Re: [Emc-users] converting from mm to inches

2016-10-18 Thread hubert
The solution I am using is put G20 in RS274NGC_STARTUP_CODE of the original ini file. Then each time I startup, I select inch in view. Much easier than recomputing all the velocity and acceleration values. On my other mill's I had always used Stepconf and selected Inches. This is the first

[Emc-users] New stepper-servo

2016-10-18 Thread Danny Miller
A friend showed me this today, not powered up yet: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tropicallabs/mechaduino-powerful-open-source-industrial-servo-m At first I was confused, it says it's a stepper, but with an encoder, and lowers or disables drive current when not needed. Or you can

Re: [Emc-users] Need recommendation on encoder cable --> Ethernet cable?

2016-10-18 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 17.10.16 10:45, Chris Albertson wrote: > As for oil resistance, Buy the "plenum" type. They use teflon insolation > and don't cost that much more.These are sold because of fire codes in > some kinds of buildings, they don't create toxic smoke in a fire. Silicone insulation, perhaps? After

Re: [Emc-users] converting from mm to inches

2016-10-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 October 2016 at 04:05, hubert wrote: > My machine was initially setup by my vendor to mm. Personally I prefer > inches. You can just set the GUI to display inches and issue a G20 (?) command and the machine will be, effectively, an imperial machine. (I am not sure it is

[Emc-users] Ver 2.8

2016-10-18 Thread Greg Bentzinger
Not trying to pester anyone. I am finally getting down to the actual electrical install and beginning to wire things up. So I am going to need HALui and many of the other tools to sort out signals soon. Just wondering if there is any vague idea as to when V2.8 will go mainstream or if I

Re: [Emc-users] Misc implementation questions

2016-10-18 Thread Erik Friesen
Thanks for this info. Has anyone implemented spindle load monitoring per tool like the Haas control? What would this take, adding a line in the tool table plus some tweaks? On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > You can find explanations in the

Re: [Emc-users] converting from mm to inches

2016-10-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 18 October 2016 04:44:00 andy pugh wrote: > On 18 October 2016 at 04:05, hubert wrote: > > My machine was initially setup by my vendor to mm. Personally I > > prefer inches. > > You can just set the GUI to display inches and issue a G20 (?) command > and the machine

Re: [Emc-users] Cycle time discussion

2016-10-18 Thread John Thornton
That depends on you, if you do nothing you get G64 http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/gcode/g-code.html#gcode:g64 If you set G64 P you get something else http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/gcode/g-code.html#gcode:g64 If you set G61 or G61.1 you get something different

Re: [Emc-users] Ver 2.8

2016-10-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 October 2016 at 08:40, Greg Bentzinger wrote: > Just wondering if there is any vague idea as to when V2.8 will go mainstream > or if I should just work with 2.7.x for now. I would build on the current 2.8 dev version. It will save trouble converting the config in the

Re: [Emc-users] Ver 2.8

2016-10-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 18 October 2016 08:04:13 andy pugh wrote: > On 18 October 2016 at 08:40, Greg Bentzinger wrote: > > Just wondering if there is any vague idea as to when V2.8 will go > > mainstream or if I should just work with 2.7.x for now. > > I would build on the current 2.8

Re: [Emc-users] Ver 2.8

2016-10-18 Thread Todd Zuercher
I am more of the opinion, that if you don't need the features in the unreleased version, stick with the stable released one. (my vote for 2.7) - Original Message - From: "andy pugh" To: "Greg Bentzinger" , "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"

[Emc-users] Cycle time discussion

2016-10-18 Thread Erik Friesen
I have been watching my vintage 1996 haas, and have begun to notice all the non cutting times, pauses, etc. It really seems that non rapid, between rapid, and other slow motions are overlooked time costs. Note the non machining pauses on this DM-1

Re: [Emc-users] Misc implementation questions

2016-10-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 18 October 2016 08:41:41 Erik Friesen wrote: > Thanks for this info. > > Has anyone implemented spindle load monitoring per tool like the Haas > control? What would this take, adding a line in the tool table plus > some tweaks? I occasionally put a halmeter on the pid.s.error but

Re: [Emc-users] Cycle time discussion

2016-10-18 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
There seems to be small disreptancy in manual for at least 2.6: G61 - exact path mode. G61 visits the programmed point exactly, even though that means temporarily coming to a complete stop. G61.1 - exact stop mode. Same as G61 G61 do not need to stop although it might happen because

Re: [Emc-users] Need recommendation on encoder cable --> Ethernet cable?

2016-10-18 Thread Chris Albertson
Looked like teflon to me. Here is the real answer "Plenum cable is jacketed with a fire-retardant plastic jacket of either a low-smoke polyvinyl chloride (PVC) or a fluorinated ethylene polymer (FEP

Re: [Emc-users] Need recommendation on encoder cable --> Ethernet cable?

2016-10-18 Thread rayj
Greetings Prezemek, I suspect I have been using the ends for solid wire on stranded wire!! Do you know where I can get a quick education on which is which and how to tell the difference? TIA, Raymond Julian Kettle River, MN The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness,

Re: [Emc-users] Cycle time discussion

2016-10-18 Thread Todd Zuercher
Yes, a quick test seems to show that for co-linear points G61 doesn't stop but G61.1 does. Maybe the docs should be adjusted to reflect that. - Original Message - From: "John Thornton" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent:

Re: [Emc-users] Cycle time discussion

2016-10-18 Thread John Thornton
Looks like G61.1 stops at every end point and G61 only visits each end point but may stop if needed. Could also be incorrect descriptions of them... JT On 10/18/2016 9:17 AM, Todd Zuercher wrote: > Stupid question, why do we even have a G61.1 mode? Is it in anyway different > from plain G61?

Re: [Emc-users] Cycle time discussion (exact endpoint)

2016-10-18 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
> Looks like G61.1 stops at every end point and G61 only visits each end > point but may stop if needed. Could also be incorrect descriptions of > them... The problem is if path should be followed exactly and end point visited exactly it need to slow down to a stop. The reason is otherwise

Re: [Emc-users] Ver 2.8

2016-10-18 Thread Todd Zuercher
On a personal machine the bleeding edge is fine, and I'd probably use it myself at home. But for a factory machine that the drones will use, it is a whole different story. - Original Message - From: "Gene Heskett" To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent:

Re: [Emc-users] Cycle time discussion

2016-10-18 Thread Todd Zuercher
Stupid question, why do we even have a G61.1 mode? Is it in anyway different from plain G61? - Original Message - From: "John Thornton" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 9:21:29 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [Emc-users] Cycle time discussion

2016-10-18 Thread Robert Ellenberg
The discrepancy is likely because the behavior changed in 2.7. In 2.6 and older, both G61 modes were identical. In 2.7, we added the exact path vs exact stop distinction (since the new TP could do it). On Tue, Oct 18, 2016, 12:15 PM Nicklas Karlsson < nicklas.karlsso...@gmail.com> wrote: > There

[Emc-users] Keystick and xemc

2016-10-18 Thread Erik Friesen
Does anyone know where the source is for Keystick and xemc? I don't see it under linuxcnc-master/src/emc/usr_intf or anywhere else. -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites,

Re: [Emc-users] Keystick and xemc

2016-10-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 October 2016 at 20:30, Erik Friesen wrote: > Does anyone know where the source is for Keystick and xemc? I don't > see it under linuxcnc-master/src/emc/usr_intf or anywhere else. They were removed from Master, but can still be found in older branches:

Re: [Emc-users] Keystick and xemc

2016-10-18 Thread Erik Friesen
Is nml close enough to integrate without breaking compile on master? On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 3:40 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 18 October 2016 at 20:30, Erik Friesen wrote: >> Does anyone know where the source is for Keystick and xemc? I don't >> see it under

Re: [Emc-users] Misc implementation questions

2016-10-18 Thread Rene Hopf
> On 18 Oct 2016, at 15:21, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 18 October 2016 08:41:41 Erik Friesen wrote: > >> Thanks for this info. >> >> Has anyone implemented spindle load monitoring per tool like the Haas >> control? What would this take, adding a line in the tool

Re: [Emc-users] Need recommendation on encoder cable --> Ethernet cable?

2016-10-18 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 12:27 PM, rayj wrote: > > I suspect I have been using the ends for solid wire on stranded wire!! > Do you know where I can get a quick education on which is which and how > to tell the difference? There's no 'standard', but what I've seen is

Re: [Emc-users] Cycle time discussion

2016-10-18 Thread Belli Button
Hey Rob! Just wanted to say thanks... -Original Message- From: Robert Ellenberg [mailto:rwe...@gmail.com] Sent: 18 October 2016 19:29 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Cycle time discussion The discrepancy is likely because the behavior changed in 2.7. In

Re: [Emc-users] Need recommendation on encoder cable --> Ethernet cable?

2016-10-18 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 2:45 PM, Steve Traugott wrote: > ...and for encoder cables, you may want shielded twisted pair (has a foil > layer under the jacket). I've had issues with unshielded twisted pair > picking up motor EMF and adding extra encoder counts. ;-) Very true, but

Re: [Emc-users] Misc implementation questions

2016-10-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 18 October 2016 16:10:45 Rene Hopf wrote: > > On 18 Oct 2016, at 15:21, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Tuesday 18 October 2016 08:41:41 Erik Friesen wrote: > >> Thanks for this info. > >> > >> Has anyone implemented spindle load monitoring per tool like the > >>

Re: [Emc-users] Need recommendation on encoder cable --> Ethernet cable?

2016-10-18 Thread rayj
I dissected one of the cable ends, and the contacts have 2 points in the same plane, so I'm guessing they are for stranded wire. Thats good news for me, since I have typically been shortening and repairing jumpers. I have given the container a close inspection and can't find any thing on it