Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc and Arduino

2016-05-16 Thread andy pugh 
On 16 May 2016 at 15:03, Forum Deswysen  wrote:
> The reaction speed is the same as a button on a Parport entry?

That rather depends on how the Arduino connects to LinuxCNC, but the
answer is likely to be that it won't be anywhere near as fast.


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[Emc-users] Linuxcnc and Arduino

2016-05-16 Thread Forum Deswysen 
Hello,

I use an Arduino to control a turret.
If I connect the Arduino buttons or jog wheels axes?

Are there has a response time?

The reaction speed is the same as a button on a Parport entry?

Best regards,

Pierre
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Re: [Emc-users] Need some advice --> OT

2016-05-16 Thread Nicklas Karlsson 
> >  To put in another way the goverment should not be allowed to take money 
> > for nothing not even from those they claim are criminals because this is 
> > what usually is called theft.
> >
> 
> A lot of us folks consider taxation the same thing.  ;-)

Didn't think about that, that's certainly a drawback of earning money.

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Re: [Emc-users] Need some advice

2016-05-16 Thread Dave Cole 
On 5/15/2016 7:55 PM, Chris Albertson wrote:
> On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 2:41 PM, Dave Cole  wrote:
>
>> Most people understand what a certified check is.   However you can
>> always ask him if he will accept a certified check before you travel.
>>
> No, most people don't understand checks.  They THINK a certified check
> is as good as cash but there is a big scam going around where people
> buy things like this with fake certified checks.  They use very nice
> looking counterfeit checks.  These are even good enough to fool the
> people at the bank where you deposit the check.   Then some days later
> you get a notice from your bank that the check is bogus and you are
> simply out the money with zero recourse.
>
> So when some guy offers to give me a check for something I'm selling
> on CraigsList I tell them I will hold the check until the bank tells
> me it is good with could take 90 days  (This is NOT the same as when
> the bank releases funds.  That is determined by a fixed schedule and
> is some small number of days depending on the amount.)
>
> If I do accept a check from an unknown person I warn them to bring two
> government IDs,their car registration and cell phone and then I shoot
> a photo of them holding the check and all those documents.  And their
> car with them in the photo.
>
> But it rarely goes that far.  If I just write "You may not know it but
> counterfeit cashier checks are a problem." then I never hear from the
> scammers again as they know their scam will not work.  The scam only
> works on sellers who think a check is as good as cash.   All you have
> to do is try and sell some expensive boats, antiques and whatever on
> CL and you will get many offers to pay with fake checks.  It is so
> common that CL prints warnings of this on many of their web pages.
>
> A certified check only means that the account has enough funds to
> cover the check.  I can call my bank and stop payment on the check
> before I put the check in the mail and the guy who gets it will have a
> worthless check.
>
> Wire transfers are different.  They are same as cash and not revokable
> but banks charge about $40 per transaction.  Western Union is also
> same as cash too.
>
> PayPal works well for smaller transfers but the 2% fee is to high for
> larger transactions.  PayPal offer a good brokerage service and can
> revoke a transaction in the case of fraud.  It makes on-line buying
> pretty safe.
>

I have had good luck with Certified and Cashiers checks.   There really 
isn't much of an option for anything else except cash without doing a 
bank to bank transfer and sometimes the seller doesn't have a bank 
account let alone Paypal.  (Some folks still live in the stone age)

I've paid for some pretty expensive things with Certified and Cashiers 
checks.   That's the norm for real estate transactions.
I do think you need to know who you are dealing with.   Taking photos of 
them and their ID makes perfect sense.

Paypal and Ebay are just ok.   They will go only so far and then you are 
on your own.  There is a time limit on how long you are "protected" with 
Paypal.   If you don't physically obtain the item within
the specified time limit, then your Paypal protection is gone and you 
are on your own.You need to follow the Paypal rules correctly or 
else they will claim that they are no longer responsible.   (They will 
exit at the first chance possible)
So for instance you buy a mill in January and the weather is too bad to 
move the machine.   The time limit runs out and the seller resells or 
prevents you from picking up the machine.  You are screwed and may end 
up suing the seller in order to recoup your money.   I had this happen 
once and the seller didn't sell the machine (he tried) but he moved it 
and tried to hide it.   The police found it and a civil court case 
ensued,  (the prosecutor would not do her job - since it was an 
interstate transaction) which forced the issue, but that took a years time.

Dave



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Re: [Emc-users] Need some advice

2016-05-16 Thread Dave Cole 
On 5/15/2016 6:03 PM, andy pugh wrote:
> On 15 May 2016 at 17:41, Dave Cole  wrote:
>> Most people understand what a certified check is.   However you can
>> always ask him if he will accept a certified check before you travel.
> I would't take one. I have never seen one, I wouldn't know what to
> look for, and the whole thing reeks of "Scam that I don't understand
> or haven't yet heard of"
>

Understandable if you haven't seen one.
There are very common in the US.   I understand that wire transfers are 
very common in the EU so you probably don't have a need for Certified 
Checks.
The banks here gouge us for wire transfers.   Its ridiculous. However 
they can clear an electronic transaction between banks in minutes now.

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Re: [Emc-users] Need some advice --> OT

2016-05-16 Thread Mark Wendt 
On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Nicklas Karlsson
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>  To put in another way the goverment should not be allowed to take money for 
> nothing not even from those they claim are criminals because this is what 
> usually is called theft.
>

A lot of us folks consider taxation the same thing.  ;-)

Mark

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Re: [Emc-users] Need some advice --> OT

2016-05-16 Thread Mark Wendt 
On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Nicklas Karlsson
 wrote:



> To put in another way the goverment should not be allowed to take money for 
> nothing not even from those they claim are criminals because this is what 
> usually is called theft.
>

Funny, taxation is the same thing.

Mark

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Re: [Emc-users] Need some advice --> OT

2016-05-16 Thread Lester Caine 
On 16/05/16 09:11, Sarah Armstrong wrote:
> but their again the USA are werid ! LOL

I think that is the bottom line ;)

Paypal is good but costs and international payments cost even more. I
USED to be able to do international bank transfers on-line but as with
many bank related activities, unless you are paying their monthly fees
for a service you might use a few times a year ... the service now
involves my ringing up each time ... and just paying the fee for that month.

It is about time there was proper competition rather than the current
'cartel' set-up where the banks set the rules between themselves and
stick two fingers at the law? As Sarah said, much of the time you can
transfer money in seconds, yet it still takes some of the same transfers
'three working days' ... which over Easter meant they had my money for a
week! It was out of one account the the Wednesday before, and did not
get credited to the other account until the next Wednesday. But they
ring on weekends and bank holidays when you have not paid them!

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Re: [Emc-users] Awlsim, raspi-profibus

2016-05-16 Thread Michael Büsch 
On Sun, 15 May 2016 19:33:03 +0200
Nicklas Karlsson  wrote:

> Then trying to get raspi-profibus to work on an ordinary PC I discovered 
> there is an awlsim hal module suitable for PLC programming. It would be good 
> to know if anyone are working with awlsim? Or profibus right now?
> 
> The raspi-profibus software is divided in two. The higher level is written in 
> python and communicate with the lower levels implemented on an Atmel AVR via 
> SPI. I have been able to replace AVR code with ordinary *nix system calls for 
> UART communication. Data is coming out but no answer from real hardware, it 
> is at exactly this point I got stuck last time I tried.

I am the author of these projects.

I just want to note that "raspi-profibus" is end-of-life and its
successor "pyprofibus" is not split into Python and C anymore. It does
not use an AtmelAVR via SPI for data transfer anymore.
It's a pure Python implementation that already contains pure Python
code for a /dev/ttyS UART PHY.
So "pyprofibus" is not restricted to the Raspi and should work anywhere
(including an LinuxCNC/awlsim enviromment. But that was not tested, yet)

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Re: [Emc-users] Need some advice --> OT

2016-05-16 Thread Sarah Armstrong 
with technology as it is these days , i just pay the person directly from
bank to bank
using either Paypal or Bank transfer , takes seconds . so long as you have
access to a pc , or a smartphone

and the beneifit is it's all traceable so they cant say they never got it
etc
iv'e transfered moneys , gave the system a few mins , and the person i pay
can check that the payments theirs , straight away

all banks have a limit that if the amount is over , they internally check
it for money laundering etc , in the UK it's £10,000
if i feel they might be a problem , i inform the bank 24 hrs before the
transaction . up to now never had a problem .

but their again the USA are werid ! LOL


On 16 May 2016 at 01:21, Chris Albertson  wrote:

> On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Nicklas Karlsson
>  wrote:
> > Well it is rather simple, justice should be paid by those who benefit or
> unstable society is created. These kind of laws should be to stop crimes
> not confiscate property. Confiscate property is called a fine and unless
> paid property could be sold to get money. It should only be allowed to
> confiscate property illegally transferred. Since value should not be
> confiscated once fine is paid and other punishment is done value left
> belong to the owner who ever it is. To put in another way the government
> should not be allowed to take money for nothing not even from those they
> claim are criminals because this is what usually is called theft.
>
> Hey thinks ARE getting better.  In the past the cop would just take
> the money and pocket it.  Yes that is called theft but what's a drug
> dealer to do about it?   Then they past these "Civil Forfeiture'' laws
> to formalize the process and make sure the money is shared with the
> rest of the department.
>
> But as I said, it's getting better.  Now everyone has a cell phone
> that can record video so cops have to be a little bit more carful
>
> Better also as some new cars keep log files and can tell if the car
> stopped at the light or how fast it was going or if a tail light was
> in fact out.
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 15 May 2016 17:16:07 -0500
> > Jack Coats  wrote:
> >
> >> The "Civil Forfeiture'' laws are what you are discussing.  Yes,
> traveling
> >> with large amounts of cash seems to make you the target of this
> especially
> >> when traveling long distances.  It is a law designed to help reduce the
> >> drug trafficking by allowing law enforcement to capture suspected 'drug
> >> money' and use it to supplement the budget of local law enforcement. ...
> >> To many agencies are using it as a 'revenue enhancement tool' instead
> and
> >> not using it as the law was initially intended, especially since it is
> >> easier to find and acquire and you don't have to do any ugly things like
> >> take anyone to court or arrest them or marandize them.  The are
> effectively
> >> 'arresting the money' or other assets, not the people carrying the
> assets.
> >>
> >> Here in TN it has been a real problem and some laws are coming down to
> make
> >> it less 'profitable' for the agencies to use this law and to allow for
> >> easier and faster recourse for the property owners to sue to get the
> >> money/assets back.
> >>
> >> The way is its being described in the media is that if you are caught
> with
> >> large sums of money (in TN on I40, mainly going from East to West, since
> >> drugs tend to flow West to East), the money is arrested, not the people
> >> carrying it, because it is ASSUMED that large sums of money is ONLY
> used to
> >> purchase drugs.  Some families on vacation, persons going to purchase
> show
> >> cars, etc seem to be the easy targets since many carry cash for this
> >> purpose.  I could see folks going to purchase large machine tools or
> >> material could be caught in this fiasco as well.
> >>
> >> Locally there have been various expose's by TV anchors to get this
> stopped,
> >> or at least increase viewership.  I guess it is working since
> legislation
> >> keeps coming up to stop this or at least curb the efforts.  I do not
> know
> >> the current state of this legislation.
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