Re: [Emc-users] 5i23 or 7i71
Thank you for your help. I don't know how the config got mixed up but I took care of the probe_parport and the watchdog issues. That led me down stream to the 7i71 issue. 5V was missing on the 7i71 so that was the second issue. The power outage took out my 5v converter. Thanks again-Now running 2.7.15 Is it worth upgrading to 2.8? I tend to use what "just works". Monday will be the real test when we put it back into production. Jeff Johnson john...@superiorroll.com Superior Roll & Turning 734-279-1831 -Original Message----- From: Jeff Johnson [mailto:john...@superiorroll.com] Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2023 10:05 AM To: 'emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net' Subject: 5i23 or 7i71 Making progress I think? What does the message below suggest? Bad 7i71? When I first turn the power supply on I get a red light on in the middle of the 5i23. After I try to start Linuxcnc I have no lights on the card at all. I am going to re-seat everything now. cinci12mo@cinci12mo:~$ linuxcnc LINUXCNC - 2.7.15 Machine configuration directory is '/home/cinci12mo/linuxcnc/configs' Machine configuration file is 'MEANGREEN.ini' Starting LinuxCNC... (time=1674917588.389042,pid=1975): Registering server on TCP port 5005. (time=1674917588.389150,pid=1975): running server for TCP port 5005 (connection_socket = 3). iocontrol: machine: '12MO' version 'unknown' Found file(REL): ./12mogmoccapymaster.hal ./12mogmoccapymaster.hal:69: Pin 'hm2_5i23.0.7i70.0.0.input-00' does not exist Shutting down and cleaning up LinuxCNC... (time=1674917589.857448,pid=1975): Deleting 5 channels from the NML_Main_Channel_List. (time=1674917589.857471,pid=1975): Deleting emcCommand NML channel from NML_Main_Channel_List. (time=1674917589.857480,pid=1975): deleting NML (1) (time=1674917589.857488,pid=1975): delete (CMS *) 0x95591e8; Jeff Johnson john...@superiorroll.com Superior Roll & Turning 734-279-1831 -- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2023 14:26:13 -0600 From: "Ray Henry" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller \(EMC\)" Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 201, Issue 48 Message-ID: <33f492d07d721faa9728369710665c5e.squir...@mail.fast-air.net> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 i have a bad habit you might try. Wiggle the connections. Unplug the PC. Don't just turn it off. Some of these setups have the ribbon connectors to the mesa card mashed up against a display card in the next slot. if those connectors are exposed all you have to do is pry the ends of the connector out about 50 thousandths and press them back. Then loosen the screw holding the mesa card into the pci slot and slip the card out a bit and then back in. Now move to the Mesa breakout boards and do the same with those ribbon connectors. Power up the pc and start emc as you usually do. if it fails again compare error messages and get back to us. I'll do a bit of digging here. > This config uses a 5i23- > Yes we left it up last night-We usually do, but not always. > > > > -- > ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] 5i23 or 7i71
Making progress I think? What does the message below suggest? Bad 7i71? When I first turn the power supply on I get a red light on in the middle of the 5i23. After I try to start Linuxcnc I have no lights on the card at all. I am going to re-seat everything now. cinci12mo@cinci12mo:~$ linuxcnc LINUXCNC - 2.7.15 Machine configuration directory is '/home/cinci12mo/linuxcnc/configs' Machine configuration file is 'MEANGREEN.ini' Starting LinuxCNC... (time=1674917588.389042,pid=1975): Registering server on TCP port 5005. (time=1674917588.389150,pid=1975): running server for TCP port 5005 (connection_socket = 3). iocontrol: machine: '12MO' version 'unknown' Found file(REL): ./12mogmoccapymaster.hal ./12mogmoccapymaster.hal:69: Pin 'hm2_5i23.0.7i70.0.0.input-00' does not exist Shutting down and cleaning up LinuxCNC... (time=1674917589.857448,pid=1975): Deleting 5 channels from the NML_Main_Channel_List. (time=1674917589.857471,pid=1975): Deleting emcCommand NML channel from NML_Main_Channel_List. (time=1674917589.857480,pid=1975): deleting NML (1) (time=1674917589.857488,pid=1975): delete (CMS *) 0x95591e8; Jeff Johnson john...@superiorroll.com Superior Roll & Turning 734-279-1831 -- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2023 14:26:13 -0600 From: "Ray Henry" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller \(EMC\)" Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 201, Issue 48 Message-ID: <33f492d07d721faa9728369710665c5e.squir...@mail.fast-air.net> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 i have a bad habit you might try. Wiggle the connections. Unplug the PC. Don't just turn it off. Some of these setups have the ribbon connectors to the mesa card mashed up against a display card in the next slot. if those connectors are exposed all you have to do is pry the ends of the connector out about 50 thousandths and press them back. Then loosen the screw holding the mesa card into the pci slot and slip the card out a bit and then back in. Now move to the Mesa breakout boards and do the same with those ribbon connectors. Power up the pc and start emc as you usually do. if it fails again compare error messages and get back to us. I'll do a bit of digging here. > This config uses a 5i23- > Yes we left it up last night-We usually do, but not always. > > > > -- > ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 201, Issue 48
This config uses a 5i23- Yes we left it up last night-We usually do, but not always. -- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2023 11:29:30 -0600 From: "Ray Henry" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller \(EMC\)" Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Not Starting Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 The output suggests that you upgraded from LINUXCNC 2.6.32-122 to LINUXCNC - 2.7.14 about five years ago and now it is trying to find a realtime kernel module that did not exist in the earlier install Do you leave this controller running all the time? There is some discussion about this in the 2.7.14 getting started files that might help. Is this a motherboard parport or an add in? > I could use some help here. Machine was fine yesterday, power outage > last night took the machine out. I was never that good with the > backend stuff and 8 years or so later I'm stuck trying to remember > what I didn't know. Any help would be apprecieated. > > Cinci12mo@cinci12mo:~$ linuxcnc > LINUXCNC - 2.7.14 > Machine configuration directory is '/home/cinci12mo/linuxcnc/configs' > Machine configuration file is 'MEANGREEN.ini' > Starting LinuxCNC... > (time=1674826242.755098,pid=6155): Registering server on TCP port 5005. > (time=1674826242.755202,pid=6155): running server for TCP port 5005 > (connection_socket = 3). > iocontrol: machine: '12MO' version 'unknown' > Found file(REL): ./12mogmoccapymaster.hal > ./12mogmoccapymaster.hal:3: Can't find module 'probe_parport' in > /usr/realtime-2.6.32-122-rtai/modules/linuxcnc > Shutting down and cleaning up LinuxCNC... > > > Jeff Johnson > john...@superiorroll.com > Superior Roll & Turning > 734-279-1831 > > > ** ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Not Starting
I could use some help here. Machine was fine yesterday, power outage last night took the machine out. I was never that good with the backend stuff and 8 years or so later I'm stuck trying to remember what I didn't know. Any help would be apprecieated. Cinci12mo@cinci12mo:~$ linuxcnc LINUXCNC - 2.7.14 Machine configuration directory is '/home/cinci12mo/linuxcnc/configs' Machine configuration file is 'MEANGREEN.ini' Starting LinuxCNC... (time=1674826242.755098,pid=6155): Registering server on TCP port 5005. (time=1674826242.755202,pid=6155): running server for TCP port 5005 (connection_socket = 3). iocontrol: machine: '12MO' version 'unknown' Found file(REL): ./12mogmoccapymaster.hal ./12mogmoccapymaster.hal:3: Can't find module 'probe_parport' in /usr/realtime-2.6.32-122-rtai/modules/linuxcnc Shutting down and cleaning up LinuxCNC... Jeff Johnson john...@superiorroll.com Superior Roll & Turning 734-279-1831 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 170, Issue 168
Chris Albertson Wrote: "Surprisingly Onshape is very fast. You might think that a browser-based 3D CAD would be sluggish but Onshape on my Linux system is MUCH faster than Fusion360 on my iMac.The comparison is slightly un-fair because my Linux PC is a 16-core Xeon with 64GB RAM, and Nvidia GPU card while my iMac is an older 4-core i5. But it is not unfair because this shows that Onshape can take advantage of higher-end graphics and faster CPUs." https://mecsoft.com/visualcamc/ We have had good results with the Stand alone VisualCam. I see they offer it for Onshape. Not free but effective. Jeff Johnson john...@superiorroll.com Superior Roll & Turning 734-279-1831 * ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Rotary Head
Ok.Thanks guys I see there are simpler ways to go now. I'm a machinist forced into being a control guy at times. Jeff Johnson john...@superiorroll.com Superior Roll & Turning 734-279-1831 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Rotary Head
Correct Todd..One is a Milacron 850SX and the Okuma has a Numatix control someone retrofitted before I got it. I think maybe some of the machines he wants to use it on might not be running Linuxcnc. Todd Zuercher P. Graham Dunn Inc. 630 Henry Street? Dalton, Ohio 44618 Phone:? (330)828-2105ext. 2031 -Original Message- From: Andy Pugh mailto:bodge...@gmail.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 10:24 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) mailto:emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Rotary Head [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Be sure links are safe. > On 20 Feb 2020, at 14:25, Jeff Johnson mailto:john...@superiorroll.com> > wrote: > > > Any thoughts or ideas on the best way to pull this off? PC? RPi4? Which Why not add a 4th axis configuration to each machine that might use it? Then you can properly integrate the motion control? You can actually do it with a single config. I have a jumper in one of the connectors that the rotary connects through. If the system doesn?t see the link (via an IO pin) it doesn?t enable the axis. Mine actually f-errors if you try to move the axis, but that would be easy to fix. Jeff Johnson john...@superiorroll.com Superior Roll & Turning 734-279-1831 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360
The free cad cam options just don't seem to work for us, Clunky is what comes to mind plus no ability to handle other formats. I do admire the people that can Live in that realm. I have a crew of 10-12 guy's and getting everyone on the same page is tough as they all have opinions. Retro-fitted 4 machines to LinuxCNC and four years later they make parts everyday but there is still a stigma of free And homebrewed that hangs over the controls, especially with new guys. I should mention I just had a Retro-fit of a Deckle Maho DMU 80P, had MS-Tech come in and hang their control on it. It's not Fanuc, Fagor, Heidenhain or ProtoTrak and I am sure it will carry the same stigma. Back to fusion should clarify that I am a job shop and we have to open customer drawings and prints in many different formats. Life may or may not be easier if we were only working on our own files making and controlling every process >From design to manufacture. The other thing, is I need at least three seats of Cad and at least two seats of Cam. The cost of Fusion at $495 a seat looks pretty good to me balanced against the maintenance fees I am already paying 2 seats of Alibre (for making drawings from Customer Solids) 1 seat of Visual Cam (3D mill work) 3 seats ProgeCad (is a bargain, great Autocad clone in my opinion) no maintenance fees just buy seats. 3 seats of ShopCam (very reasonable and great for turning and 2d milling) Knowing I can save back-ups locally may be the answer. Will I be held hostage? Maybe, but there is the possibility that I can migrate to one system over time. My real needs are the ability to make and open 2D drawings as well as solids and generate trouble free tool paths. Jeff Johnson john...@superiorroll.com Superior Roll & Turning 734-279-1831 One comment.The Fusion 360 files to not "hold you hostage" I routinely same my work in *.STEP file format Fusion can use any of about a half dozen industry standard files formats. And can read and write the native format of it's competitors. DOn't work abut file formats. Fusion is a good tol to use to convert from one file type to another. Plans are in the works to allow Fusion to natively edit competitor's files with no conversion needed Yes, I keep the backup design files on my own computer and I do like to keep the backups in at least two different file formats. I keep my work saved to both Fusiion's format and *.STEP Fusion is about the ONLY reasonably priced (free) option if your product looks like this: Below is from a Fusion tutorial where they show you how to make the yellow plastic shell and grey rubber over-mold and the mechanical parts that turn the motor's rotary motion to back and forth saw motion and also how to make a simulation and animated video of the moving parts. You are NOT going to make a saw like this in FreeCAD or and you are NOT going to hand code the g-code files. Yes you can actually build stuff like this saw in a home shop.What I want is a robot vacuum cleaner that can do stairs all by itself at night.The hard part is no longer the mechanics, It is the motion planning software. [image: sawzall-v19-v13-v6-3500-3500.jpg] On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 3:54 PM Lester Caine wrote: -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: sawzall-v19-v13-v6-3500-3500.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 108324 bytes Desc: not available ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Fusion 360
Anyone on here have opinions on Fusion 360 Cad/Cam by Autodesk? Using ShopCam for simple 2.5D work, VisualCam for 3 or more axis work, using Alibre Cad for 3D Drwaing and creation as well as ProgeCad for 2D Drawings. With this combo there is not much we can't handle but maintenance agreements and updates do get cumbersome. I am worried about moving to the cloud based system but I guess it's the future. What are this groups thoughts if any? Jeff Johnson john...@superiorroll.com Superior Roll & Turning 734-279-1831 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Black Tuesday
Still have this rotary...I think it's too big for most on the list. Offer still stands first $100.00 you have to pick it up or pay for shipping, I will load it for free. <https://www.dropbox.com/sh/wpmh6muzv8sstne/AADmUPJDCqp1XVVXcc102TKwa?dl=0> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/wpmh6muzv8sstne/AADmUPJDCqp1XVVXcc102TKwa?dl=0 Jeff Johnson john...@superiorroll.com Superior Roll & Turning 734-279-1831 -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Gene's Rotary
I have a small two axis rotary here that I will donate to Gene. You can make a 5 axis mill! It may be too big for you but I will dig it out and snap some pics next to a tape measure. If Gene does not want it I will let it go to the first offer of $100.00 to anyone on the list. Let me know if anyone has any interest. I sold the mill I was going to use it on so it just sits on a pallet collecting dust. Jeff Johnson john...@superiorroll.com Superior Roll & Turning 734-279-1831 I am half-heartedly looking for a rotary table, smallish but without any huge backlash, for use on the g0704. A 4" chuck would hold most of what I might do. I have one now, but backlash is relatively huge and variable because the bull gear is eccentric, and it hasn't a working well enough as a clamp facility to hold against cutting forces. Best I've been able to do is draw the bolt down, and injecting air at 100 psi or so into the seat to unlock it enough that a 225 oz motor can turn it. That of course drives the grease out of the central bearing too. Gotta be a better way. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> * -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 131, Issue 103
Did you let the job out? Jeff Johnson john...@superiorroll.com Superior Roll & Turning 734-279-1831 -Original Message- From: emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net] Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:31 PM To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Emc-users Digest, Vol 131, Issue 103 Send Emc-users mailing list submissions to emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net You can reach the person managing the list at emc-users-ow...@lists.sourceforge.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Emc-users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Documentaion Question / Addition (Joe Hildreth) 2. Re: Milling setup question (andy pugh) 3. Re: Documentaion Question / Addition (Gene Heskett) 4. Re: Milling setup question (Gene Heskett) 5. Re: Milling setup question (Drew Rogge) 6. I am back to fighting with G2/3 again (Gene Heskett) -- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2017 09:44:48 -0500 (CDT) From: Joe Hildreth <j...@threerivershospital.com> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Documentaion Question / Addition To: emc-users <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> Message-ID: <954469815.214679.1490971488617.javamail.zim...@threerivershospital.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Gene, I commented out the following variables: [EMCMOT] section COMM_TIMEOUT = 1.0 COMM_WAIT = 0.010 [TRAJ] section CYCLE_TIME = 0.010 Fired up the machine with the link on the desktop and didn't see any warnings or anything through the axis gui. Was able to jog all three axis of the machine. I didn't have time before leaving for work to do any more testing. (After reading your response a second time, I see you also removed the CYCLE_TIME for [EMCIO]. That was not one I was asking about because I found it in the INI documentation. although I see your point.) My setup is parport driven stepper system with configs created by stepconf using the axis gui. I launched the controller with the link that stepconf placed on the destop. Should I be starting it from command line to see the error you have or something else? John suggest I open an issue on this but want to make sure I am not including something that I shouldn't or vice versa before I do. Regards. Joe Hildreth > > Interesting comment, John K. > > So I fired up the editor and took both CYCLE_TIME settings in the .ini > file out of the ini file for my small mill. > > On running it, trajectory did not complain, but emcio did, saying it > was useing the default timing of .01 seconds, same as the ini file setting. > That did not prevent it from running. So I restored that one, but left > it commented out in the [TRAJ] section. > > Based on that, the [TRAJ] section CYCLE_TIME could probably go away. > > But does changing the one in [EMCIO] actually do anything in the way > of optimizing things better when generating motor steps in software? > Or conversely in a 5i25 or work-alike card where there is not a base > thread? > > Whomever has kicked those "tires" recently should be able to comment. > Adding to the wiki files under EMCIO would also be a nice clarification. > -- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2017 16:35:32 +0100 From: andy pugh <bodge...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Milling setup question To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> Message-ID: <CAN1+YZVJMbQPAqT-KW=aksubbh4akqhxcuxmatpgsrtlqqz...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 31 March 2017 at 14:45, Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> wrote: > > Humm, does that boring head have an automatic feed per rev? Yes, it's one of my Wohlhaupters. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." ? George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1916 -- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2017 11:48:36 -0400 From: Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Documentaion Question / Addition To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: <201703311148.36230.ghesk...@shentel.net> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Friday 31 March 2017 10:44:48 Joe Hildreth wrote: > Gene, > > I commented out the following variables: > > [EMCMOT] section > COMM_TIMEOUT = 1.0 > COMM_WAIT = 0.010 > > [TRAJ] section > CYCLE_TIME = 0
Re: [Emc-users] Affordable, used lathes
I have found some incredible deals at HGR Surplus. hgrinc.com Jeff Johnson john...@superiorroll.com Superior Roll & Turning 734-279-1831 -- Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications Manager Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple tiers of your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Information for spindle and drive Kollmorgen Ind
** Hello, We have a machining center Cincinnati Milacron Arrow 750. The control of the machine is out of service and we will change it. I am searching information on the spindle motor and drive: High performance induction motor Model: 1-604-0006 Serie: 98F286-77 27A 3.7 KW Kollmorgen Ind or Cincinnati SPINDLE DRIVE 30AMP VFS5 Model VFS523000203A Series: 230 / 203AC-042 rev 4.0 Kollmorgen Ind or Cincinnati Can you give me the technical documentation? *I am searching primarily voltage frequency curve**?* Best regards, Pierre *** If you have the SX 850 control on your mill I am not sure I would give up on that. We have several and they are overall a bullet proof control. The rubber buttons are the only weakness but can be fixed. The 2100 control is Okay too but Hard drive issues have popped up now and again but easily fixed. I am not trying to push you away from Linux CNC (we run four machines with it) just pointing out I have very few issues with the Milacron controls. Jeff Johnson john...@superiorroll.com Superior Roll & Turning 734-279-1831 -- Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151=/4140 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Working Mill
Sorry about that http://www.ebay.com/itm/121693122922?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984 .m1558.l2649 Jeff Johnson john...@superiorroll.com Superior Roll Turning 734-279-1831 http://my.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MyEbayBetaCurrentPage=MyeBayNextSelling ssPageName=STRK:ME:LNLK:MESEX This seems to link to the personal selling page of the viewer. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- -- Don't Limit Your Business. Reach for the Cloud. GigeNET's Cloud Solutions provide you with the tools and support that you need to offload your IT needs and focus on growing your business. Configured For All Businesses. Start Your Cloud Today. https://www.gigenetcloud.com/ -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users End of Emc-users Digest, Vol 111, Issue 4 * -- Don't Limit Your Business. Reach for the Cloud. GigeNET's Cloud Solutions provide you with the tools and support that you need to offload your IT needs and focus on growing your business. Configured For All Businesses. Start Your Cloud Today. https://www.gigenetcloud.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Working Mill
Here is what I believe to be a nice solid mill with a NMTB 40 Taper. Would make a great retrofit candidate I even have a 2axis rotary I would sell with it to make it a five axis machine. I would let the package go to someone on the list for $4300.00 http://my.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MyEbayBeta http://my.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MyEbayBetaCurrentPage=MyeBayNextSellin gssPageName=STRK:ME:LNLK:MESEX CurrentPage=MyeBayNextSellingssPageName=STRK:ME:LNLK:MESEX If I am out of line posting this to the list let me know and it won't happen again. Jeff Johnson john...@superiorroll.com Superior Roll Turning 734-279-1831 -- Don't Limit Your Business. Reach for the Cloud. GigeNET's Cloud Solutions provide you with the tools and support that you need to offload your IT needs and focus on growing your business. Configured For All Businesses. Start Your Cloud Today. https://www.gigenetcloud.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] . Re: LCNC VS Machinekit JWP (Niemand Sonst)
Norbert Wrote: I do not understand what you are doing? I have done this with a comp long time ago, it is only a displacement between commanded position and feedback, am I right? This is not solving the missing feature in linuxcnc, IMHO it is only a very, very basic work around. A user must be able to push PAUSE, than take his jog Wheel or even the jog button from the GUI, move around like he wish and if he push resume, the machine should start at the position he paused the program. IMHO that is not solved. But that is exactly the feature users want. Please explain very in detail, how you this component will be used on a real machine! Clicking very small button with a mouse? Or do we need an extra panel? What about the keyboard shortcuts, what about my hardware button? Norbert You are my hero Norbert but at this point we will take anything. Really hoping for a real jog while paused solution and you are correct in the fact that mouses on the shop floor are non existant. Jeff Johnson john...@superiorroll.com Superior Roll Turning 734-279-1831 -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] LCNC VS Machinekit JWP
Last week I started a post about larger machines and parts and working around jog while paused being missing in LCNC and I had enough posts showing me that Machinekit does indeed have the jog while paused. So we went over there to check it out yes they have it and we played with it on the sim and thought maybe we would make the switch. We have come to find out that Machine kit does not (readily) support the 7i80 Ethernet set-up we are running. Really had no desire to make the switch but it would have been worth it to have a jog while paused option. Looks like we will be staying on LCNC and trying to play with any options that come our way using LCNC and gmoccapy. Just updating the followers of the jog while paused saga..LOL All of this may be easier if we understood the working of the code both Linux and LCNC we are learning but it is a steep curve. Jeff Johnson john...@superiorroll.com Superior Roll Turning 734-279-1831 -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LCNC VS Machinekit JWP
:Sebastian Kuzminsky Wrote Dewey Garrett is working on a version of JWP for LinuxCNC. It's very different from what Machine kit is doing, and has different limitations. It's implemented as a HAL circuit, so it's minimally invasive, so i'm hoping to merge it for LinuxCNC 2.7. Here's the demo he posted this morning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QGOj39I-kk We will be using it as long as it will work in Gmoccapy..Thanks Jeff Johnson john...@superiorroll.com Superior Roll Turning 734-279-1831 -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] was larger machines now jog while paused (andy pugh)
What is the difference in this patch? Where the retract moves are actually controlled by the keyboard. Everything is in axis and I suspect more higher end users are using some form of Gscreen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNuu_D4X_EM It may be the same thing when I watched the other video it looked like the tool retracted automatically when the pause was activated. Jeff Johnson john...@superiorroll.com Superior Roll Turning 734-279-1831 -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] was larger machines now jog while paused
I have been experimenting with the JWP from Machinekit in LinuxCNC. On the stock LinuxCNC 2.6.4 source in git I downloaded https://github.com/mhaberler/machinekit/commit/6b0aaf39b81cc6507de41b5a 74a6b0414744ea38.patch And applied it with git am -3 6b0aaf39b81cc6507de41b5a74a6b0414744ea38.patch Then recompiled. Then in a lathe config, by setting the new hal-pins motion.pause-offset-x 1 motion.pause-offset-x 1 Looks like the above line should have said z, not x ;-) motion.pause-jog-feed 1 motion.pause-offet-enable 1 I get the behaviour shown here: http://youtu.be/mSx2zIUWVzQ I would like to see keyboard or jog wheel control only because tools like boring bars and face groovers will need completely different retract schemes. I know it goes back to the ice water in hell statement. I am hoping something reasonable is found and I will test. We are doing our first mill retrofit and I believe that the ability to stop, turn spindle and coolant off, move work out of the way of the tool to check something and return to the cut is mandatory. I understand If I want it badly enough I better learn the ability to code (not going to happen) and I do appreciate the people who contribute to this project but I am starting to think that the people running larger work and longer programs will get to the point that restarting the program even if you use run from line (mistakes are made) will become too cumbersome to overcome. Nobody forced me down the path of LCNC and it has been fun Three turning centers making parts is a bonus but we are losing tremendous amounts of time on larger parts because of this missing feature. I will be trying the patches if we can figure out how to apply them LOL...We are not Linus experts either. Jeff Johnson john...@superiorroll.com Superior Roll Turning 734-279-1831 -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Question for larger machine users of LCNC
This is a question for people using LCNC on larger machine tools. We have been patiently waiting for jog while paused and it does not look like we are getting it anytime soon. My question is how are others working around this? For instance I am working on a job machining gears with hardened teeth and we have to remove .250 form one face, roughing insert lasts about 2/3 of the way through the roughing program and we have to rotate the insert. Feed hold leaves us in a position too close to the part to change the insert. Our only solution is to exit program and move tool away to rotate insert and restart program from the beginning and cut air until we get back into the cut. We try to run from line but even if we call constant surface feed in our MDI spindle start the spindle runs at the cap RPM. Jeff Johnson john...@superiorroll.com Superior Roll Turning 734-279-1831 -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] . Re: Question for larger machine users of LCNC
John Kasunick wrote This doesn't directly answer your question about jog-while-paused, but I'm curious about the specific use case you describe. How do you decide when to change the insert? Do you wait until it chips or starts cutting poorly? Or do you always change it at the same point because you know it won't last all the way through? We let the insert go as long as possible usually..ceramic inserts will start to notch on the interrupted cut (60-62 Rc) if we can make it all of the way through we will and let the finish tool clean it up. If you wait for it to chip or stop cutting properly, it seems to me that it isn't good enough to simply pause, jog away, change the insert, jog back, and resume. Don't you have to actually back up in the program a bit and re-machine the area that was improperly cut? Not really on roughing cuts. We always use a fresh tool on finish cuts to make sure any sins get covered up. On the other hand, if you have decided to always change the insert at the 2/3 mark just to be safe, then can't you simply program the change in the g-code? At the end of a pass, rapid over to a safe spot, stop the spindle, and do the change. Then start the next pass. See above... not always the case. In a production situation this would work in our case we are running 8 pieces of this particular job and that is a lot for us. Jeff Johnson john...@superiorroll.com Superior Roll Turning 734-279-1831 -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] question for users of LCNC on larger machine tools
We have also tried invoking G96 and starting our spindle in MDI and then run from line but for some reason it just runs at the commanded s rpm in our case we are trying to run 800 surface feet but we are getting 800 RPM instead. When the G96 is invoked from the program everything works just fine. Jeff Johnson john...@superiorroll.com Superior Roll Turning 734-279-1831 -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Question for larger machine users of LCNC
From: Ed ate...@mwt.net mailto:ate...@mwt.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Question for larger machine users of LCNC To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: 546f5312.6050...@mwt.net mailto:546f5312.6050...@mwt.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 11/21/2014 08:40 AM, Jeff Johnson wrote: This is a question for people using LCNC on larger machine tools. We have been patiently waiting for jog while paused and it does not look like we are getting it anytime soon. My question is how are others working around this? For instance I am working on a job machining gears with hardened teeth and we have to remove .250 form one face, roughing insert lasts about 2/3 of the way through the roughing program and we have to rotate the insert. Feed hold leaves us in a position too close to the part to change the insert. Our only solution is to exit program and move tool away to rotate insert and restart program from the beginning and cut air until we get back into the cut. We try to run from line but even if we call constant surface feed in our MDI spindle start the spindle runs at the cap RPM. If it is a consistent amount and predictable wear, one QD solution is to program to rough to half the amount, stop spindle, move tool, M1 to pause, change insert, S to restart, move tool back and restart cut. On a similar note, I have a lathe with a 6T Fanuc control. It will let you pause, move tool, do whatever, and restart cut, The caveat is that the tool has to be moved back to the EXACT position that you moved it from at pause. Ed. Every control (Cincinnati, Heidenhain, Fagor) we have in the shop has this ability except LCNC I have 9 Turning centers and 6 CNC mills. I understand free comes at a cost LOL...I currently have three Turning centers running LCNC and a vertical machining center in process of getting LCNC and I just bought a couple of VTL's with Fanuc 6T controls that will be retrofitted with something. I am running big work and insert and or cutter failures are common. Constant and predictable just does not come to light in our job shop environment I am sure it would in a production situation and I would gladly program around it. I am grateful to have found this software and glad we took the time tackle the learning curve as we are better off for it but as I said earlier there is a cost to pay and in our case this is one of them. Even if we could call up our spindle parameters in MDI and run from line (being very careful) it would be much better but as I pointed out in another post the G96 is for some reason ignored from MDI even though the flag does come up. Jeff Johnson john...@superiorroll.com Superior Roll Turning 734-279-1831 -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] was larger machines now jog while paused
Pete Wrote If you read that HAAS control description of how their Run, stop, jog, continue works it seems to be pretty logical to me. It simply requires the OP to after he has jogged to wherever he need to jog back to a position CLOSE to where the pause happened initially and then hit a key and the machine then takes over jogging at 5% speed to the original position. This seems like a good idea and easier to get the machine to do. You will note that it does not allow for TLO changes which while important are not super critical in my view and apparently theirs too. The changing of an insert while typically not perfect should not change the offset that much and I guess it is understood that you would not want to do this on a critical dimension of a finish pass. It would sure be nice tho. Either way just having the ability to raise the millhead and turn the spindle and coolant on and off to take a quick measurement or inspect progress would be a big deal for me. Peace Pete Most of our controls have the ability to feed override the jog speed. There has been a move to get away from this in lcnc and this is an example why we still want the option. Heading back into a cut you can have control over that speed. Jeff Johnson john...@superiorroll.com Superior Roll Turning 734-279-1831 -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Fest
I am offering my shop. Located 13 Miles north of Toledo, Ohio. We are an active user of LinuxCNC not really developers, but would love to help in the process. Lake Erie is close by and the Islands can be a fun diversion as well as Cedar Point for an excuse to bring the family. Currently have three machining centers running Linux and looking to convert a mill. At 13,000 Square feet I am not huge but we can find the room as needed. Jeff Johnson john...@superiorroll.com Superior Roll Turning 734-279-1831 -Original Message- From: emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 3:52 AM To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Emc-users Digest, Vol 97, Issue 62 Send Emc-users mailing list submissions to emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net You can reach the person managing the list at emc-users-ow...@lists.sourceforge.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Emc-users digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Running EMC on older computers (jeremy youngs) 2. Re: Running EMC on older computers (Ralph Stirling) 3. Re: fest (Jon Elson) 4. Re: Running EMC on older computers (Jon Elson) 5. Re: fest (jeremy youngs) 6. Re: Running EMC on older computers (Gregg Eshelman) 7. Re: fest (Chris Kelley) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 20:09:20 -0400 From: jeremy youngs jcyoung...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Running EMC on older computers To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: CA+Mq1eQ=jvgwev_1hepntw8rtpkqcf9kqyhnrmg3ag3kfu6...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 im running a 720, had an old 240 but never used it for lcnc jeremy youngs On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 7:53 PM, Gregg Eshelman g_ala...@yahoo.com wrote: On 5/19/2014 5:36 PM, jeremy youngs wrote: second on the optiplex How about a OptiPlex GX240? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 00:27:03 + From: Ralph Stirling ralph.stirl...@wallawalla.edu Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Running EMC on older computers To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: 7pdimk0matmxc2r9gyjs8j0l.1400545638...@email.android.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I use GX270's successfully, but I didn't care much for running with 260's, so if a 240 is much slower than a 260 I'd keep looking. -- Ralph Gregg Eshelman g_ala...@yahoo.com wrote: On 5/19/2014 5:36 PM, jeremy youngs wrote: second on the optiplex How about a OptiPlex GX240? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Message: 3 Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 19:54:26 -0500 From: Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com Subject: Re: [Emc-users] fest To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: 537aa7c2.8060...@pico-systems.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 05/16/2014 10:09 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: Guys, Is there anything planned for this summer? OK, I made a vague offer of a get together in the Missouri Ozarks some time ago. BUT -- my friend's nephew went out to the cabin in January, turned on the water system and had pipes blow. I'm afraid he may not have drained the whole system and put antifreeze
Re: [Emc-users] Fest
Sorry about the last post.I lurk and don't post too much forgot to delete a bunch of it. And a correction: We are currently running three Turning centers on LCNC not machining centers Jeff Johnson john...@superiorroll.com Superior Roll Turning 734-279-1831 -- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 07:58:50 -0400 From: Jeff Johnson john...@superiorroll.com Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Fest To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: 003201cf7422$dfb69a30$9f23ce90$@superiorroll.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am offering my shop. Located 13 Miles north of Toledo, Ohio. We are an active user of LinuxCNC not really developers, but would love to help in the process. Lake Erie is close by and the Islands can be a fun diversion as well as Cedar Point for an excuse to bring the family. Currently have three machining centers running Linux and looking to convert a mill. At 13,000 Square feet I am not huge but we can find the room as needed. Jeff Johnson john...@superiorroll.com Superior Roll Turning 734-279-1831 * -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Fwd: RE: Fanuc Style Offsets
-- Forwarded message -- From: Jeff Johnson john...@superiorroll.com Date: Nov 1, 2013 4:52 PM Subject: RE: Fanuc Style Offsets To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: We are using GScreen. We will lose the ability to read any of the tool data and have to make a new tool table with new data entered and re-apply before Linuxcnc can recognize the tool. Returns a message Tool not available we then either re-apply or in extreme cases have to make a new tool table because it will not read any of the data for any tool. What version of linuxcnc are you using? Using Master 2.6 Pre and we are editing the tool table with tooledit. What does your tool table look like? I attached a copy of my tool table mytool.tbl Description: Binary data -- Android is increasing in popularity, but the open development platform that developers love is also attractive to malware creators. Download this white paper to learn more about secure code signing practices that can help keep Android apps secure. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=65839951iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Fanuc style offsets
I am wondering if anybody on the list is using the fanuc style offset patch? We are using it with Gscreen and it works great 90% of the time. There are times however that Linuxcnc will not recognize the tool with out re-applying the data or in extreme cases we have to make a whole new tool table and re enter all of the tool data for every tool. Any thoughts? -- Android is increasing in popularity, but the open development platform that developers love is also attractive to malware creators. Download this white paper to learn more about secure code signing practices that can help keep Android apps secure. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=65839951iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc Style offsets
We are using a system for lathe tools using a T word with the tool number and offset together in one number. I haven't had any trouble with it, so far. What user interface are you using? We are using GScreen. We will lose the ability to read any of the tool data and have to make a new tool table with new data entered and re-apply before Linuxcnc can recognize the tool. Returns a message Tool not available we then either re-apply or in extreme cases have to make a new tool table because it will not read any of the data for any tool. -- Android is increasing in popularity, but the open development platform that developers love is also attractive to malware creators. Download this white paper to learn more about secure code signing practices that can help keep Android apps secure. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=65839951iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc Style Offsets
We are using GScreen. We will lose the ability to read any of the tool data and have to make a new tool table with new data entered and re-apply before Linuxcnc can recognize the tool. Returns a message Tool not available we then either re-apply or in extreme cases have to make a new tool table because it will not read any of the data for any tool. What version of linuxcnc are you using? Using Master 2.6 Pre and we are editing the tool table with tooledit. What does your tool table look like? I attached a copy of my tool table mytool.tbl Description: Binary data -- Android is increasing in popularity, but the open development platform that developers love is also attractive to malware creators. Download this white paper to learn more about secure code signing practices that can help keep Android apps secure. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=65839951iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] jog while paused
I think most of us want jog while paused, while I don't' have a need to change a tool, re-probe and resume cutting in a jog while paused situation I can understand why someone would want it. I think we should start with the basics, spindle stop and restart, ability to move axis or axis's of your choice and return to the part at the point of the feed hold call or pause. There will always be some aspect of this that makes the operator responsible to give the tool a clear path back to the point of the pause. The control can not think this through for you. In other words, Feed hold, retract tool manually to a position that will have a clear return to the stop point. Have the ability to stop the spindle and restart to the same constant surface setting you paused at(lathe) and return to cutting conditions you paused at. Jeff L Johnson Superior Roll Turning Superiorroll.com 734-279-1831 Fax 279-1166 -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60133471iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Wichita LinuxCNC meeting (Stuart Stevenson)
How would Michigan sound for a meeting? I only have two lathes up and running at the moment but I hope to have three and maybe a mill with a fourth axis up by next spring. I do not have a lot to offer as far as development knowledge but I am ready to help in any way possible. Jeff Johnson superiorroll.com Gentlemen, I think annual meetings are nice for everyone. A small developer/integrator meeting would be useful but if our annual meeting is understood to be a developer/integrator meeting then we won't have disappointed attendees. I believe people new to the LinuxCNC world benefit greatly by attending the developer/integrator meetings. Getting to know everyone is a great benefit. You learn a lot by listening and watching. All of the developers are available for questions from time to time and are very willing to answer questions. Just don't expect classes and organized events. The organized event is the meeting. That being said, I think it would be nice to have the meeting at another place next year - not that I mind hosting but a different venue will make it more convenient for some and possibly more interesting for all. Lacking a date and place by Nov 1 2013 I will set a date to have the meeting in Wichita next year. This time we will post it in all places so more can see it and plan for it. Any suggestions on the date are welcome. Maybe this message should be posted everywhere also. thanks Stuart -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC week at MPM/SFI
What are the dates for sure? The 21st thru the 23rd? Jeff Johnson Superior Roll Turning On 04/02/2013 07:01 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: Gentlemen, Just a reminder about the week of June 17th. Give me an idea if you think you may come to Wichita that weekend. It would be nice to have an idea of how many could be here. I will set up for however many wish to be here. Looking forward to seeing everyone. -- Minimize network downtime and maximize team effectiveness. Reduce network management and security costs.Learn how to hire the most talented Cisco Certified professionals. Visit the Employer Resources Portal http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/employer_resources/index.html ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Re Value of Lathe vs Mill
I had a disagreement with my employee today. I said that a retrofitted CNC milling machine, like my Bridgeport Interact, is supremely useful as a shop tool, but a CNC lathe has very little usefulness. I felt that there is not really much that one can do with a CNC lathe. He disagreed, but could not offer specifics. I want to see what you think, is a CNC lathe all that useful for someone who is nota job shop or a manufacturing operation. I had to chime in. A lathe is the only machine tool that can reproduce itself I read that somewhere a long time ago. That being said I can't imagine a shop without both but given the chance I would pick the lathe every time because the metal removal rate is so much better in a lathe than a mill. I do a ton of square and rectangle parts in our turning centers using 4 jaw chucks. If I can turn it I will, but I have 7 Turning centers with fairly big capacities. Chucks from 8 inches to 28 inches. My next step is to find a live tool turret machine so I can start cutting keyways, flats and bolt circles right in the lathe. Jeff L Johnson Superior Roll Turning Superiorroll.com 734-279-1831 Fax 279-1166 -- Symantec Endpoint Protection 12 positioned as A LEADER in The Forrester Wave(TM): Endpoint Security, Q1 2013 and remains a good choice in the endpoint security space. For insight on selecting the right partner to tackle endpoint security challenges, access the full report. http://p.sf.net/sfu/symantec-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Ideal Tool Table
I wasn't saying that that's the way it does work, instead asking if that's the way it should work (as opposed to another INI flag. Rogge Daniel, I am not complaining. I agree with you the wear offsets should follow the flag in LCNC G7/G8. I would love to see work done in this area. To be honest your patch is the only reason I went ahead and started the second lathe retrofit in my shop. It is the way machines are controlled by a machinist. To keep changing the geometry offset to make a good part would not work in a commercial shop. Thanks for your work in this area. Jeff Johnson On Nov 7, 2012 4:35 PM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: Send Emc-users mailing list submissions to emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net You can reach the person managing the list at emc-users-ow...@lists.sourceforge.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Emc-users digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Ideal Tool Table (Jeff Johnson) 2. Re: Text on rounded button. (Gene Heskett) 3. Re: Text on rounded button. (Jack Coats) 4. Re: Text on rounded button. (Erik Friesen) 5. Re: Ideal Tool Table (Daniel Rogge) 6. Re: What should I do to get the performance back? (Jim Coleman) 7. Re: Text on rounded button. (Gene Heskett) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 15:27:23 -0500 From: Jeff Johnson john...@superiorroll.com Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Ideal Tool Table To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: 509ac437.aa01320a.7b87.8...@mx.google.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Perhaps instead of an INI flag the interpreter should simply look at the current G7/G8 mode? Would this do what you're looking for? Daniel I am using your patch on our turning center in diameter mode. The wear offsets still have to be entered in Radius or half Jeff L Johnson Superior Roll Turning Superiorroll.com 734-279-1831 Fax 279-1166 -- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 15:36:41 -0500 From: Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Text on rounded button. To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: 201211071536.41292.ghesk...@wdtv.com Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=windows-1256 On Wednesday 07 November 2012 14:51:47 Lars Kruse did opine: Hi, I am trying the PyCam, it loaded an stl. Then I created text, the stl disappeared. So I reloaded the stl, then the text is gone. I must be missing some basics. yes - sorry - this detail was hidden in the article :) The last release of PyCAM could only handle one model at a time - that's why you can't see both at the same moment. Just checkout the latest development branch and run it - this is a matter of seconds since you already installed all requirements (except git): git clone git://pycam.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pycam/pycam cd pycam scripts/pycam I hope this helps ... Lars I think you are getting there, Lars. I did the git pull into /home/gene/src, generating the pycam directory there without any hiccups. I need to explore it further,but that it seemed to be faster at rendering than the last time I looked. Its also the first time I've seen gkrellm report all 4 cores of this phenom quite well pegged out while it was rendering a tool path. The screen I ran it from did report some errors that appeared not to be show stoppers: The text I had entered in the text entry box was 'Now' Failed to locate the fonts directory 'fonts' below '['/usr/lib/pymodules/share', '/usr/local/share/pycam', '/usr/share/pycam']'. Falling back to '/usr/share/librecad/fonts, /usr/share/qcad/fonts'. Font directory: /usr/share/qcad/fonts CFXImporter: Skipped font defintion file '/usr/share/qcad/fonts/kochigothic.cxf'. Reason: Failed to parse character at line 7064. *** skipped 1 similar message(s) *** CXFImporter: Imported CXF font from '/usr/share/qcad/fonts/normal.cxf': 101 letters *** skipped 16 similar message(s) *** CFXImporter: Skipped font defintion file '/usr/share/qcad/fonts/unicode.cxf'. Reason: Failed to parse character at line 3008. Not being an accomplished graphics geek with inkscape or any of the cad programs, although I do stay up to date with freecad, I am encouraged by what I see here. My goal at some point, is to come up with a coin pattern for a Round TUIT coin that I can make a few copies of on my toy mill for selected friends, from flat ALU bar. The engraver filler crayon I saw a few days ago would come in handy for that project also. I had such a coin, stamped burned into maple, in the 60's
[Emc-users] Ideal Tool Table
I believe we have to start with the ISO standards what ever they might be. Being a commercial operation I can move from control to control and the tool data both geometry and wear offsets is handled very similar from control to control (different brands). I think the major differences come into play on the conversational side. Having programmed Cincinnati, Fanuc and Fagor it is my belief that the tool is still described to a pocket or a tool number. I do know that you can call a similar tool from a different pocket in case of tool breakage and or wear. Using Cam for 99.9 percent of our programming the tool is described to the cam system not the machine. In a shop that uses conversational more I can see where the ability to describe tools to the control would be better but I still believe that is driven by pocket numbers. Mazak conversational has the ability to look at the tool description and find that tool but I have never actually used their control. Jeff L Johnson Superior Roll Turning Superiorroll.com 734-279-1831 Fax 279-1166 -- LogMeIn Central: Instant, anywhere, Remote PC access and management. Stay in control, update software, and manage PCs from one command center Diagnose problems and improve visibility into emerging IT issues Automate, monitor and manage. Do more in less time with Central http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein12331_d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Ideal Tool Table
as ive seen fanucs that use half offsets and use full dia offsets, which all of this is also dependant upon programming technique if one really digs down to it Jeremy Youngs I would like to see the wear offsets applied in full also, I agree that it is less math for the operator. Not knowing how or what is involved on the LinuxCNC side could that be just a parameter to change for either Full or half in the INI file? I am running the Faunuc style patch now and it only takes half or radius inputs this is cumbersome on a lathe for sure and a mill too in my opinion. as to the assigning of pockets we have three choices, assignment, (each tool has a pocket ) randomization ( control picks the first available pocket, this is faster) , and random with the ability to assign which i vote for so as to have the fastest tool change possible and assign for large tools that need an empty pocket next to them. Jeremy Youngs I would vote for random with the ability to assign also, especially once I get to the task of putting LinuxCNC on one of my vertical machining centers. So far I have only had experience on our first turning center. I want to contribute to this in anyway possible but it will only be from the user standpoint. You guys go way over my head on most of the issues I read on here. Jeff L Johnson -- LogMeIn Central: Instant, anywhere, Remote PC access and management. Stay in control, update software, and manage PCs from one command center Diagnose problems and improve visibility into emerging IT issues Automate, monitor and manage. Do more in less time with Central http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein12331_d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
