Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-26 Thread Thaddeus Waldner
a shame they don’t do CAM. Thaddeus Waldner Newdale School Elkton, SD 57026 From: Gene Heskett Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 12:16 AM To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360 On Monday 25 March 2019 21:51:03 Chris Albertson wrote

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 25 March 2019 21:51:03 Chris Albertson wrote: > A lot of people like OnShape. > https://www.onshape.com Impressive, much moreso than watching freecad video's. Looks like it has canned constructs and built in error checking. Neat even. That looks like I might be able to learn to use

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-25 Thread Greg Bernard
A lot of people like OnShape. But it has no CAM On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 8:54 PM Chris Albertson wrote: > A lot of people like OnShape. > https://www.onshape.com > > It is web-based 3D CAD that has features comparable to Fusion 360 and > SolidWorks. I've seen it used to > make some complex

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-25 Thread Chris Albertson
A lot of people like OnShape. https://www.onshape.com It is web-based 3D CAD that has features comparable to Fusion 360 and SolidWorks. I've seen it used to make some complex parts. Right now I'm looking at some one's 1/4 scale working model if a Mars Rover It has 6 powered wheels, four that

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-25 Thread Sam Sokolik
I have been getting into fusion for a while now... Slowly. I was corrupted with acad 12 and it is hard for me to go full parametric... ;) So it is really the only windows based application that I run anymore. It runs ok in a virtual machine - if the file isn't too big. I finally drank the

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Greg Bernard
Basically, it says if you download their 2019 Draftsight version, you will no longer be able to use any older version, and all free versions will cease to work after 12/31/2019. They are not clear on what happens with Mac and Linux versions, but it doesn't sound good. I was all excited to hear

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/23/2019 11:52 AM, Greg Bernard wrote: Now that I'm retired and no longer have access to Autocad I'm using Draftsight for all of my 2d work which is practically indistinguishable from Autocad with the advantage of being free and running on Linux. Wow, you need to read this web page :

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Lester Caine
On 23/03/2019 15:26, Gene Heskett wrote: Luverly. Good thing I'm not a job shop. One thing nice about LCNC, clicking on that connectors first move in the backplot, highlights the code line, making it easy to see where in a mass of code, that connector exists. If its nothing but the hole size, a

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Bruce Layne
On 3/23/19 12:52 PM, Greg Bernard wrote: > As an Autocad user for 25 years, I can say the issue of file formats not > being backward compatible is really not a significant problem. All Autocad > versions have the option of saving the file in an older .dwg or .dxf > format. There may be some

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Chris Albertson
On Sat, Mar 23, 2019 at 10:56 AM Gene Heskett wrote: > > I've downloaded that latest freecad-0.17, but its 64 bit and this is a 32 > bit install, so the best thing I might try is to go fire up a rock64, > which is stretch on arm64 with 4 gb of dram, 60 GB of SSD and see how it > works there. >

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Chris Albertson
On Sat, Mar 23, 2019 at 1:13 AM wrote: > I am still using Inventor 2011. Yes; it took a while to get to grips > with it, but it's very capable. I have 2014 but have never installed > it (always seem to be waiting for a newer computer). Inventor has > become Fusion 360 now, so there seems little

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 23 March 2019 12:03:19 Les Newell wrote: > With CAM you need to develop a different mind set. You are now > programming with your drawing and CAM setup, not G-code. The G-code > the becomes purely a way for the CAM to talk to your machine. It > doesn't matter if you have 10 lines or

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Greg Bernard
As an Autocad user for 25 years, I can say the issue of file formats not being backward compatible is really not a significant problem. All Autocad versions have the option of saving the file in an older .dwg or .dxf format. There may be some minor problems with formatting of dimensions, etc. but

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Les Newell
With CAM you need to develop a different mind set. You are now programming with your drawing and CAM setup, not G-code. The G-code the becomes purely a way for the CAM to talk to your machine. It doesn't matter if you have 10 lines or 1 lines. You can in theory do your drawings by directly

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 at 14:58, Tom Easterday wrote: > Yes, the no, low cost license could change (though Autodesk has repeatedly > said it won’t) and you’d have a lot of work into > Fusion which you’d have to convert, but this is true with any package. > Alibre/Geomagic was on the brink of

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 23 March 2019 10:12:53 Lester Caine wrote: > On 23/03/2019 13:59, Gene Heskett wrote: > > How are you getting the gcode? Its not yet listed as an export > > option. > > The path workdesk has a process much like sorting out paths on > Vcarve/Cut2D once you have set up a job to build

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Tom Easterday
I have been running Fusion 360 for several years now. Before that I used Alibre Design/Geomagic (I still own but rarely use Alibre). I have hundreds of models, drawings and complex assemblies in Fusion 360. I have used SolidWorks as well as a couple other CAD packages in years past. Fusion

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Lester Caine
On 23/03/2019 13:59, Gene Heskett wrote: How are you getting the gcode? Its not yet listed as an export option. The path workdesk has a process much like sorting out paths on Vcarve/Cut2D once you have set up a job to build and sorted out cutters. But while I know one can select and view each

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 23 March 2019 04:21:22 Lester Caine wrote: > On 23/03/2019 02:56, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 22 March 2019 18:52:54 Lester Caine wrote: > >> On 22/03/2019 22:46, Bruce Layne wrote: > >>> I use FreeCAD, mostly for 3D printing.  It's still not ready for > >>> prime time and

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Jeff Johnson
The free cad cam options just don't seem to work for us, Clunky is what comes to mind plus no ability to handle other formats. I do admire the people that can Live in that realm. I have a crew of 10-12 guy's and getting everyone on the same page is tough as they all have opinions. Retro-fitted 4

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 at 08:13, wrote: > I am still using Inventor 2011. Yes; it took a while to get to grips > with it, but it's very capable. I have 2014 but have never installed > it (always seem to be waiting for a newer computer). Inventor has > become Fusion 360 now, so there seems little

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 at 22:48, Bruce Layne wrote: > If there was no FreeCAD, I'd use OpenSCAD long before I'd use Fusion > 360. Free Open Source Software for the win. I admire your principles, and agree in theory. But I already know Inventor and Fusion and know that they can do what I need,

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread Lester Caine
On 23/03/2019 02:56, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 22 March 2019 18:52:54 Lester Caine wrote: On 22/03/2019 22:46, Bruce Layne wrote: I use FreeCAD, mostly for 3D printing.  It's still not ready for prime time and doesn't have a usable CAM system so it's not a possible replacement for Fusion

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-23 Thread marcus . bowman
I am still using Inventor 2011. Yes; it took a while to get to grips with it, but it's very capable. I have 2014 but have never installed it (always seem to be waiting for a newer computer). Inventor has become Fusion 360 now, so there seems little point in upgrading Inventor itself. There is no

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 22 March 2019 18:52:54 Lester Caine wrote: > On 22/03/2019 22:46, Bruce Layne wrote: > > I use FreeCAD, mostly for 3D printing.  It's still not ready for > > prime time and doesn't have a usable CAM system so it's not a > > possible replacement for Fusion 360, but it's a viable CAD

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 22 March 2019 18:46:41 Bruce Layne wrote: > Being an unrepentant capitalist, I must admit that commercial software > has much to recommend it.  There is money to pay programmers to > develop stable and feature rich software, and market forces keep the > product customer focused so the

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-22 Thread Dave Matthews
On Fri, Mar 22, 2019, 22:32 Jon Elson wrote: > On 03/22/2019 04:14 PM, Jeff Johnson wrote: > > Anyone on here have opinions on Fusion 360 Cad/Cam by Autodesk? > > > > > We just got set up with Autocad Inventor at work. While > very capable, and it has lots of good CAM strategies, it is > SO

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-22 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/22/2019 05:46 PM, Bruce Layne wrote: AutoDesk had done that to me before. They sold me on AutoSketch which, as an electrical engineer was all of the mechanical CAD software I'd need. Then they discontinued AutoSketch at the moment that I learned enough to be productive and

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-22 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/22/2019 07:42 PM, Lester Caine wrote: On 22/03/2019 23:28, Bruce Layne wrote: I'm still running FreeCAD 0.16, which is over a year old 0.18 is available but not released formally and has some VERY useful additions, I tried 0.18 (I think) maybe too soon after release, and while the CAD

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-22 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/22/2019 04:14 PM, Jeff Johnson wrote: Anyone on here have opinions on Fusion 360 Cad/Cam by Autodesk? We just got set up with Autocad Inventor at work. While very capable, and it has lots of good CAM strategies, it is SO COMPLICATED! We have one guy here who got good with it, so I

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-22 Thread Lester Caine
On 22/03/2019 23:28, Bruce Layne wrote: I'm still running FreeCAD 0.16, which is over a year old 0.18 is available but not released formally and has some VERY useful additions, but 0.17 has been about for nearly a year and it's Path workbench has everything I had on Cut2D plus some ... It's

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-22 Thread Bruce Layne
On 3/22/19 6:52 PM, Lester Caine wrote: > On 22/03/2019 22:46, Bruce Layne wrote: >> I use FreeCAD, mostly for 3D printing.  It's still not ready for prime >> time and doesn't have a usable CAM system so it's not a possible >> replacement for Fusion 360, but it's a viable CAD option for me when

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-22 Thread Lester Caine
On 22/03/2019 22:46, Bruce Layne wrote: I use FreeCAD, mostly for 3D printing.  It's still not ready for prime time and doesn't have a usable CAM system so it's not a possible replacement for Fusion 360, but it's a viable CAD option for me when Fusion 360 isn't. Sorry I have to disagree with

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-22 Thread Bruce Layne
Being an unrepentant capitalist, I must admit that commercial software has much to recommend it.  There is money to pay programmers to develop stable and feature rich software, and market forces keep the product customer focused so the market gets the features that customers want.  When Fusion

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-22 Thread Greg Bernard
I've been using Fusion for almost a year, choosing it over others primarily because it's free to hobbyists and small commercial users. It is easier to learn than other packages I've tried and has given me good results for 3d modeling. As of yet I've not used the CAM portion of the software,

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-22 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 at 21:35, Jeff Johnson wrote: > Anyone on here have opinions on Fusion 360 Cad/Cam by Autodesk? I use it a fair bit. I actually have an Inventor license, but find myself using Fusion for a lot of stuff to save booting the Mac into the Windows VM. (Also the native Fusion is a

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-22 Thread Dave Cole
I work with a shop that does a lot of waterjet, laser, 4 axis mill, and some lathe work and they are using Fusion 360 for their 4 axis mill and lathe they are very happy with it. I've used Fusion 360 to drive a LinuxCNC lathe and it worked fine. It seems like things are moving to the cloud, but

Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360

2019-03-22 Thread John Dammeyer
I've stayed with AlibreCAD and AlibreCAM through thick and thin. For a while it was MecSoft's CAM but now that Alibre has re-integrated I like that the two applications are linked. I can tweak a drawing. Adjust the CAM. There are probably down sides but I don't know them. During the