Re: [Emc-users] Nice old iron

[Gregg Eshelman]

I sold a circa 1935 B No. 2 surface grinder that had sat outside for who 
knows how long, but the slideways on the table looked factory new with all the 
original scraping marks, despite the paint all peeling off and rust all over.
Lube is life to machine tools. :)

 
  From: Dave Caroline <dave.thearchiv...@gmail.com>
 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> 
 Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2016 4:26 AM
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Nice old iron
   
Marcus often internal slides and even external if a good metal will
not have lost enough in rusting to make them unusable and any original
oil can keep most in reasonable condition for a number of years. When
you clean the surface rust with a scraper (not too sharp) and or wire
brush you can still see machining marks.

   
 
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Re: [Emc-users] Nice old iron

[Andy Pugh]

> On 3 Sep 2016, at 13:26, Dave Caroline  wrote:
> 
> Marcus often internal slides and even external if a good metal will
> not have lost enough in rusting to make them unusable and any original
> oil can keep most in reasonable condition for a number of years.

Machine tools always look worse in photos too. My Holbrook looked a goner in 
the photos, but knowing the above I went for a look and it was fine. 
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Re: [Emc-users] Nice old iron

[Dave Caroline]

Marcus often internal slides and even external if a good metal will
not have lost enough in rusting to make them unusable and any original
oil can keep most in reasonable condition for a number of years. When
you clean the surface rust with a scraper (not too sharp) and or wire
brush you can still see machining marks.

My southbend came rather black from a paint shop but any rust I had to
clean off is small fry compared to the wear on the slide from its
production days.
I have cleaned and painted a few parts over the years, still scruffy though
http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchstr=southbend+pd

in my hobbing machine, was a bit of a fight to free and take apart
http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchstr=barber+colman+pd
I had some water into the slide, mostly ok, just needed a clean with a
scraper and fine (1200 grit) wet and dry to clean up. sorry no picture
of that area after cleaning.

Dave Caroline

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Re: [Emc-users] Nice old iron

[Marcus Bowman]

Impressive. And good looking too.
What about the parts that are supposed to be close sliding fits, like the 
tailstock barrel etc?

Marcus

On 3 Sep 2016, at 08:51, Dave Caroline wrote:

> Do not let "stored outside" frighten you
> in my garden for many years to restored and running
> http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchstr=filing+new
> about a week of restoration
> and another that was usable after a day or two
> http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchstr=harrison+pd
> I got that rusty anyway then stored the base outdoors
> 
> No before pictures but this was found outdoors in a puddle at a scrapyard
> http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchstr=dumore
> after cleaning de rusting and tested, not been painted.
> 
> Dave Caroline
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Re: [Emc-users] Nice old iron

[Dave Caroline]

Do not let "stored outside" frighten you
in my garden for many years to restored and running
http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchstr=filing+new
about a week of restoration
and another that was usable after a day or two
http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchstr=harrison+pd
I got that rusty anyway then stored the base outdoors

No before pictures but this was found outdoors in a puddle at a scrapyard
http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchstr=dumore
after cleaning de rusting and tested, not been painted.

Dave Caroline

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Re: [Emc-users] Nice old iron

[Marcus Bowman]

I must say I do hate it when machinery is "stored outside". It shows a distinct 
lack of respect -- and perhaps more realistically a lack of indoor space. The 
poor fellow needs a bigger workshop.

Marcus


On 3 Sep 2016, at 02:36, Jon Elson wrote:

> On 09/02/2016 03:50 PM, andy pugh wrote:
>> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Various-machines-untested-/282157105171?hash=item41b1dfc013:g:md0AAOSwRGlXqFQ2
>> 
>> You would need a big truck for all 11 machines.
>> 
>> There is something about the Ikega I like, but my garage is full. No,
>> really, it is.
>> 
> Ugh, quite a rusty bunch of machines.
> 
> Jon
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Re: [Emc-users] Nice old iron

[Jon Elson]

On 09/02/2016 03:50 PM, andy pugh wrote:
> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Various-machines-untested-/282157105171?hash=item41b1dfc013:g:md0AAOSwRGlXqFQ2
>
> You would need a big truck for all 11 machines.
>
> There is something about the Ikega I like, but my garage is full. No,
> really, it is.
>
Ugh, quite a rusty bunch of machines.

Jon

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Re: [Emc-users] Nice old iron

[Ken Strauss]

I love the note and my postman is even happier:
"Postage: May not post to Canada - Read item description or contact seller for 
postage options."

> -Original Message-
> From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 4:51 PM
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Subject: [Emc-users] Nice old iron
>
> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Various-machines-untested-
> /282157105171?hash=item41b1dfc013:g:md0AAOSwRGlXqFQ2
>
> You would need a big truck for all 11 machines.
>
> There is something about the Ikega I like, but my garage is full. No, 
> really, it is.
>
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> "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for
> the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics."
> - George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1916
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[Emc-users] Nice old iron

[andy pugh]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Various-machines-untested-/282157105171?hash=item41b1dfc013:g:md0AAOSwRGlXqFQ2

You would need a big truck for all 11 machines.

There is something about the Ikega I like, but my garage is full. No,
really, it is.

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atp
"A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is
designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
lunatics."
— George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1916

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