Re: [Emc-users] AMC seems to have removed all legacy manuals in last couple of days

2017-04-10 Thread dragon
I discovered this a few weeks back when they launched their new site. archive.org just generates an empty file with a .pdf extension so it was no help. I did find that you could still get to them from the European website... for now. On 04/10/2017 09:35 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > On 04/10/2017 08:32

Re: [Emc-users] AMC seems to have removed all legacy manuals in last couple of days

2017-04-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/10/2017 08:32 PM, Ken Strauss wrote: > Have you checked archive.org for captured copies? > > It turns out the manuals are still there, but you can't get to them from the product selector. But, if you go in through the document search, and know the part numbers, they still come up. I

Re: [Emc-users] Way OT, Unexpected Result from Refrigerator

2017-04-10 Thread Gregg Eshelman
You wouldn't want to put R-134a in it. http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/showthread.php?133531-SubZero-532 On Monday, April 10, 2017, 3:44:48 AM MDT, Kirk Wallace wrote:On 04/09/2017 09:16 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: ... snip > It turns out, without adding more ice the

Re: [Emc-users] Way OT, Unexpected Result from Refrigerator

2017-04-10 Thread John Figie
Uh no again. Most camper and rv refrigerators use ammonia continuous cycle and burn propane to produce heat to power the system. They have been that way as long as i can remember. Now i am not as old as you but i would say that for at least the last 50 years. In fact the original Dometic

Re: [Emc-users] AMC seems to have removed all legacy manuals in last couple of days

2017-04-10 Thread Ken Strauss
Have you checked archive.org for captured copies? > -Original Message- > From: Jon Elson [mailto:el...@pico-systems.com] > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 9:30 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: [Emc-users] AMC seems to have removed all legacy manuals in last > couple of

[Emc-users] AMC seems to have removed all legacy manuals in last couple of days

2017-04-10 Thread Jon Elson
I just noticed that AMC (Advanced Motion Controls) seems to have pulled all their legacy servo amp manuals from their web site in the last week. NOT a great discovery! Jon -- Check out the vibrant tech community on

Re: [Emc-users] Way OT, Unexpected Result from Refrigerator

2017-04-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 10 April 2017 18:15:00 andy pugh wrote: > On 10 April 2017 at 22:59, Gene Heskett wrote: > > And I got so involved here I forgot a skillet on the stove with > > dinner in it. Edible but singed a bit. Oh look, a pony... > > In case that worries you, I do that

Re: [Emc-users] Way OT, Unexpected Result from Refrigerator

2017-04-10 Thread Gregg Eshelman
It'd be more cost effective to get the fridge repaired, or replace it. Has it been doing this for 10 years? Name it William Perry. ;) On 10 April 2017 at 06:16, Kirk Wallace wrote: > While I think of a tie-in to LinuxCNC, here is the story. I have a > refrigerator

Re: [Emc-users] Way OT, Unexpected Result from Refrigerator

2017-04-10 Thread andy pugh
On 10 April 2017 at 22:59, Gene Heskett wrote: > And I got so involved here I forgot a skillet on the stove with dinner in > it. Edible but singed a bit. Oh look, a pony... In case that worries you, I do that regularly, at a bit more than half your age. -- atp "A

Re: [Emc-users] Way OT, Unexpected Result from Refrigerator

2017-04-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 10 April 2017 16:17:34 Kurt Jacobson wrote: > Gene, that is very interesting. I have a friend that has an old > sulphur dioxide > refrigerator in his shop. It works great and maintains the most > consistent temperature I have ever seen, even if it is 100F out the > Pepsi in it will be

Re: [Emc-users] Way OT, Unexpected Result from Refrigerator

2017-04-10 Thread Kurt Jacobson
Gene, that is very interesting. I have a friend that has an old sulphur dioxide refrigerator in his shop. It works great and maintains the most consistent temperature I have ever seen, even if it is 100F out the Pepsi in it will be just a little slushy, which is the way I like it. Here is a

Re: [Emc-users] Way OT, Unexpected Result from Refrigerator

2017-04-10 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 12:00 PM, andy pugh > I am impressed that someone managed to come up with this cycle: > http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~mnr/fridge.html No less a celebrity than Albert Einstein himself: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein_refrigerator and ammonia

Re: [Emc-users] Way OT, Unexpected Result from Refrigerator

2017-04-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 10 April 2017 13:59:37 Todd Zuercher wrote: > Those ammonia cycle refrigerators are pretty common in RVs and > campers. > Uh, no. 99% of those that run on bottle gas are sulphur dioxide based units. Actually quite decent efficiency, but the problem with sulphur dioxide is that its a

Re: [Emc-users] halui.max-velocity ...

2017-04-10 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 04/10/2017 02:18 AM, giorgio foga wrote: > using JA I try to send halui.max-velocity.decrease/increase trought > modbus after more test I see it work well but the result is > unespected for my config. With axis gui I have max-velocity slider > that show 21mm/min max velocity ... it is

Re: [Emc-users] Way OT, Unexpected Result from Refrigerator

2017-04-10 Thread Todd Zuercher
Those ammonia cycle refrigerators are pretty common in RVs and campers. - Original Message - From: "Kurt Jacobson" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 12:23:20 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Way OT,

Re: [Emc-users] Way OT, Unexpected Result from Refrigerator

2017-04-10 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
Unexpected smell is rather common then to much time have been spent in front of computer solving numerous small problems. On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 12:23:20 -0400 Kurt Jacobson wrote: > > > > I am impressed that someone managed to come up with this cycle: > >

Re: [Emc-users] Way OT, Unexpected Result from Refrigerator

2017-04-10 Thread Kurt Jacobson
> > I am impressed that someone managed to come up with this cycle: > http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~mnr/fridge.html We used to see quite a few ammonia cycle based refrigerators and central air conditioning units down here in the south (Georgia), but they are becoming scarce now. They were generally

Re: [Emc-users] Way OT, Unexpected Result from Refrigerator

2017-04-10 Thread jrmitchellj .
W. W. Grainger might be your friend for parts to repair the S. Z. I have repaired bottle chests (like used in a bar) with parts from them. Home brewing is annother of my passions. --J. Ray Mitchell Jr. jrmitche...@gmail.com (818)324-7573 The dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the

Re: [Emc-users] [LinuxCNC/linuxcnc] linuxcnc does not start with mesa board (#256)

2017-04-10 Thread Valerio Bellizzomi
On Mon, 2017-04-10 at 10:05 -0600, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > On 04/10/2017 09:45 AM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: > > On Mon, 2017-04-10 at 16:30 +0100, andy pugh wrote: > >> On 10 April 2017 at 15:52, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: > >>> Running the servo jitter test program shows

Re: [Emc-users] [LinuxCNC/linuxcnc] linuxcnc does not start with mesa board (#256)

2017-04-10 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 04/10/2017 09:45 AM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: > On Mon, 2017-04-10 at 16:30 +0100, andy pugh wrote: >> On 10 April 2017 at 15:52, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: >>> Running the servo jitter test program shows a value of around 6000-7000, >>> but the default is 100 ! >> >>

Re: [Emc-users] Way OT, Unexpected Result from Refrigerator

2017-04-10 Thread andy pugh
On 10 April 2017 at 16:37, Jon Elson wrote: > If the condenser pressure is too > low, you won't get any liquid at all, and the Carnot process > turns into a really ineffective Brayton (all gas) process. I am impressed that someone managed to come up with this cycle:

Re: [Emc-users] [LinuxCNC/linuxcnc] linuxcnc does not start with mesa board (#256)

2017-04-10 Thread Valerio Bellizzomi
On Mon, 2017-04-10 at 16:30 +0100, andy pugh wrote: > On 10 April 2017 at 15:52, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: > > Running the servo jitter test program shows a value of around 6000-7000, > > but the default is 100 ! > > That's because a 1mS servo thread is about right for

Re: [Emc-users] Way OT, Unexpected Result from Refrigerator

2017-04-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/10/2017 05:47 AM, Roland Jollivet wrote: > Intriguing. > But.. you can burn out the compressor if you run with no or little gas, as > the compressor itself cannot dissipate sufficient heat. It needs gas to > carry the heat away to the condensor. The condensor is part of the cooling > system

Re: [Emc-users] Way OT, Unexpected Result from Refrigerator

2017-04-10 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 04/09/2017 09:16 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: ... snip > It turns out, without adding more ice the cabinet actually got cooler by > 5 degrees. Uhh? ... snip Roland, Dave, Ray, thank you for your replies. We have had a neighbor in the HVAC business top up the R-12 and have gotten away with it

Re: [Emc-users] Way OT, Unexpected Result from Refrigerator

2017-04-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/09/2017 11:16 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: > I recently verified that the > thermostat works and that the compressor is basically on all of the > time. I got to thinking this is a waste of electricity for something > that barely works, Yes, you really should replace it. Refrigerators that are

Re: [Emc-users] [LinuxCNC/linuxcnc] linuxcnc does not start with mesa board (#256)

2017-04-10 Thread andy pugh
On 10 April 2017 at 15:52, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: > Running the servo jitter test program shows a value of around 6000-7000, > but the default is 100 ! That's because a 1mS servo thread is about right for most machines. Just about the only time that you would need to

Re: [Emc-users] [LinuxCNC/linuxcnc] linuxcnc does not start with mesa board (#256)

2017-04-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 10 April 2017 10:52:29 Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: > On Mon, 2017-04-10 at 15:46 +0200, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: > > Followup: the issue was in the servo jitter value. Looking at dmesg > > there are a consistent number of messages indicating that one cpu > > was stuck, and other messages

Re: [Emc-users] [LinuxCNC/linuxcnc] linuxcnc does not start with mesa board (#256)

2017-04-10 Thread Valerio Bellizzomi
On Mon, 2017-04-10 at 15:46 +0200, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: > Followup: the issue was in the servo jitter value. Looking at dmesg > there are a consistent number of messages indicating that one cpu was > stuck, and other messages about hm2. Now I have left the default > untouched and Axis starts.

Re: [Emc-users] Way OT, Unexpected Result from Refrigerator

2017-04-10 Thread jrmitchellj .
Likely the heat generated by the running compressor is what is heating the cabinet. Without refrigerant, no way to move the heat to the condenser. Ray --J. Ray Mitchell Jr. jrmitche...@gmail.com (818)324-7573 The dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is

Re: [Emc-users] [LinuxCNC/linuxcnc] linuxcnc does not start with mesa board (#256)

2017-04-10 Thread Valerio Bellizzomi
Followup: the issue was in the servo jitter value. Looking at dmesg there are a consistent number of messages indicating that one cpu was stuck, and other messages about hm2. Now I have left the default untouched and Axis starts. On Mon, 2017-04-10 at 14:50 +0200, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: >

Re: [Emc-users] Way OT, Unexpected Result from Refrigerator

2017-04-10 Thread Dave Cole
FWIW, the local utility will give me $100 for an old running fridge that is an energy waster. So cash in your old fridge that still "runs". And buy another off craigslist. :-) Dave On 4/10/2017 6:47 AM, Roland Jollivet wrote: > Intriguing. > But.. you can burn out the compressor if you run

[Emc-users] Doubt about mesa config

2017-04-10 Thread Valerio Bellizzomi
Hello, The mesa 6i25 has a W1 jumper, should it be enabled or disabled? -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot

Re: [Emc-users] [LinuxCNC/linuxcnc] linuxcnc does not start with mesa board (#256)

2017-04-10 Thread Valerio Bellizzomi
Ok then it should be some config issue, I will investigate further. On Mon, 2017-04-10 at 05:01 -0700, andypugh wrote: > The Mesa drivers are built-in to LinuxCNC, no extra config should be needed. > Can we move this to the forum? > > -- > You are receiving this because you authored the

[Emc-users] Way OT, Unexpected Result from Refrigerator

2017-04-10 Thread Roland Jollivet
Intriguing. But.. you can burn out the compressor if you run with no or little gas, as the compressor itself cannot dissipate sufficient heat. It needs gas to carry the heat away to the condensor. The condensor is part of the cooling system for the compressor.. Also, even while there is little

[Emc-users] old JA14 .. tedious problem cnt't do that emc_traj_enable_teleop ...

2017-04-10 Thread giorgio foga
I Have an old machine with Lcnc 2.8 and ja14 I use it for testing my comp modbus ... I tried in some way to remove this annoying error message than the TeleOp jumping out whenever I pause a program or that I finish a mdi command stand-alone I have not tried the component on my new

[Emc-users] halui.max-velocity ...

2017-04-10 Thread giorgio foga
using JA I try to send halui.max-velocity.decrease/increase trought modbus after more test I see it work well but the result is unespected for my config. With axis gui I have max-velocity slider that show 21mm/min max velocity ... it is ok ... but if I use setp halui.max-velocity.scale