Re: [Emc-users] Tormach co-founder, Greg Jackson, obituary
Here it is ... you are right he was tethered and had a life jacket on... but they were in 8 foot waves! I had no idea that the water was that rough. That would be a very rough ride at the bow.So he was likely being pushed into the waves, while hanging from the tether and it would be easy to take in a lot of water. That's just a really bad situation. From the pictures it looks like his roller furler may have jammed as someone pulled down the headsail instead of furling the sail on the roller furler. http://fox6now.com/2015/07/15/racine-fire-officials-elderly-man-found-unresponsive-on-sailboat-on-lake-michigan-taken-to-the-hospital/ A couple of years ago two guys died trying to move a 35+ foot sailboat from one marina to another in 9-10 ft waves in Chicago. One guy went over the side and another went in trying to save the first and they both died. Dave On 7/23/2015 2:07 PM, Ron Ginger wrote: Not to drag this into the morbid, but I think I read somewhere that he did have a tether. My guess is he went overboard and the tether dragged him along, maybe hitting the side of the moving boat, until his partner realized he was no longer on the bow. The conditions were described as strong winds. Even if he had the jib down the main would still be driving the boat along at a good speed. This is a tough call- without a tether his boat could have been a long way away before he was missed, with a tether he could have been beaten against the boat or dragged through seas. I hope more details of this emerge in the sailing press, I would like to know the real facts of what happened, we could learn from it. I wonder how his partner got him aboard the boat alone. If you have ever tried to bring a person on board, one fully alert and helping, it is real hard to do. Yes, all very sad, and sobering to those of us that often boat alone. ron ginger On 7/23/2015 10:19 AM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: I sail solo oftentimes and tie into the boat via lifelines when I do so just in case I lose my footing and start to go overboard. There is no sight worse than watching your boat sail away without you when you are far offshore. At night it is common practice to tie in via lifelines even if there are other crew on the boat since it is difficult to find someone in the dark and a boat moving at only a couple of miles an hour quickly moves away from the man overboard. Obviously he loved sailing and he had a beautiful boat. But 62 is way too early to go. :-( I think I will check my lifelines a second time the next time I go out. Dave -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Tormach co-founder, Greg Jackson, obituary
Not to drag this into the morbid, but I think I read somewhere that he did have a tether. My guess is he went overboard and the tether dragged him along, maybe hitting the side of the moving boat, until his partner realized he was no longer on the bow. The conditions were described as strong winds. Even if he had the jib down the main would still be driving the boat along at a good speed. This is a tough call- without a tether his boat could have been a long way away before he was missed, with a tether he could have been beaten against the boat or dragged through seas. I hope more details of this emerge in the sailing press, I would like to know the real facts of what happened, we could learn from it. I wonder how his partner got him aboard the boat alone. If you have ever tried to bring a person on board, one fully alert and helping, it is real hard to do. Yes, all very sad, and sobering to those of us that often boat alone. ron ginger On 7/23/2015 10:19 AM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: I sail solo oftentimes and tie into the boat via lifelines when I do so just in case I lose my footing and start to go overboard. There is no sight worse than watching your boat sail away without you when you are far offshore. At night it is common practice to tie in via lifelines even if there are other crew on the boat since it is difficult to find someone in the dark and a boat moving at only a couple of miles an hour quickly moves away from the man overboard. Obviously he loved sailing and he had a beautiful boat. But 62 is way too early to go. :-( I think I will check my lifelines a second time the next time I go out. Dave -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Tormach co-founder, Greg Jackson, obituary
On 22 July 2015 at 16:34, Dave Cole linuxcncro...@gmail.com wrote: At night it is common practice to tie in via lifelines even if there are other crew on the boat since it is difficult to find someone in the dark And other crew are only any help if they know how to do a MOB recovery. I used to resent the MOB drills when I was learning to sail, but now I have come to actually almost enjoy them. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Tormach co-founder, Greg Jackson, obituary
On 7/22/2015 12:28 PM, andy pugh wrote: On 22 July 2015 at 16:34, Dave Cole linuxcncro...@gmail.com wrote: At night it is common practice to tie in via lifelines even if there are other crew on the boat since it is difficult to find someone in the dark And other crew are only any help if they know how to do a MOB recovery. I used to resent the MOB drills when I was learning to sail, but now I have come to actually almost enjoy them. Very true.Safety drills are a really good idea. Dave --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Tormach co-founder, Greg Jackson, obituary
Sorry about the subject line, the auto-correct on my phone snuck up on me, corrected mis-spelling above. Loss of a founder can sometimes be the demise of a small company. It is good to hear that Greg Jackson did what was needed to allow Tormach to continue into the future. -Tom On Jul 22, 2015, at 6:50 AM, sam sokolik sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: sounds like they are in good hands http://www.tormach.com/blog/greg-jackson-1952-2015/?utm_source=blogutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=postnotifyutm_id=6073utm_title=Greg+Jackson%2C+1952-2015 sam On 07/21/2015 09:35 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 21 July 2015 22:19:12 Tom Easterday wrote: http://www.cressfuneralservice.com/obituary/138699/Greg-Jackson//?post _id=3D= Thanks Tom. I hope Tormach can stay the course he plotted for all these years. I feel like we have lost a benefactor who looked out for the overall good. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- Don't Limit Your Business. Reach for the Cloud. GigeNET's Cloud Solutions provide you with the tools and support that you need to offload your IT needs and focus on growing your business. Configured For All Businesses. Start Your Cloud Today. https://www.gigenetcloud.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Don't Limit Your Business. Reach for the Cloud. GigeNET's Cloud Solutions provide you with the tools and support that you need to offload your IT needs and focus on growing your business. Configured For All Businesses. Start Your Cloud Today. https://www.gigenetcloud.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Tormach co-founder, Greg Jackson, obituary
http://journaltimes.com/news/local/lake-michigan-drowning-tragic-accident/article_d2aa217d-cd0e-5e4f-aa7b-18615469fe1e.html That is sad. As a fellow sailor on the Great Lakes, it is easy to see how this could happen at night when he was going to the bow of the boat to tend a sail. I wonder if he left off his PFD/life jacket since he had a friend on the boat?Or perhaps he simply hit his head as he went overboard. That said, sailing at night is really, really nice. I sail solo oftentimes and tie into the boat via lifelines when I do so just in case I lose my footing and start to go overboard. There is no sight worse than watching your boat sail away without you when you are far offshore. At night it is common practice to tie in via lifelines even if there are other crew on the boat since it is difficult to find someone in the dark and a boat moving at only a couple of miles an hour quickly moves away from the man overboard. Obviously he loved sailing and he had a beautiful boat. But 62 is way too early to go. :-( I think I will check my lifelines a second time the next time I go out. Dave On 7/22/2015 6:50 AM, sam sokolik wrote: sounds like they are in good hands http://www.tormach.com/blog/greg-jackson-1952-2015/?utm_source=blogutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=postnotifyutm_id=6073utm_title=Greg+Jackson%2C+1952-2015 sam On 07/21/2015 09:35 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 21 July 2015 22:19:12 Tom Easterday wrote: http://www.cressfuneralservice.com/obituary/138699/Greg-Jackson//?post _id=3D= Thanks Tom. I hope Tormach can stay the course he plotted for all these years. I feel like we have lost a benefactor who looked out for the overall good. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- Don't Limit Your Business. Reach for the Cloud. GigeNET's Cloud Solutions provide you with the tools and support that you need to offload your IT needs and focus on growing your business. Configured For All Businesses. Start Your Cloud Today. https://www.gigenetcloud.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
