Re: [Emc-users] Editors

2013-11-15 Thread Kent Reed
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 5:23 AM, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote:

 Kent,

 Tried to access the link you posted earlier.  I'm getting a 504 gateway
 time out for the site not responding.


Well, crud. It seems MediaFire and I disagree on the meaning of the word
share. I copied the URL from their Share this Directory popup and tried
it on two different computers/browsers before posting. Apparently, those
browsers both knew I was subscribed to MediaFire, or perhaps MediaFire
saw they presented the same public IP because of NAT. Whatever. I blame my
mistake on old timers disease.

See if this works:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/108772316@N05/

flameAll the photo sharing sites I've used with ease in the past,
including MediaFire, Google, and Flickr, have been changing their user
interfaces to fit the social-networking model---now I have to deal with
circles, friends, and such. I hate having to arm wrestle with these new
interfaces to get what I want instead of what they think is best. (Are they
free? Yeah, but I've always been good at looking a gift horse in the
mouth.) flame/

Regard,
Kent

PS -a truncated version of the MediaFire link (deleting
/EditorScreenCaps) might possibly work but even that may be only for
people I specifically invite.
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Re: [Emc-users] Editors

2013-11-15 Thread Kent Reed
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Marius Liebenberg
mar...@mastercut.co.zawrote:

 I also got an error but the site was actually down. When I tried later I
 got to your link no problem.



Thanks, Marius.

I don't know whether to feel relief that I got it right the first time or
to feel embarrassed that I took the apparent failure as an opportunity to
flame about a pet peeve without checking my facts first, so I'll do both :-)

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Re: [Emc-users] beaglebone black capeless CNC configuration

2013-11-14 Thread Kent Reed
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Kent A. Reed kentallanr...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 11/13/2013 9:14 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:

 On 11/13/13 20:01, Jeff Pollard wrote:

 Hi,

 I never found a GUI editor available on the BBB Machinekit system
 through the desktop (doesn't mean it's not there somewhere).
 ...

 Yeah, there might not be one.  By default, I install the bare minimum to
 get LinuxCNC up and running (I don't even install vim, just the plain vi
 pulled in by the default Debian install).t  I figured there might be
 something in the file browser or elsewhere, but it wouldn't shock me if
 there's not.

 I'll have to see if I can find a light-weight editor to add to the
 package list...

 --
 Charles


 Sorry, my BBB is in service at the moment, but I poked around a virtual
 Debian 7.1 (Wheezy) system on which I had previously installed enough
 packages to build LinuxCNC.

 From the Debian repo, I installed a number of 'lightweight' gui-based
 editors via the usual 'sudo apt-get install xxx'.

 - cream
 - geany
 - lpe   - different from the rest: a full-page terminal-based editor
 - nedit
 - x2

 I'm too lazy to install each to a virgin Debian install just to find out
 how much filespace gets used once all the dependencies are loaded. From a
 baseline du -ks = 219068, I ended up with du -ks=219204 after installing
 all five.

 The smallest executables were lpe (51.8KB) and xe (51.6KB). The largest
 were geany (2.36MB) and cream (2.23MB after tracing through a script and
 some links). The middling one is nedit (1.19MB).

 I'm trying to post screen captures of each to a public site so y'all can
 take a look. I know which I like but I wouldn't think of recommending an
 editor to anyone. There's no accounting for taste:-)


Sorry but I got called away for most of the day.

I've posted screen captures of the five editors I mentioned at

http://www.mediafire.com/folder/1xcg9f3cmrn91/EditorScreenCaps

Many of them have features of interest to programmers. Some automatically
display line numbers and I enabled that feature for another.

And for dave, I use vi/vim for many tasks because it is omnipresent, but
the OP was asking about GUI-based editors. There's alway gvim aka vim-gnome
but it reminds me of the old saw about motorcycles with sidecars: they
combine the disadvantages of motorcycles and cars with none of the
advantages of either.

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Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc on beaglebone black with Raspberry Pi display

2013-11-13 Thread Kent Reed
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 2:54 AM, Paul Lacatus (Personal) 
p...@paul-lacatus.ro wrote:

 Hi everybody ,

 Lately I was not following very close the list and I might be missing
 some info . I know that there is a functional implementation of Linux
 CNC on beaglebone with axis as HMI that I want to test very soon on my
 Proxxon MF70 .  I am also aware that Beagle bone black has a less
 powerful  GPU than Raspberry and axis generates   an important load on
 the system . Checking on the internet on element 14  I found a
 discussion about Combining BeagleBone and Raspberry Pi  that I think
 it might be useful on this application of beaglebone Black :

 http://www.element14.com/community/message/53671



Hi, Paul.

There's been on-and-off discussion on these lists over the years about
combining a LinuxCNC controller on one board with an X11 server on a
separate one. The same thought carries over seamlessly to the current
discussion of ARM-based implementations.

 My usual answer is just do it! My personal taste runs toward strapping a
small board on the back of a monitor to create what used to be called an
X-Terminal 20 years ago (when the price of a single workstation was ca
USD1) but to each his own.

Why not just use two Beaglebone Blacks communicating over ethernet? The
total cost of ownership isn't so very different even considering the cost
of an ethernet switch. I ceratinly wouldn't waste any time futzing with
ethernet-over-USB.

Regards,
Kent

PS - as for the X loading on the Beaglebone Black, I posted some of my
early measurements at
https://sites.google.com/site/manisbutareed/beaglebone-black-linuxcnc . I
meant to do more but a personal tragedy disrupted my plans and I never got
back to the subject.
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Re: [Emc-users] Something that bugs me

2013-11-09 Thread Kent Reed
On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 4:02 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 Greetings;

 It appears that /usr/bin/halui has never been edited and rebuilt since a
 long time back.

 When the camview-emc stanza for [HALUI] is added to the ini file, I am
 getting a whole raft load of errors because halui can't find stuff it is
 apparently hard coded for, starting with the use of the emc naming
 convention.

 Is there a fix?  Or, since I don't know where this file comes from, is it
 camview-emc's responsibility?


Gene:

I'm bewildered (nothing new!) so maybe I'll learn something here.

The userland component halui is rebuilt from src/emc/usr_intf/halui.cc
every time LinuxCNC is rebuilt from sources. Maybe it hasn't been edited
recently because it hasn't needed any modification.

This source file and the associated man page state in similar ways that
halui exports
various UI related hal pins and communicates with EMC through NML messages.
To quote the man page,

halui.mdi-command-XX bit in

halui looks for ini variables named [HALUI]MDI_COMMAND, and exports a pin
for each command it finds. When the pin is driven TRUE, halui runs the
specified MDI command. XX is a two digit number starting at 00. If no
[HALUI]MDI_COMMAND variables are set in the ini file, no
halui.mdi-command-XX pins will be exported by halui.

The docs section on INI Configuration say the same thing about [HALUI]  in
considerably less detail.

What bewilders me is how a camview-emc stanza fits into [HALUI]. Is that
described somewhere?

Inquiring minds want to know. You see, I've got all these cams sitting
around

Regards,

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Re: [Emc-users] gcmc - G-Code Meta Compiler

2013-10-31 Thread Kent Reed
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 6:26 AM, Bertho Stultiens ber...@vagrearg.orgwrote:

 On 10/31/2013 07:38 AM, Gregg Eshelman wrote:
  Once achieving a state where all of a program works, it's a good idea to
  do a renumber then continue work on a copy.
 
  If G-Code cannot handle gaps in its line numbers, then perhaps an editor
  could do so, then have a Save As runnable output function which
  automatically renumbers with a step of one and another option to save
  the editing version with the gaps?

 If you already are in need for a program to help you to fix a program,
 then why not fix the language in the first place?

 G-code has already evolved through time to support many more features
 than originally envisioned, but it still suffers from the the same
 archaic syntax. That was (and is) my objection. Even basic evolved into
 a (almost) context-free grammar, for the better or worse, in visual
 basic. Please note that you can write bad code in any language...

 I am not forcing anybody to change their habbits or preferences, only
 hoping to. I am trying to provide an alternative. Explaining why I want
 to provide an alternative seems a reasonable thing to do.


Guys:

I don't understand this obsession with line (aka block or sequence) numbers
in G-Code, e.g., instances of the N word. They are optional and exist for
the benefit of the programmer / operator, not the interpreter. Use your
favorite search engine to find examples of utilities which can add, remove,
or renumber line numbers in G-Code programs. (Sorry, many are not free, but
that's the way life is. Write your own if you feel the need. It's an easy
exercise.) Note that O words are the proverbial horse of another color.

Bertho, there is no need to dwell on the archaic syntax of G-Code. G-Code
was invented long ago and will continue to live on given the installed base
of machinery, design/control software, trained operators, and G-Code
programs stored away for future use. Sure it's a conservative industry, but
the emergence of CAD/CAM software means most professionals no longer
generate G-Code by hand anyway.

There is no need to dwell on the justification for providing an
alternative, either. As my grandmother was fond of saying, the proof of
the pudding is in the eating. Let's get on with finishing the pudding and
let the CNC world decide if it likes the taste. If it does, then gcmc will
be its own justification. If it doesn't, you'll still have a program which
satisfies your needs and sensibilities. My guess is that some will like it,
some won't. A long-ago friend liked to remind me, there's no accounting
for taste.

Just my 2-cents worth.

Regards,
Kent


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easy-to-learn language with many desirable features and intended to promote
peace and harmony in the world. Lingua Franca was a bastard, polyglot
language which grew out of necessity to support growing commerce among
countries surrounding the Mediterranean. Guess which one was consequential
in world history.
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Re: [Emc-users] Mainboard suggestions for a 5axis stepper machine

2013-10-25 Thread Kent Reed
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Florian Rist fr...@fs.tum.de wrote:

 Hi,
 thanks for all your comments.
 ...
 Regarding the mainbaord. Any suggestions?


Florian:

Putting aside my snarky answer about mosfet pops and connector fires, are
you looking for a small form-factor board---mini-itx or micro-atx?

I and others have had good luck with several brands of such boards
employing previous generations of Intel Atom CPUs, as borne out by the
numbers posted to the latency-test results table on the Wiki. I quite like
my ASUS AT5NM10-I board (Intel D510) and my older Intel D945GCLF2 board
(Atom 330). Is the supply of these or similar out-of-production boards
completely exhausted in Germany?

I don't have one but there are several entries in that table reporting good
numbers for the Gigabyte E350N board (AMD E350D/A45). Both newegg.com and
tigerdirect.com show this board in stock. Perhaps it's available in Germany
too? I measured lousy numbers on the seemingly equivalent Biostar A68I-E350
Deluxe so pay attention to board maker as well as CPU model.

One needn't fixate on the Atom CPU. In previous discussions of a similar
nature it has been argued that there are non-Atom CPUs and separate
motherboards, some of them small form-factor, available at very competitive
prices. I don't have the data at hand but I can search the email archive if
no one else pipes up.

Good hunting.

Regards,
Kent
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Re: [Emc-users] THANKS! - Integrator Meeting 2013 Germany

2013-10-25 Thread Kent Reed
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 4:28 AM, Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com wrote:

 ...
 And some pics taken during the weekend:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/svenneduva/10380436065/in/set-72157636752624624


Sven:

Great pics. Regrettably, only a few are captioned with a person's name. If
you get a chance could you add captions to some of the other pics which
have participants in the frame?

Looks like you got nice weather for the occasion.

Thanks,
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Re: [Emc-users] rockhopper replay

2013-10-14 Thread Kent Reed
On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 Greetings all;

 I tried to get firefox, watching rockhopper, to save me a fresh .svg file
 of my lathes .hal file because the one taped to the shop door is nearly 6
 months old  well out of date.  But all I can get it to save is the .html
 of the page.


Right-mouse-click on the image, select Save image as... from the
pull-down menu, and drive on. Works for me in Linux and Windows version of
Firefox.

Regards,
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Re: [Emc-users] Wireless card problems

2013-09-22 Thread Kent Reed
Mark:

Just a comment, since I don't run wireless adapters on my 10.04 hosts.

I have managed over the years to help a friend who lives in penury on the
left coast get Linux + wireless working on several cast-off laptops he and
his significant other have received. For some of them he picked up el
cheapo USB-wireless adapters at Fry's. In any case, if the adapter does
work as-is I've usually been able to get it working with the aid of the
material on wireless.kernel.org. He prefers Linux Mint to Ubuntu so I'm
only guessing his earlier system was based on 10.04. In some cases, the
labor is significant, but I was always able to tell him enough by email to
get him going.

Generally speaking, the newer the kernel and its modules, the more likely
everything just works. Yet another reason to abandon 10.04, even if one
doesn't care Ubuntu no longer supports it.

Regards,
Kent


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 Well, I'm in the market for a new wireless card or USB wireless.  My old
 Netgear WG111v3 worked great on my old DSL router which used WEP.  We
 recently upgraded to FIOS, and it uses WPA/2.  Unfortunately, under Ubuntu
 10.04 and ndiswrappers, it does not work at all with any kind of WPA.  Many
 fruitless hours spent yesterday trying to find a solution, only to find
 that it's a no go.

 Any recommendations for a wireless card or wireless USB that works with
 10.04 and WPA/2?

 Thanks,
 Mark

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Re: [Emc-users] Wireless card problems

2013-09-22 Thread Kent Reed
Mark:

I've used straight wireless, wireless via bridges as Eric suggests, and
also powerline ethernet to solve various connectivity problems at home and
at my kids' homes.

I reflashed several old Linksys router/access points which didn't support
bridging with open-source software (I forget whether I ended up liking
OpenWRT or DD-WRT better). Works a treat.

Many people deprecate powerline networking but the speeds have dramatically
improved and it is much less less accessible to blackhats. I won't conduct
business, financial or healthcare transactions over wireless links except
via VPN and that's yet another thing to set up.

Regards,
Kent
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[Emc-users] just noticed on Hackaday --- new free 3D CAD program almost here

2013-09-14 Thread Kent Reed
Gentle persons:

Take a gander at
http://hackaday.com/2013/09/13/designspark-mechanical-the-gift-of-invention/

looks like SketchUp may get a run for its money.

Regards,
Kent

PS - I pointed you at Hackaday rather at DesignSpark directly in order to
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Re: [Emc-users] just noticed on Hackaday --- new free 3D CAD program almost here

2013-09-14 Thread Kent Reed
Trying to head off the inevitable flurry of followup messages, I should
note that DesignSpark says

*Operating Systems:*
Microsoft® Windows XP with Service Pack 3
Microsoft® Windows Vista™
Microsoft® Windows 7
Microsoft® Windows 8
DesignSpark Mechanical is not supported on virtual platforms.

I don't know if is not supported means it won't work or just we don't
care enough to test.

I use Windows when I must and Unix/Linux when I can so this is not a
problem for me but I know it will be for others. So be it.

In any case, I have to wait a couple days to find out if the product merits
adding to my portfolio.

Regards,
Kent



On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 On Saturday 14 September 2013 09:49:31 Kent Reed did opine:

  Gentle persons:
 
  Take a gander at
  http://hackaday.com/2013/09/13/designspark-mechanical-the-gift-of-invent
  ion/
 
  looks like SketchUp may get a run for its money.
 
  Regards,
  Kent

 That will not be that hard.  Sketchup seems far more of an architectural
 aid than anything else.  Maybe I'm getting too slow in my dotage, but the
 interface in Sketchup is not the least bit intuitive to me.  I tried to do
 a piece of furniture, spent 2 or 3 days on it, restarted from scratch about
 every 30 minutes many times, but gave up when I couldn't find a way to make
 all the cross braces the same length.  Screen motions are so gross I
 couldn't match within 1/4.  And the undo sucks dead toads thru soda
 straws. 5 levels I think.  That will not get you through the first stick.

 I assume we'll even have prices on the parts library after Monday?

  PS - I pointed you at Hackaday rather at DesignSpark directly in order
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Re: [Emc-users] [Emc-developers] cinci control

2013-07-26 Thread Kent Reed
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.comwrote:

 I just talked to Siemens. There is a USD330.00 charge to talk to a
 technician about a mature product.
 If I thought for a second they would give/sell me the communication
 protocol I would do it. I won't pay to have them tell me I won't get the
 information from them. :)


I wonder if there is any point to getting in touch with some of the
companies which service this equipment. When I tried searching on
Cincinnati Milacron IBA for example I got hits on companies like
controlrepair.com and galco.com. It's possible they know only the
electrical characteristics of the gear they repair but there's always a
chance they also know the interoperability protocols.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained, my grandmother would say.

Regards,
Kent
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Re: [Emc-users] Anyone seen a failure like this?

2013-06-17 Thread Kent Reed
On Jun 17, 2013 10:41 AM, Tom Easterday tom-...@bgp.nu wrote:


 On Jun 17, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com wrote:
  I'm fairly certain that when you boot the liveCD and then choose to
  install the system that it goes through the normal Linux install process
  that includes formatting the drive.

 I am running the LiveCD install again and it does not give you the option
to format the drive in any specific filesystem.  Just lets you select a
disk and if there is already something there it will (presumably) partition
the disk and install them side by side.  But, there are no options, menus,
etc to let you pick a drive format.  So, I am installing again with
whatever the default is, probably EXT4

 -Tom



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Ummm...are you sure about that, Tom? Look carefully at the 'Prepare disk
space' screen. Choice 3 is 'Specify partitions manually (advanced)'.
Choosing it and clicking 'forward' gets you to a screen which let's you do
most anything you want including picking partition format types.

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Re: [Emc-users] How about a 1Ghz PIII for 2 axis?

2013-04-30 Thread Kent Reed
On Apr 30, 2013 6:56 PM, Gregg Eshelman g_ala...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Picked up a Dell  Dimension L100R for free. Has parallel and serial
ports, 1 Ghz Socket 370 PIII with 512K cache (better than the 256K version)
and will have 512 meg PC133 once I find another 256 meg stick it likes. I
have a couple it sees as only 32 meg. (512 is max for this model.)


Gregg:

First things first. Have you run the latency test on this box? I seem to
remember getting disappointing results on this or a very similar sounding
Dell model (it wasn't mine so I can't check now). I don't see it listed in
the table on the Wiki, though. That could mean my memory is faulty or it
could mean I didn't think the results interesting enough for such an old
system to bother to report. For your sake I hope it's the former.

Regards,
Kent
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Re: [Emc-users] emulation software

2013-03-25 Thread Kent Reed
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:19 AM, Greg Bernard yankeelena2...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Do any of you guys have a recommendation for Windows emulation software?
 WINE has worked welll for most of my applications but now I've started
 using Rhinocad  which won't run on WINE. From what I can tell Virtualbox
 and VMware are the most popular choices but I'd like to hear other peoples
 experience before I dive in.




Greg:

Neither VirtualBox nor VMware emulates Windows. Rather, they create a
environment in which Windows can run as if it were installed to bare
metal (which means you still need to have a copy of Windows to install).

Having said that, I've used both. I ultimately settled on VB out of
laziness more than anything and haven't kept up with VMware in recent
years. VB has performed satisfactorily for me with one caveat. The graphics
driver it presents to applications is never as good as native drivers*.
Whether that matters in your application is something you have to decide
for yourself. Don't be discouraged by what you read on the Internet. The
widespread display of certitude based on ignorance is breathtaking.

It costs nothing but some space on your hard drive and a little of your
time to install VB. Give it a try. I use it all the time because it makes
management of multiple, differently flavored hosts dead easy.

Good luck.

Regards,
Kent

*This statement may be more apparent when running Windows as a virtual host
than when running Linux as a virtual host but of course YMMV.
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Re: [Emc-users] off topic component question

2013-03-18 Thread Kent Reed
On Mar 18, 2013 10:12 AM, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, 18 Mar 2013, andy pugh wrote:

  On 17 March 2013 09:18,  kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote:
  I have a need to read dc current
  36 volts up to 100 amps reasonably accurate
  I am looking at Tamura L03S100D15 with Arduino
  I am sure y'all have other suggestions hopefully cheaper
 
  http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/current-transducers/0259362/ looks
cheaper.
  It is also direct voltage output, which might be more convenient.
 

 A bit higher priced for the kit over here
 If I make my own boards it would be cheaper
 How do I calibrate it

I don't wish to sound flippant but how about applying Ohm's law? I know it
seems like a chicken and egg problem to get a known source and a known load
but the Internet is your friend.  In my case, I think creating a suitable,
stable resistance would be reasonably straight forward. The difficult bit
for me would be finding a DC supply capable of sustaining 100A but I assume
you must have one or you wouldn't be looking for a way to measure 100A.
Keep in mind the Hall-effect sensor is current sensitive. 1V is as good as
36V for exciting your test harness with a concomitant reduction in power
consumption.

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