Bruce,
here ist the answer concerning the NC Box 189 from Taiwan. Too much fuss
for me to order one from far east, though. I want to have a local
distributor to talk with just in case.
Peter Blodow
-Original Message-
From: Anthony_DMP [mailto:anth...@dmp.com.tw]
Sent: Monday, October
Terry Christophersen wrote:
I always surf the net while the CNC programs are running, I see nothing
wrong with that.
I play music and watch youtube videos also.
What is the hourly rate for watching ytube?
I need to know so I can tell my customers.This sounds like more
fun than running
I recently put in a 7i25 card because of latency issues. This make a
pretty rock solid system. I don't see the big difference between buffering
using a pci card, vs a usb device. Mesa has a high speed usb breakout that
would probably work?? I think it uses the high speed ftdi chip? I think
On 10 October 2012 13:38, Erik Friesen e...@aercon.net wrote:
I recently put in a 7i25 card because of latency issues. This make a
pretty rock solid system. I don't see the big difference between buffering
using a pci card, vs a usb device.
The Mesa (and Pico) cards don't buffer as such.
On 10/8/2012 10:29 PM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote:
have a machine that runs latency tests just fine and then gives me a
real-time error when I start LCNC. Never really tracked it down because I
always intended just to move on to a new machine. It can be frustrating.
I
This is how my CNC PC is done. It has a dedicated CPU for CNC real time
work and another CPU for everything else, like watching youtube, GUI, etc
etc. Never a latency problem that I could detect.
i
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 6:52 AM, Ron Ginger rongin...@roadrunner.com wrote:
On 10/8/2012 10:29
On 10/09/2012 08:58 AM, andy pugh wrote:
That is what EMC was conceived as. The whole underlying idea was to
use cheap, off the shelf, PC hardware for machine control, rather than
use expensive dedicated hardware.
Does it need to be an exclusive OR function? Can't we have both?
LinuxCNC was
Controller (EMC)
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Mach on Linux
On 10/09/2012 08:58 AM, andy pugh wrote:
That is what EMC was conceived as. The whole underlying idea was to
use cheap, off the shelf, PC hardware for machine control, rather than
use expensive dedicated hardware.
Does it need
andy pugh wrote:
Why are some people so hung up on the idea that one box (even a box full
of micros) must be used as the machine control?
That is what EMC was conceived as. The whole underlying idea was to
use cheap, off the shelf, PC hardware for machine control, rather than
use expensive
On 9 October 2012 14:19, Bruce Layne linux...@thinkingdevices.com wrote:
I think it'd also be great if there was a small, low
cost commercially available PC that is pretty much guaranteed to work as
a LinuxCNC controller.
There is:
http://www.roboard.com/ncbox-189.html
It took a bit of work
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Bruce Layne linux...@thinkingdevices.comwrote:
LinuxCNC was initially conceived to directly control machine motion in
realtime using a parallel port, and it does a very good job of that, but
it now supports a number of commercially available I/O and motion
On Tuesday 09 October 2012 11:14:43 Eric Keller did opine:
[...]
I see no reason to trade the ease of development of a pc environment for
some sort of embedded system hanging off the pc just because some people
want to use old, cheap PCs. The truth is, a new, cheap PC will do the
job all
On Tue, 9 Oct 2012, Ron Ginger wrote:
Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 07:52:16 -0400
From: Ron Ginger rongin...@roadrunner.com
Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Mach on Linux
On 10/8/2012 10
On 10/09/2012 10:05 AM, andy pugh wrote:
There is: http://www.roboard.com/ncbox-189.html It took a bit of work
to get a kernel that worked well, but that is done now.
http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/component/kunena/?func=viewcatid=18id=20692limit=6
I followed that NCbox-189
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Bruce Layne
linux...@thinkingdevices.comwrote:
For me, that begs the question: Is the user interface so burdensome
that the realtime operating system can't allocate top priority to the
realtime job and have enough left over for the user interface?
The reason I
Gentlemen,
I also coudn't find the NC Box 189 on the internet site of the
manufacturer or his distributors. I sent them a mail asking for price
and availability and got no answer, so far.
Peter Blodow
Ehrenberg
Bruce Layne schrieb:
On 10/09/2012 10:05 AM, andy pugh wrote:
There is:
Bruce Layne wrote:
LinuxCNC was initially conceived to directly control machine motion in
realtime using a parallel port,
No, not really true. The original EMC (1) was conceived to control a
servo machine
with a dumb motion interface board such as the Servo-to-Go. A board with
encoder
On 10/9/2012 9:02 AM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote:
Why are some people so hung up on the idea that one box (even a box full
of micros) must be used as the machine control?
That is what EMC was conceived as. The whole underlying idea was to
use cheap, off the shelf, PC
On Tue, 2012-10-09 at 12:09 -0500, Jon Elson wrote:
Bruce Layne wrote:
LinuxCNC was initially conceived to directly control machine motion in
realtime using a parallel port.
Ah, if my memory serves me correctly we get to blame Matt Shaver for the
stepper interface. ;-)
IIRC he mentioned to
Ron;
I appreciate what you are saying, and, everyone should have a voice.
As someone fairly new to CNC, but not to computers in general, I'm really glad
that:
1) LinuxCNC exists;
2) It has parallel port stepper control.
It allowed me to start really easily, and, it works.
Is it optimal?
The kflop looks interesting... But again - you are stuck with what
bells and whistles are programed into it. Plus for the mach people that
say you need to be a programmer to run linuxcnc - How about this quote
from kflop...
http://www.dynomotion.com/faq.html
-Do I need to be a C Programmer
The reality is that a modern dual core mini itx PC board has plenty of
power to drive a 3+ axis cnc machine while displaying a GUI in high res.
I've done it, it works, no issues.
So I don't think there is a speed problem at all regarding PC
horsepower. I think there used to be one when we
- Original Message -
From: Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Cc:
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Mach on Linux
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Roland Jollivet
roland.jolli
On 7 October 2012 19:11, Len Shelton l...@probotix.com wrote:
Most people choose Mach3 because they want to have a single box to run
their CAD, CAM, control software on, or they are just afraid of Linux.
What is not obvious is that to get it to even be half-way reliable - you
have to strip
On 8 October 2012 17:45, Roland Jollivet roland.jolli...@gmail.com wrote:
Admittedly, this does come from personal frustration, because I've gone
through the schlep of converting at least 6 W$ PC's to Linux and running
EMC, but none of them every had good enough latency.
There shouldn't be
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Roland Jollivet
roland.jolli...@gmail.comwrote:
On 7 October 2012 19:11, Len Shelton l...@probotix.com wrote:
Most people choose Mach3 because they want to have a single box to run
their CAD, CAM, control software on, or they are just afraid of Linux.
On 10/08/2012 01:02 PM, andy pugh wrote:
There shouldn't be any need for that much effort, you can boot from
the LiveCD and run the latency test from there, without making any
changes. Should only take 10 minutes, and if it fails then the machine is
still
just as it was.
That was my
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Roland Jollivet
roland.jolli...@gmail.comwrote:
On 7 October 2012 19:11, Len Shelton l...@probotix.com wrote:
Most people choose Mach3 because they want to have a single box to run
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Bruce Layne linux...@thinkingdevices.comwrote:
On 10/08/2012 01:02 PM, andy pugh wrote:
There shouldn't be any need for that much effort, you can boot from
the LiveCD and run the latency test from there, without making any
changes. Should only take 10
Eric Keller wrote:
I have a machine that runs latency tests just fine and then gives me a
real-time error when I start LCNC.
Have you run glxgears while the latency test was running? I have seen
some cases
where a lot of memory accesses by a shared-memory graphics system can cause
major
The best thing is it will help Linux get out of the 'for geeks
only' view that many people have.
I doubt this will be the case because its mostly geeks who are doing the
CNC thing. If you have a CNC machine and you think you are not a geek -
you are in denial.
But a competitor to LinuxCNC
On Sun, 2012-10-07 at 12:11 -0500, Len Shelton wrote:
The best thing is it will help Linux get out of the 'for geeks
only' view that many people have.
I doubt this will be the case because its mostly geeks who are doing the
CNC thing. If you have a CNC machine and you think you are not a
Len Shelton wrote:
Not only does the Mach3 interface remind me of three-year-olds with
crayons with all of its flashy thingies and inconsistent methods
Ah HAH! So I'm NOT the only one who thinks that!
Jon
--
Don't
Get in line Jon.. ;-)
That has been a long standing complaint of Mach3 for many, many years.
For some reason they never got around to cleaning up the standard screen
set.
I have idea why.
I am sure that when Art first made up that screen, that he thought it
would be revised in 6 months or
On 7 October 2012 22:40, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote:
Not only does the Mach3 interface remind me of three-year-olds with
crayons with all of its flashy thingies and inconsistent methods
Ah HAH! So I'm NOT the only one who thinks that!
I can't recall who it was who said that Mach
Len Shelton wrote:
Not only does the Mach3 interface remind me of three-year-olds with
crayons with all of its flashy thingies and inconsistent methods
Ah HAH! So I'm NOT the only one who thinks that!
Jon
But you need to specify which Mach screen set you are talking about-
there are
But a competitor to LinuxCNC in Mach4? Well as someone who takes CNC
technical support calls everyday, my opinion is tainted by Mach3.
Not only does the Mach3 interface remind me of three-year-olds with
crayons with all of its flashy thingies and inconsistent methods, but
Mach3 is full of
Dave wrote:
That has been a long standing complaint of Mach3 for many, many years.
For some reason they never got around to cleaning up the standard screen
set.
I have idea why.
I am sure that when Art first made up that screen, that he thought it
would be revised in 6 months or so.. but
But you need to specify which Mach screen set you are talking about
Doesn't matter. Most Mach3 users chose Mach3 because either A) its
popular and more well known - a CNC catch phrase if-you-will; or B) they
are afraid of Linux. Now B is not necessarily the cause of A, but I
would bet that
On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 23:10:04 +0100, you wrote:
On 7 October 2012 22:40, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote:
Not only does the Mach3 interface remind me of three-year-olds with
crayons with all of its flashy thingies and inconsistent methods
Ah HAH! So I'm NOT the only one who thinks that!
Looks like LinuxCNC is about to get some competition..
From: Brian Barker bri...@machsupport.com
Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 14:03:21 -0400
Mach4 can run on Linux and Mac and Windows Also we are looking at CE :)
Also Art Fenerty recently posted this about threading
It is based on encoder
I only recently signed up to this list, so I didn't get the Mach 4 On
Linux news from a couple of months back.
I'm glad that Mach 4 is going to be running on native Linux and Mac
systems. I use Linux for all my computing needs, and recently I've been
starting to employ LinuxCNC for several
This is great news for Linux. Of course, I am very happy with EMC2
i
On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net wrote:
Looks like LinuxCNC is about to get some competition..
From: Brian Barker bri...@machsupport.com
Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 14:03:21 -0400
Mach4
This issue with mach on linux is (the way I understand it) is it is
going to be just a fancy gui that controls an external motion device.
(no realtime at all) So - you have to pick the external motion device
that has all the features you want.
While the interface hardware for linuxcnc is
On 6 October 2012 21:14, Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net wrote:
Mach4 can run on Linux and Mac and Windows Also we are looking at CE :)
Mach on Mac could be handy. I have a Reprap/Ultimaker sized gap next to my Mac.
Though http://www.ecklersoft.com is looking like a more tempting way
to make
I am a Linux and open source advocate for just about every use, but I
do see good things from there being commercial software available for
Linux too.
The best thing is it will help Linux get out of the 'for geeks only'
view that many people have.
Will LinuxCNC and Mach go head to head? Yes,
On Saturday 06 October 2012 21:12:35 jeremy youngs did opine:
did I mention just rehashing the previous posts would be sufficient?
;) ha ha ha
as to your expertise and experience gene it is highly regarded
especially when discussing situations such as this thanx for the
story. so If i
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