't be engaged with the work, but most controls just have one feed rate override knob. Now you have to have 2 knobs? Not sure how I feel about that. When I'm not sure of my program, I twiddle the feed rate knob quite a bit. -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?
On 05/06/14 23:19, andy pugh wrote: Now feed over-ride over-rides the feed rate and max-velocity over-ride over-rides the max-velocity. Seems sensible really, but I can imagine it coming as a surprise. Really ? Do you actually use it? Take this Scenario:- Max Velocity 2000mm Feed in program 1000mm Turn the max velocity slider down to 75% = Rapids now 1500mm , Feed 1000mm Turn the max velocity slider down to 50% = Rapids now 1000mm , Feed 1000mm Turn the max velocity slider down to 25% = Rapids now 500mm , Feed 500mm This is getting awfully confusing now because what is the feedrate slider doing at this point if you set it to 50%??? Do you get 50% of 1000mm or 500mm. I have never seen such bollocks in 30 years of cnc machine operating. -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?
Not only that but what happens to the people that have built a control with 1 knob??? By the way you have to fit another one now On 05/06/14 23:46, Mark Tucker wrote: On 05/06/14 23:19, andy pugh wrote: Now feed over-ride over-rides the feed rate and max-velocity over-ride over-rides the max-velocity. Seems sensible really, but I can imagine it coming as a surprise. Really ? Do you actually use it? Take this Scenario:- Max Velocity 2000mm Feed in program 1000mm Turn the max velocity slider down to 75% = Rapids now 1500mm , Feed 1000mm Turn the max velocity slider down to 50% = Rapids now 1000mm , Feed 1000mm Turn the max velocity slider down to 25% = Rapids now 500mm , Feed 500mm This is getting awfully confusing now because what is the feedrate slider doing at this point if you set it to 50%??? Do you get 50% of 1000mm or 500mm. I have never seen such bollocks in 30 years of cnc machine operating. -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?
Honesty after I upgraded to the newest release recently I felt much the same way as mark. It was better I think with seperate feedrate and rapid overrides. The Max feedrate Works but it can be frustrating. I use my machine apparently much the way Mark does in varying feedrates when running a virgin code program. I am going to add some custom stuff to the control and honestly the comments about reading the manual are kinda irritating especially when the Manual is so vast in scope and information for things are spread around so much. The documentation of the control is difficult to understand for me and this is not my first cnc. It is hard enough for me not being a programmer type. Just a humble opinion not trying to hurt any feelings. I LOVE LinuxCNC so far. peace Pete On Thursday, June 5, 2014, Mark Tucker m...@rmtucker.f2s.com wrote: On 05/06/14 23:19, andy pugh wrote: Now feed over-ride over-rides the feed rate and max-velocity over-ride over-rides the max-velocity. Seems sensible really, but I can imagine it coming as a surprise. Really ? Do you actually use it? Take this Scenario:- Max Velocity 2000mm Feed in program 1000mm Turn the max velocity slider down to 75% = Rapids now 1500mm , Feed 1000mm Turn the max velocity slider down to 50% = Rapids now 1000mm , Feed 1000mm Turn the max velocity slider down to 25% = Rapids now 500mm , Feed 500mm This is getting awfully confusing now because what is the feedrate slider doing at this point if you set it to 50%??? Do you get 50% of 1000mm or 500mm. I have never seen such bollocks in 30 years of cnc machine operating. -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?
On 5 June 2014 23:57, Mark Tucker m...@rmtucker.f2s.com wrote: Not only that but what happens to the people that have built a control with 1 knob??? That's a fair question. I haven't tried it (I use touchy and Axis. In the former the function of the knob is selectable, in the latter I have no knobs) but I am pretty sure that the same knob can easily control both over-rides and the net effect will be just like the current behaviour. Assuming an encoder and halui: net override encoder.1.counts = halui.feed-override.counts Can be replaced with net override encoder.1.counts = halui.feed-override.counts halui.max-velocity.counts If you are seeing the new behaviour then you are using the un-released preview version, and getting feedback on this sort of change is the reason for the preview period. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?
On 05/06/14 22:49, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: On 6/5/14 15:44 , Mark Tucker wrote: I have been using the same version of machinekit/Linuxcnc forever and thought i would upgrade. The feed control was controlling the overall feedrate in Feed and rapid moves. Now suddenly it is only controlling the feedrate and not the rapids. Linuxcnc from my point of view is a pain in the A*se to control,what the hell are they playing at?? It is getting to the point where i dare not upgrade. This was mentioned in the upgrade notes that i sent out with the announcement of the new version. It's in the Important Behavior Changes section here: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UpdatingTo2.6 And you really think this is enough notification for such an important change?? I am still a big follower of linuxcnc and appreciate the hard work that has gone into it,But some of these changes should be discussed in a big way Before someone get hurt -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?
like this? http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.distributions.emc.devel/11144/ sam On 06/05/2014 06:10 PM, Mark Tucker wrote: On 05/06/14 22:49, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: On 6/5/14 15:44 , Mark Tucker wrote: I have been using the same version of machinekit/Linuxcnc forever and thought i would upgrade. The feed control was controlling the overall feedrate in Feed and rapid moves. Now suddenly it is only controlling the feedrate and not the rapids. Linuxcnc from my point of view is a pain in the A*se to control,what the hell are they playing at?? It is getting to the point where i dare not upgrade. This was mentioned in the upgrade notes that i sent out with the announcement of the new version. It's in the Important Behavior Changes section here: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UpdatingTo2.6 And you really think this is enough notification for such an important change?? I am still a big follower of linuxcnc and appreciate the hard work that has gone into it,But some of these changes should be discussed in a big way Before someone get hurt -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?
I have a Mori Seiki CNC lathe with Fanuc 0i-TC control and a Haas TM-1 CNC mill. They both have independent control of feed override and rapids override. I would not expect or want feed override to control rapids or vice-versa. I guess I can see some logic in the max-velocity approach, but it is different than the other CNC's I use. -- Ralph From: Mark Tucker [m...@rmtucker.f2s.com] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 3:46 PM To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it? On 05/06/14 23:19, andy pugh wrote: Now feed over-ride over-rides the feed rate and max-velocity over-ride over-rides the max-velocity. Seems sensible really, but I can imagine it coming as a surprise. Really ? Do you actually use it? Take this Scenario:- Max Velocity 2000mm Feed in program 1000mm Turn the max velocity slider down to 75% = Rapids now 1500mm , Feed 1000mm Turn the max velocity slider down to 50% = Rapids now 1000mm , Feed 1000mm Turn the max velocity slider down to 25% = Rapids now 500mm , Feed 500mm This is getting awfully confusing now because what is the feedrate slider doing at this point if you set it to 50%??? Do you get 50% of 1000mm or 500mm. I have never seen such bollocks in 30 years of cnc machine operating. -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Pete Matos petefro...@gmail.com wrote: honestly the comments about reading the manual are kinda irritating You really should read the release notes when changing version, you could hurt your machine or yourself. Nobody expects you to read the manual to find the changes. -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?
On 06/06/14 00:31, sam sokolik wrote: like this? http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.distributions.emc.devel/11144/ sam That was the sum total of the discussion?? Errr i think it should be this way,Ok lets go with it Wow what about the people that actually use it on a daily basis ? Honestly this is so frustrating i can no longer upgrade. -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?
I would be happy with rapid and seperate feed overrides but that is not what it is right now. It is just totally confusing when you turn the max velocity down to below the feed threshhold. On 06/06/14 00:39, Ralph Stirling wrote: I have a Mori Seiki CNC lathe with Fanuc 0i-TC control and a Haas TM-1 CNC mill. They both have independent control of feed override and rapids override. I would not expect or want feed override to control rapids or vice-versa. I guess I can see some logic in the max-velocity approach, but it is different than the other CNC's I use. -- Ralph From: Mark Tucker [m...@rmtucker.f2s.com] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 3:46 PM To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it? On 05/06/14 23:19, andy pugh wrote: Now feed over-ride over-rides the feed rate and max-velocity over-ride over-rides the max-velocity. Seems sensible really, but I can imagine it coming as a surprise. Really ? Do you actually use it? Take this Scenario:- Max Velocity 2000mm Feed in program 1000mm Turn the max velocity slider down to 75% = Rapids now 1500mm , Feed 1000mm Turn the max velocity slider down to 50% = Rapids now 1000mm , Feed 1000mm Turn the max velocity slider down to 25% = Rapids now 500mm , Feed 500mm This is getting awfully confusing now because what is the feedrate slider doing at this point if you set it to 50%??? Do you get 50% of 1000mm or 500mm. I have never seen such bollocks in 30 years of cnc machine operating. -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?
On 06/05/2014 05:39 PM, Ralph Stirling wrote: I have a Mori Seiki CNC lathe with Fanuc 0i-TC control and a Haas TM-1 CNC mill. They both have independent control of feed override and rapids override. I would not expect or want feed override to control rapids or vice-versa. I guess I can see some logic in the max-velocity approach, but it is different than the other CNC's I use. I can see the utility of a rapid-override pin, in addition to the feed-override and max-velocity pins we currently have. The addition of rapid-override would make it easy to implement the behavior that Mark Tucker desires. I would be happy to review a patch against master that adds this pin. -- Sebastian Kuzminsky -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Fwd: Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?
- Forwarded message - From: Chris Morley chrisinnana...@hotmail.com To: seb emc s...@highlab.com Subject: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it? Date: Thu, Jun 5, 2014 5:44 PM I can look at this this weekend. Adding a HAL pin for rapid override should be no problem. Tying that pin to halui should make it work as before for those who want it that way. Chris M - Reply message - From: Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it? Date: Thu, Jun 5, 2014 4:46 PM On 06/05/2014 05:39 PM, Ralph Stirling wrote: I have a Mori Seiki CNC lathe with Fanuc 0i-TC control and a Haas TM-1 CNC mill. They both have independent control of feed override and rapids override. I would not expect or want feed override to control rapids or vice-versa. I guess I can see some logic in the max-velocity approach, but it is different than the other CNC's I use. I can see the utility of a rapid-override pin, in addition to the feed-override and max-velocity pins we currently have. The addition of rapid-override would make it easy to implement the behavior that Mark Tucker desires. I would be happy to review a patch against master that adds this pin. -- Sebastian Kuzminsky -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Why do dangerous changes suddenly creep in to Linuxcnc and nobody mentions it?
I must admit that my (older) LinuxCNC machines seemed strange in that the feed override changed the G0 speed. a G1 F500 (or whatever) would do if I wanted to control rapids when controlling the feed rate, but, that was not my intention. So, to me, this change actually makes sense! John. -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
