Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Encoder AEDR-8300 Encoder Ring

2018-11-29 Thread Chris Albertson
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 5:25 PM Andy Pugh wrote: > > > > On 29 Nov 2018, at 20:40, Chris Albertson > wrote: > > > > "Hal" is not code? It is a text file that contains instructons. > > It’s a net list. It might look like code but it helps to keep the > distinction in mind. It is interpreted

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Encoder AEDR-8300 Encoder Ring

2018-11-29 Thread Chris Albertson
hanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Encoder AEDR-8300 Encoder Ring > > > > The effective pulse width is always zero if you look at the leading edge. > > Pulse length does not matter. > > > > If you care about being th

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Encoder AEDR-8300 Encoder Ring

2018-11-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 29 November 2018 13:59:51 Chris Albertson wrote: > I bought a few inductive sensors on eBay. These are surprisingly > repeatable and very precise. They are cheap and easy to use. THe come > in different diameters. The one I like best has M12x1 threads on the > body. > > Here is an

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Encoder AEDR-8300 Encoder Ring

2018-11-29 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Thu, 29 Nov 2018, Chris Albertson wrote: Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 11:47:23 -0800 From: Chris Albertson Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Encoder AEDR-8300 Encoder Ring The e

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Encoder AEDR-8300 Encoder Ring

2018-11-29 Thread Chris Albertson
ate: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 12:13:25 -0500 > > From: David Berndt > > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net, Peter Blodow > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Encoder AEDR-8300 Encoder Ring > > >

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Encoder AEDR-8300 Encoder Ring

2018-11-29 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Thu, 29 Nov 2018, David Berndt wrote: Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 12:13:25 -0500 From: David Berndt Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net, Peter Blodow Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Encoder AEDR-8300 Encoder Ring Ok, thanks guy

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Encoder AEDR-8300 Encoder Ring

2018-11-29 Thread Chris Albertson
I bought a few inductive sensors on eBay. These are surprisingly repeatable and very precise. They are cheap and easy to use. THe come in different diameters. The one I like best has M12x1 threads on the body. Here is an example:

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Encoder AEDR-8300 Encoder Ring

2018-11-29 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 29 Nov 2018 at 17:16, David Berndt wrote: Ok, thanks guys. I'll go with a seperate encoder to pickup a once per > rotation count. Are there any requirements about on/off span in relation > to A/B. > No, any once-per-rev pulse will do. As has been mentioned, unless you want to do

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Encoder AEDR-8300 Encoder Ring

2018-11-29 Thread David Berndt
Ok, thanks guys. I'll go with a seperate encoder to pickup a once per rotation count. Are there any requirements about on/off span in relation to A/B. The "centering" of the index pulse sounds like it could be a bit fiddly, and getting the pulse perfect would probably be difficult as well,

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Encoder AEDR-8300 Encoder Ring

2018-11-29 Thread Jon Elson
On 11/28/2018 11:52 PM, David Berndt wrote: Alright, Dragging this back up. A knockoff Omron encoder showed up in the mail, well I assume It's a knockoff at this price. Mounted it, wired it up. But it's on the back of the mill and geared 68/55 to the actual spindle output. This sounds like

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Encoder AEDR-8300 Encoder Ring

2018-11-29 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 29 Nov 2018 at 05:55, David Berndt wrote: > > So now the question is, what do I setup scaling to? Yes, scale for exactly one revolution of the actual spindle and arrange a real once-per-rev pulse for a separate index. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Encoder AEDR-8300 Encoder Ring

2018-11-29 Thread Peter Blodow
Hello David, how did this funny gear ratio come to be? Assuming it's tooth gears or a belt drive, can't you change it to 55/55 or 68/68 or some other 1/1 ratio, which would solve this problem? Years ago, I made drawers full of gears for cases like this, letting my little mill make gears for

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Encoder AEDR-8300 Encoder Ring

2018-11-28 Thread David Berndt
Alright, Dragging this back up. A knockoff Omron encoder showed up in the mail, well I assume It's a knockoff at this price. Mounted it, wired it up. But it's on the back of the mill and geared 68/55 to the actual spindle output. So now the question is, what do I setup scaling to? Set

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Encoder AEDR-8300 Encoder Ring

2018-11-01 Thread David Berndt
I actually tried this technique previously using the ats675s but I couldn't get a satisfactory quadrature output, my gear teeth produced more like a 25-30% on time and 70% off, so clocking the two sensors for real quadrature was problematic and didn't really provide the result I was

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Encoder AEDR-8300 Encoder Ring

2018-11-01 Thread Jon Elson
On 11/01/2018 03:09 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: You don't want to block the hole in the spindle so you are looking for an encoder with a large hole though it?Is that right? If the spindle is belt or gear driven you could place the sensor on the gear or pulley that drives the spindle. You

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Encoder AEDR-8300 Encoder Ring

2018-11-01 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 14:34:38 + andy pugh wrote: > On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 at 08:11, Chris Albertson > wrote: > > > > You don't want to block the hole in the spindle so you are looking for an > > encoder with a large hole though it?Is that right? > > Something which I think ought to work is

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Encoder AEDR-8300 Encoder Ring

2018-11-01 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 at 08:11, Chris Albertson wrote: > > You don't want to block the hole in the spindle so you are looking for an > encoder with a large hole though it?Is that right? Something which I think ought to work is a crank position sensor set. The rotors look like this, with a

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Encoder AEDR-8300 Encoder Ring

2018-11-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 01 November 2018 04:09:36 Chris Albertson wrote: > You don't want to block the hole in the spindle so you are looking for > an encoder with a large hole though it?Is that right? > > If the spindle is belt or gear driven you could place the sensor on > the gear or pulley that

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Encoder AEDR-8300 Encoder Ring

2018-11-01 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 at 03:31, David Berndt wrote: > That doesn't sound particularly hopeful for me and my plans. I guess maybe > a more traditional/proven approach of a through-beam sensor with > interrupting disk and much much lower resolution encoder ring with > drilled/milled holes might be

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Encoder AEDR-8300 Encoder Ring

2018-11-01 Thread Chris Albertson
You don't want to block the hole in the spindle so you are looking for an encoder with a large hole though it?Is that right? If the spindle is belt or gear driven you could place the sensor on the gear or pulley that drives the spindle. You could also place a timing belt puley on the

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Encoder AEDR-8300 Encoder Ring

2018-10-31 Thread David Berndt
Thanks Andy, That doesn't sound particularly hopeful for me and my plans. I guess maybe a more traditional/proven approach of a through-beam sensor with interrupting disk and much much lower resolution encoder ring with drilled/milled holes might be the way to go. But to make sure this

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Encoder AEDR-8300 Encoder Ring

2018-10-31 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 at 19:00, David Berndt wrote: > if so was it with one of the one channel output units > instead of 2 channels or how did you handle creating such a fine pattern? > Any other details about how it was done and how well or not well it works I used a 2 channel. I ended up having

[Emc-users] Spindle Encoder AEDR-8300 Encoder Ring

2018-10-31 Thread David Berndt
Hi EMC folks and more specifically Andy Pugh, I was hoping you could let me know which of the AEDR line you used and how fine a pattern you put on your encoder wheel on one of your lathes. It seems the reasonable options are the 36 LPI or 75LPI models, but I suspect you did less? if so was